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Reply #195 - Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am

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So is it kinda like how the Innocence of Muslims was boring as poo, and thats a pretty good reason why Hollywood would never bother with it?

Hollywood doesn't do 5 minute clips. There is plenty of material to work with, but the response from Muslims to a proper movie compared to their efforts to get Theo Van Gogh would reflect the greater effort to make a proper movie and the greater target audience.

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It must be the point that Islam and muslims are routinely mocked and criticised in the entertainment industry

Hence your long list of examples of movies mocking Muhammad?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam vs freedom Reply #196 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 10:05am freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am: Hence your long list of examples of movies mocking Muhammad? Do movies mocking muslims and Islam in general count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lions Or is your sole criteria exclusively mocking Prophet Muhammad?
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Reply #197 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 9:44pm

Brunei implements stoning to death for gay sex, adultery

Posted 8:22 AM, April 3, 2019, by Associated Press

SINGAPORE (AP) — New Islamic criminal laws that took effect in Brunei on Wednesday, punishing gay sex and adultery by stoning offenders to death, have triggered an outcry from countries, rights groups and celebrities far beyond the tiny Southeast Asian nation’s shores.

It's now the 21st century and muzzies are still doing this kind of thing.

The old joke about islam being a time machine which keeps people in the 7th century, is once again verification that many a true word is spoken in jest.

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Re: Islam vs freedom
Reply #198 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am:

Hence your long list of examples of movies mocking Muhammad?

Do movies mocking muslims and Islam in general count?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lions

Or is your sole criteria exclusively mocking Prophet Muhammad?

I saw Four Lions. Great movie. But it is not mocking Muhammad. I would also accept mocking the Muslim Allah or the Quran, or specifically Islam. But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad.

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Reply #199 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:09pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am:

Hence your long list of examples of movies mocking Muhammad?

Do movies mocking muslims and Islam in general count?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lions

Or is your sole criteria exclusively mocking Prophet Muhammad?

I saw Four Lions. Great movie. But it is not mocking Muhammad. I would also accept mocking the Muslim Allah or the Quran, or specifically Islam. But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad.

Not at all, dear. Just mock the tinted races.

It's not racist. Islam is not a race.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam vs freedom Reply #200 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:17pm freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm: But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad. Actually its very easy FD. For example depicting how islam brainwashed 4 muslims to become bumbling, idiotic psychopathic murderers.
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Reply #201 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 4:05pm

-------aaaaannnndd islam is the brainchild of muhammad, no body else.

Just exactly what sort of individual would preach a doctrine which results in unimaginable human rights atrocities being committed by muslims, with absolutely no conscience what so ever, in fact they whip themselves into an orgazmic euphoria at the thought of perpetrating these atrocities against the unbeliever.

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Reply #202 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 10:34pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm:

But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad.

Actually its very easy FD. For example depicting how islam brainwashed 4 muslims to become bumbling, idiotic psychopathic murderers.

Not just brainwashed them, G, interbred them. How else you you think they became sub-bred retards who squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards?

As FD says, a plausible theory.

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Reply #204 - Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:20am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm:

But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad.

Actually its very easy FD. For example depicting how islam brainwashed 4 muslims to become bumbling, idiotic psychopathic murderers.

I'll give you that one, but there were very few direct references to Islam in Four Lions. They just were brainwashed. I don't recall any explanation of how they got that way.

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Reply #205 - Jul 15^th, 2019 at 11:01am

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:20am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:57pm:

But it is hard to mock Islam without mocking Muhammad.

Actually its very easy FD. For example depicting how islam brainwashed 4 muslims to become bumbling, idiotic psychopathic murderers.

I'll give you that one, but there were very few direct references to Islam in Four Lions. They just were brainwashed. I don't recall any explanation of how they got that way.

FD you are clearly tying yourself up in all sorts of knots to define 'Islam mocking' as narrowly as you can.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: Islam vs freedom Reply #206 - Jul 15^th, 2019 at 5:07pm That's why I started with mocking Muhammad. Otherwise any movie that makes fun of Muslims in any way could be construed as mocking Islam.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam vs freedom Reply #207 - Jul 15^th, 2019 at 5:40pm freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 5:07pm: That's why I started with mocking Muhammad. Otherwise any movie that makes fun of Muslims in any way could be construed as mocking Islam. Kinda like a random list of romantic comedies that happens to have loveable jews could be construed as mocking jews?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: Islam vs freedom Reply #208 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 12:44pm Judaism does not have the dominant religious figurehead that Islam, Christianity and most other religions have. So the religion itself is a tough target for comedy, even if Jews themselves are not.
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Reply #209 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

freediver wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

Judaism does not have the dominant religious figurehead that Islam, Christianity and most other religions have. So the religion itself is a tough target for comedy, even if Jews themselves are not.

It has to be comedy?

Hitler had the whole jew-mocking-through-film thing down-pat, and he didn't use comedy. Which is why I asked if you could imagine that sort of template could/would be repeated today by Hollywood. Your response went from 'me no speaka-da English' to 'its probably too boring'. You went out of your way to avoid acknowledging, even though its obvious to everyone, that jew mocking in the entertainment industry is at least, and probably more taboo than mocking Islam.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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