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Re: carbon taxes are the best
Reply #390 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm
 
You can't do it, can you, dear? You can't explain your rationale.

Now we know it's not science. You've already admitted CO2 emissions are having some impact on warming.

We know it's not profit. You've just said you're not in the coal industry.

We know it's not health or aesthetics. Smog's not healthy or pretty (unless it's killing off people you don't like).

I wonder if you even consciously know it yourself. You want to oppose the leftards - we get that.

Could it be the jellyfish?
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Reply #391 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:31pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
You can't do it, can you, dear? You can't explain your rationale.


You were the one making stupid claims. People in China apparently illegally building things without approval. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
Now we know it's not science. You've already admitted CO2 emissions are having some impact on warming.


No petal I said all things being equal CO2 would have some impact on warming; but that all things aren't equal. You do like to twist what people say don't you? Or would you like the unvarnished truth - what you say is a lie.

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
We know it's not profit. You've just said you're not in the coal industry.


Ooh a grain of truth among the distortions. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
I wonder if you even consciously know it yourself. You want to oppose the leftards - we get that.


Another one of your "famous" assertions. Wink

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
Could it be the jellyfish?


Do they have an impact on climate? Wink
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Reply #392 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:55am
 
Don't want to say?

Or can't?
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Reply #393 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:10am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:55am:
Don't want to say?

Or can't?


Don't want to say what petal?

You seem to have lost something ad you want me to find it for you?
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Reply #394 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:04pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:55am:
Don't want to say?

Or can't?


Don't want to say what petal?

You seem to have lost something ad you want me to find it for you?


Your viewpoint?

Yes, I see what you mean.

That's a hard one.
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Reply #395 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:16pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:04pm:
Your viewpoint?



On what specifically?

You have gone from -

"You can't explain your rationale." to -

"Don't want to say?" to -

"Your viewpoint?"

You just don't seem to want to enunciate what your questions are all about?

If you can't do that I can't help you. I am not into cryptic. Wink


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Reply #396 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:37pm
 
Taking aside the climate change politics.  It is reality that we as humanity have to transit from carbon based energy generation - the least available energy form in the universe to that of renewable ones.   The issue is about timing, and many major powers in the world believe that we have reached a tipping point, with peak oil and depleting coal resources, against increasing population and pollution. 

And energy is intricately related to the rise and fall of global powers.  Suffice to say, whoever develops economically sound, renewable energy technology for the mass, will infact be prospers for the next 4 to 500 hundred years.   This is why major powers like the West and East are pouring billions of dollars into its development. 

Energy is power. Energy is money.

Imagine if Russia is the first country to develop suitable renewable power technique.  It does not even had to be for everything, just for general civillian use.  That would mean Russia will become energy independent as its own production would meet the needs of its military.  If thats the case then the world order will change. 

Its the same with if China, India does the same.

Now, imagine if Australia is the first one to make a breakthrough.  And we are able to make money off the patents of the technology, and export both energy and expertise.   That would drive an economy and prosperity in a scale that Australia will never seen before.  Perhaps the coming of another world power.   Much better than sticking with digging up coal and sell it for a pittance. 

As the world is a very capitalistic - the most efficient and effective way is through monetary poilices like carbon tax.  to encourage innovation and development.
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Reply #397 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:49pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:37pm:
Now, imagine if Australia is the first one to make a breakthrough.  And we are able to make money off the patents of the technology, and export both energy and expertise.   That would drive an economy and prosperity in a scale that Australia will never seen before.  Perhaps the coming of another world power. 


Or perhaps the greedy bastards would use us a stepping stone. We are a small country population wise after all.

You do see the difference in populations don't you?
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Reply #398 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:16pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:04pm:
Your viewpoint?



On what specifically?

You have gone from -

"You can't explain your rationale." to -

"Don't want to say?" to -

"Your viewpoint?"

You just don't seem to want to enunciate what your questions are all about?

If you can't do that I can't help you. I am not into cryptic. Wink




You really don't want to say now, do you, dear?

Float over, FD. We've got a new one.
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Reply #399 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:48pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
You really don't want to say now, do you, dear?


Seeing as you haven't stated exactly for what you want a "rational" explanation? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
Float over, FD. We've got a new one.



Oh dear the ignorant and the totally bereft. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #400 - May 1st, 2019 at 12:45am
 
lee wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
You really don't want to say now, do you, dear?


Seeing as you haven't stated exactly for what you want a "rational" explanation? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
Float over, FD. We've got a new one.



Oh dear the ignorant and the totally bereft. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Indeed. Ask me who won last year's Jellyfish Awards.
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Reply #401 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:35am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:45am:
lee wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
You really don't want to say now, do you, dear?


Seeing as you haven't stated exactly for what you want a "rational" explanation? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
Float over, FD. We've got a new one.



Oh dear the ignorant and the totally bereft. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Indeed. Ask me who won last year's Jellyfish Awards.

If you have a view point you can be held accountable... we cant have that Karnal Cheesy
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Reply #402 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:24am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:45am:
Ask me who won last year's Jellyfish Awards.



How can I possibly give a rational explanation of that petal? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #403 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:28am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:35am:
If you have a view point you can be held accountable... we cant have that Karnal


That really is stupid. Even for you.

How could I possibly be held accountable for my view on someone's alleged Jellyfish Award?  And all without any link. Grin  Grin Grin;
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Reply #404 - May 2nd, 2019 at 9:48am
 
lee wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:28am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:35am:
If you have a view point you can be held accountable... we cant have that Karnal


That really is stupid. Even for you.

How could I possibly be held accountable for my view on someone's alleged Jellyfish Award?  And all without any link. Grin  Grin Grin;


You're certainly in the running for this year, Lee.

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