Germany's a leading industrial economy, Lee. And yet, 65% of their electricity is now coming in from renewables.

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/renewables-generated-a-record-65-percent-of-germany...

Now I don't think you don't believe it can be done, I think you oppose it. I think you want to keep burning fossil fuels and you want to keep polluting. Why?

To get back at the leftards.

"The revamped Franco-German alliance is fracturing thanks to the countries’ differing approaches to climate policy.

The rift between Paris and Berlin was evident ahead of a summit of EU leaders on Thursday and Friday where the bloc's long-term climate strategy is on the agenda, according to unpublished documents reviewed by POLITICO.

Climate policy is dividing countries, with some “vehemently opposed” to having any meaningful discussion on the topic at the summit, according to an EU diplomat.

France is spearheading a group of countries that want the EU to cut emissions to net zero by 2050 — meaning the bloc would absorb as much greenhouse gases as it emits. That’s seen as crucial in reaching the more ambitious goal of the 2015 Paris Agreement, which aims to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees.

But Germany, long at the forefront of pushing greener policies, is now getting cold feet thanks to the economic and political costs."

https://www.politico.eu/article/franco-german-alliance-splinters-over-climate-po...

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:


No. at least one month preferably two.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:



Exactly how will I stop Germany getting to any level they want?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:


Some days eh?

Now that you have said those things. What happens, in Germany the other 51 weeks of the year? Fossil fuel still?  Same applies to SA.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:



Yes petal Hydro can do that. Of course there is not much scope for hydro over much of Australia.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:


Targets are merely that. It is the achievement of targets that are should be newsworthy. tell us when they achieve their target.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:


Yes. Wind, Drought, Floods. Of course it doesn't help Solar in heavy rain events. It doesn't help wind in wind drought conditions.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 9:46pm:



In 20 years times I will have probably popped my clogs.

But you initially insisted China was going well, then Germany. I pointed out that was fallacious.

And then there is that tiny detail people don't want to mention.

While the rest of the world is blathering about their hopes to achieve net zero emissions - we are already there.  Because Australia is a carbon sink.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 10:12pm:



yes. That is why Germany is still mining Lignite the dirtiest coal. And China building more coal fired plants.

"A study by green campaigners CoalSwarm shows 259 gigawatts (GW) of coal-fired capacity under development in China.

This is almost equivalent to the total installed coal power capacity in the U.S. of 266 GW."


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-coal-fired-power-station-buildup-2018-9...

So new plant that nearly matches the total coal fired plant in the USA.


India? "Coal is king in India—and will likely remain so"


https://www.brookings.edu/blog/planetpolicy/2019/03/08/coal-is-king-in-india-and...

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 10:12pm:



That is the reality petal. They are building more coal fired plant. live with it.

And China is not only building coal plant in China but also overseas.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 11:50pm:



Which predictions. The satellite photos of Chinese building new coal plants? St aright from a Green Eco site? Yes. Ican see why you wouldn't want to quote them.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 12:06pm:



No petal. Do you work for deep green?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:


And you didn't rebut it.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:



May do.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:


Well not actually. Solar collectors cost money, wind generators cost money, dams cost money, and sinking wells costs money.

We know Solar and wind are intermittent, therefore not going to provide a sustainable future.

Hydro is good, but as I pointed out the other day the sites for it are few, and they generate great angst because of drowning viable land.

Thermal is interesting. The only thermal I know of was in SA and it was closed because it was not viable. In the US they have had troubles because the hot rocks that underlie the thermal are actually cooling so getting less bang for buck as time goes on. Whereas other systems seem to get more bang for buck with the increasing passage of time.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:


And of course it has nothing to do with the burgeoning renewables sector and their subsidies.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:


That must be why they are building so many more of them.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:


It is not a HUGE political issue in a one party state. And strangely the Chinese in Shangahai have a longer life expectancy than parts of the USA.

"China overtakes U.S. for healthy lifespan: WHO data"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-lifespan/china-overtakes-u-s-for-healt...

"Life expectancy in Shanghai tops 83 years?"

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2017-03/29/content_28726570.htm

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:



yes petal. that must be really really difficult in a one party state. They do have planning laws I assume.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


Sold by the States. And they also have planning laws.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


Yes. No politician in Australia has kids and elderly relatives.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:



We all share what petal? The atmosphere? We don't share Shanghais's atmosphere.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


Ah that balance thing again.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:


I wonder what the balance would be without antibiotics?