freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02am:


Epic facepalm.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02am:


Bingo FD - aka 'shifting the goalposts'.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02am:


To your absurdly narrow definition? None. To everyone elses, probably thousands or more.

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Are you suggesting I ought to anticipate the specific manifastation of your slippery evasiveness?

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Am I supposed to start a new thread for every question in an effort to avoid this idiocy?

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You didn't answer the question Gandalf. Which of those youtube clips do you think comes closest to passing for a movie?

Muslim jihadis do not have to pursue every Youtuber, writer, cartoonist who mocks, belittles or dismisses Mohammed, Islam, the Koran and the rest. They just need to target a few, kill them or sue them and let the others watch.  This way self-censorship kicks in pretty effectively.



It is ALWAYS freedom that has to make compromises for Islam. Islam, being a frozen, rigid, petrified creed, will never make a compromise with freedom because it would collapse before our very eyes if it did.  Islam, like all frozen things, is extremely fragile and its violent response to such peripheral trivialities as cartoons, movies and novels is a sure sign of that terrified fragility. Islam has no intellectual depth, no intellectually convincing argument on its side so it responds with violence. Fatwahs - 'let the imam do thee thinking for you" - are the codes for its violent response to every kind of question and reasoning outside its 7th century mindset.

This is what happens when an illiterate man codifies in a 'book' the lives of his fellow illiterates who are then obliged to fetishise that 'book'. Islam is the most startling example of 'mind forged manacles' in our time. Little surprise that so many of them become suicidal.

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:59pm:




Shall we start with the definition of "movie"? (hint - its not a byword for "Hollywood")

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 6:59pm:


Thanks for clarifying FD. And consider it answered - no you would not have any (rational) reason to fear assassination if you "starred in a movie" mocking Muhammad. This includes the most popular form of movie today - youtube/social media productions.

Would you like to shift the goalposts now?

you seem to have a funny understanding of 'evasion' FD.

It seems to be along the lines of "directly and specifically responding to your question".

Oh FD, if you wanted to ask specifically about Hollywood movies, then I will gladly answer.

Oh wait, I already have, repeatedly: Hollywood movie makers embarking on, or acting in a Muhammad mocking film won't have any rational reason to fear assassination either. What they absolutely *SHOULD* fear though is their career in the movie making industry coming to a grinding halt - for exactly the same reason as any Hollywood maker of a judaism-mocking, or just about any non-christian religious mocking film should fear. They will be hounded out of the industry not by jihadists, but by non-muslim PC police (for want of a better term).

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:23pm:


Either FD.

Unlike you, I was not secretly restricting my criteria. When I answer a question about "movie" with no qualifications, thats what I'll talk about - movies in all forms.

Killing Critics

What is the punishment for insulting Islam or Muhammad?

Under Sharia, those who insult Muhammad or Allah are to be executed. So are those who desecrate the Quran or commit other acts of blasphemy. This tradition began with Muhammad, as recorded in the Hadith and by his biographers. There is also a Quranic basis for it.

Quran

Quran (6:93) - "Who can be more wicked than one who invent a lie against Allah?" If the death penalty is prescribed for lesser crime, then it stands to reason that it should be imposed for the most "wicked".

Quran (33:57) - "Verily, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger () Allah has cursed them in this world, and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating torment"

Quran (33:61) - [continues from above] "Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Bloody whiteman the religion of peace has out done itself on this one, if they don't agree with islam well just kill 'em. (so what's new in the depravity in the qur'an?)