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Reply #315 - May 8^th, 2019 at 8:23pm

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.

Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example. Roll Eyes

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Reply #316 - May 8^th, 2019 at 8:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.

Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example. Roll Eyes

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Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.

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Reply #317 - May 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.

Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example. Roll Eyes

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Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.

Not a parallel at all, Soren. Naziism was effectively eliminated as a valid political movement by a world war, where millions were murdered by the Nazis and millions more died trying to stop them. Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world. Islamism is an invalid, violent off-shoot and is not popular with most Muslims at all, despite what your Islamophobia might make you believe. Roll Eyes

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Reply #318 - May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm

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Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #319 - May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

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Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #320 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.

Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example. Roll Eyes

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Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.

Not a parallel at all, Soren. Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world. Roll Eyes

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Reply #321 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:

Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.

Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #322 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:

Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Stupid cant.

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Reply #323 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:30pm

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.

Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.

Not a parallel at all, Soren. Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world. Roll Eyes

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Cheesy

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Unmoored mong, you.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really need to stop projecting, Soren. It just goes to show how unhinged you are from reality. Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, please. The growups want to have a proper adult discussion. Roll Eyes

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Reply #324 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:31pm

Frank wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:

Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Stupid cant.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really need to stop projecting, Soren. It just goes to show how unhinged you are from reality. Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, please. The growups want to have a proper adult discussion. Roll Eyes

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Reply #325 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:33pm

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:

Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.

How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that... Roll Eyes

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Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.

Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians. Roll Eyes

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Reply #326 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:

Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.

How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that... Roll Eyes

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Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.

Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians. Roll Eyes

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Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...

And with a load of help from the US Air Force. Without this precision bombing they'd still be trying to take Mosul.

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Reply #327 - May 8^th, 2019 at 9:58pm

Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side.

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Reply #328 - May 8^th, 2019 at 10:56pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side.

All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.

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Reply #329 - May 8^th, 2019 at 11:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side.

All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.

What do you think is happening now, Bobby? Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists. The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants. Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together. Roll Eyes

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