issuevoter wrote on Sep 25
th, 2017 at 10:22am:
I won't “quoth” you, Raven, but I am sure your post will fall on deaf ears. That is because, in the face of the ugly facts and statistics of Islamic fanaticism, the accusation of Islamophobia is the last resort of so-called, and self-congratulating, liberals.
That liberal train of thought is based on humanism, and due to its ongoing opposition to conservative views, liberalism has had its hands full for more than a century. It was caught off guard when conservative Islam began a string of atrocities in the 1990s, which continue. The liberal point of view suddenly found itself defending Islam on the grounds of multiculturalism, and abhorring Islam's blood lust.
The perception that the Western public is protected from fanatical Islam by our laws, allowed liberals the luxury of pontificating from their long assumed moral high ground. However, the frequency of atrocities by Muzlims in the West caused a shift in public opinion away from the moral assurances of liberalism. To counter this effect liberals, progressives, and humanists have fallen back on the simple expedient of accusing their critics of phobias, or irrational fears. “Islamophobia” was perfectly suited for the media as it has a pseudo-academic tone which liberals have always cultivated. Brian Ross being a perfect example.
You paint a wonderful picture of the west being a chased and virtuous virgin being raped and abused by evil Islam. Shame it is a bit of a fantasy and that the west has been a bit of a slut and whore. The most recent example being the weapons of mass deception and the second Iraq war. Which has as direct consequence the creation of Isis.
The thing that all fundamentalist Religions have in common is that they believe that they are gods chosen and are better than everyone else. Fundamentalist Jews attempt to stone people for working on the Sabbath. Fundamentalist Christians blow up abortion clinics and assassinate doctors who perform abortions. Fundamentalist Muslims will attempt to make Jihad on the west. The west however cannot claim to have clean hands.
Historically
Algeria 1952 war of Independence with France
Iran 1953 U.S. Backed Coup that installed the Shah
Egypt 1956 British French and Israeli forces invade Egypt
Iraq 1990 perceived double standards by Islamic nations as western coalition invades Iraq.
Since the establishment of the United Nations, It is a well established Principle that a nation cannot expand it's borders through war. It does not matter if you are the attacker or the defender territories captured as a result war must be handed back.Unless you are Israel.
The first Iraq war was pursued because Saddam Huessan refused to withdraw from Kuwait. The Arab world points a finger in Israel's direction and wonders when the rules will apply there. The point is one does not need to be a religious fanatic in the Middle East to hold some resentment in relation to actions of western Governments.
Perhaps just as the American Battle Hymn of the republic
Quote:Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Seeks to rally the troops in that God is on their side, the call for Jihad seeks to rally the faithful to a political cause. Either way I am equally fearful of all fundamentalist religions.