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Reply #2295 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 9:10am

freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2018 at 12:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8^th, 2018 at 1:57pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 8^th, 2018 at 6:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

We all notice - even you, thicko-- that what you said is in no way a refutation or denial of what I sad: Islam is the enemy of every Western freedom. That these freedoms have other enemues g as no impiirtance as regards the truth of what I said and what is common knowledge.

You rally against whatever threat you perceive to Western freedoms. To me, Islam is a big threat so I call it. If you think Buddhists or Sikhs are a big threat, you are free to say that.

You will look like the stupid ass you always do but at least it's your call, once again. You make yourself laughable, nobody else.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like your little child has been let out again, Soren. Out with the ad hominem argument rather than making any real sense. Look, you run along back to the playground. I'm sure your Islamophobic friends will appreciate your efforts. Tsk, tsk, it really is quite pointless it seems though, to me. You hate Islam because you fear Muslims. You are an Islamophobe. Run along go and play with your friends. Roll Eyes

Looking at history, being afraid of Islam and hating everything it wants to impose on everyone is the ONLY sane and ethical stance. I can't think of a single positive thing that Islam could ever bring to my life.

Can you, great she-ass?? Would Islam improve your life?? Roll Eyes

tsk, tsk.

So, you're not concerned about Christianity's imposition of what it believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? You're not concerned about what Judaism believes and what it does on others, are you, Soren? To you, it is all about your fear and your consequent hated of Islam and Muslims. Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Christianty has given positive things to the world. Islam has only brought negatives.

In your opinion and well, gosh, we all know how valuable your opinion actually is, don't we, Soren? I mean, I am sure we could sell some of it as ballast in shipping, it's really that useful.

Soren, all religions have provided positive things. They have also provided negative things. In the New World Christianity is believed to have killed over tens of millions of Native Americans under the Spanish Conquistadori. Judaism has killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in their illegally occupied lands. Islam has accounted killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions. They are all guilty of advocating the destruction of non-believers. Time you recognise that rather than just fearing Islam and Muslims.

In Australia, Islam has been responsible for a handful of deaths. Most Australian Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, well assimilated people. They don't like Terrorism any more than you do. They report their fellow Muslims who have succumbed to the disease to the Police and ASIO quite regularly. Time you recognised that and thanked them for being responsible Australians. Of course, you won't because you're an Islamophobe. Tsk, tsk. Such a silly, scared fellow. Roll Eyes

Christian Europe was the incubator of the modern movement to freedom and democracy that is sweeping the world.

Islam on the other hand pretty much destroyed western civilisation. It probably set back the course of human development by about 500 to 1000 years. What had been the centre of western civilisation and the most advanced civilisation on earth for 10000 years is now one of the most backwards places on earth, thanks to Islam.

Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?

Brian would it be fair to say that you are blaming Christianity for the flu in order to make it seem more similar to the Islamic tradition of rape and pillage?

Why do you have a right to criticise Christianity but not Islam?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2296 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

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Reply #2297 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

Both you and he might enjoy the experience. We can't allow enjoyment, now can we? Afterall, he's a head-shrink and they say enjoyment is bad for the Id. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2298 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

Both you and he might enjoy the experience. We can't allow enjoyment, now can we? Afterall, he's a head-shrink and they say enjoyment is bad for the Id. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

No, Brian, I hasten that it would hurt moi much more than the old boy. Still, he must learn manners, no?

Spare the rod and spoil the boy, dear. Every good boy deserves fruit, yes?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2299 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 3:02pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

Both you and he might enjoy the experience. We can't allow enjoyment, now can we? Afterall, he's a head-shrink and they say enjoyment is bad for the Id. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

No, Brian, I hasten that it would hurt moi much more than the old boy. Still, he must learn manners, no?

Spare the rod and spoil the boy, dear. Every good boy deserves fruit, yes?

Herr Dokter, I have been endeavouring to teach the "Old Boy"(tm) manners for years and gotten no where. OK, perhaps we need to try your "rough love" treatment. Go for it! Wink

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2300 - Feb 11^th, 2018 at 3:05pm -----aaaand do it with a straight face as we all know this gem off by heart: Do not laugh too much, for excessive laughter kills the heart [spiritually].
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2301 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:31pm:

How many niqabs and hijabs have been torn off? Give us the stats and also explain why you equate religiously motivated murders with unmasking someone on the street.

Both are religiously motivated, Soren. Both are the same because they misinterpret the messages of their religion to justify their (your) persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2302 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:53pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

Both you and he might enjoy the experience. We can't allow enjoyment, now can we? Afterall, he's a head-shrink and they say enjoyment is bad for the Id. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

No, Brian, I hasten that it would hurt moi much more than the old boy. Still, he must learn manners, no?

Spare the rod and spoil the boy, dear. Every good boy deserves fruit, yes?

Mention arseholes and the Paki Bvgger comes running and slobbering. Must have an auto alert for all the Mardi Gras keywords.

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2303 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 7:34pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 7:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:31pm:

How many niqabs and hijabs have been torn off? Give us the stats and also explain why you equate religiously motivated murders with unmasking someone on the street.

Both are religiously motivated, Soren. Both are the same because they misinterpret the messages of their religion to justify their (your) persecution. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian you appear to be conceding that Islam does indeed inspire Muslims to murder people. That sounds an aweful lot like criticism of Islam. Do you have the right to say these things?

As much as Christianity does, FD. Do you concede that there are Christian Terrorists, inspired by Christianity to murder people?

Or are all Christians innocent of such crimes?

If so, then most Muslims are also innocent of being Terrorists.

Choice is yours... Roll Eyes

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2304 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:22pm Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:53pm: Mention arseholes and the Paki Bvgger comes running and slobbering. Must have an auto alert for all the Mardi Gras keywords. Dog whistle.
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Reply #2305 - Feb 12^th, 2018 at 9:22pm

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 11:18pm:

Oh, goody. Just as I predicted. Tsk, tsk, Freediver, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. No attempt to understand an alternative viewpoint at all. Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

That's enough arseholery from you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Soren's little child has come out to play with the adults. Roll Eyes

Oh, I'd say he deserves a jolly good spanking after lights-out, wouldn't you?

Both you and he might enjoy the experience. We can't allow enjoyment, now can we? Afterall, he's a head-shrink and they say enjoyment is bad for the Id. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

No, Brian, I hasten that it would hurt moi much more than the old boy. Still, he must learn manners, no?

Spare the rod and spoil the boy, dear. Every good boy deserves fruit, yes?

Mention arseholes and the Paki Bvgger comes running and slobbering. Must have an auto alert for all the Mardi Gras keywords.

I can't believe he's still awake. I put 200 mils of Largactil in his drip.

Normally I shelve them, but tonight I want the old boy's arse clean.

Most therapeutic.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51293 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2306 - Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:44pm: issuevoter wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 9:14am: 2010: Pune, India. The German Bakery is bombed by Muzlims killing 16 and injuring 60. Looks in pretty good nick today, to me.
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Reply #2307 - Feb 14^th, 2018 at 12:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

Come on, Brian. Stop obfuscating. I've met you halfway here, I expect you to do the same.

Stop equivocating. FD asked you about the difference between the teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad. Nothing to do with the OT.

Please answer the question.

Why? When he answers my questions, I may deign to answer his, Augie. FD likes to answer questions with questions, rather than answers. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2308 - Feb 14^th, 2018 at 1:09pm

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

Come on, Brian. Stop obfuscating. I've met you halfway here, I expect you to do the same.

Stop equivocating. FD asked you about the difference between the teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad. Nothing to do with the OT.

Please answer the question.

Why? When he answers my questions, I may deign to answer his, Augie. FD likes to answer questions with questions, rather than answers. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

And here's FD answering a question.

Tsk tsk.

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Reply #2309 - Feb 14^th, 2018 at 7:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2018 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2018 at 12:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 10:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

Brian, do you actually think it is just as easy to draw inspiration for violence from the teachings of Jesus as it is from the teachings of Muhammad?

From The Bible? Definitely. The Old Testament is full of inspiration like that. Tsk, tsk. Until Christians repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from The Bible, it will continue to inspire Christian Terrorists... Roll Eyes

Come on, Brian. Stop obfuscating. I've met you halfway here, I expect you to do the same.

Stop equivocating. FD asked you about the difference between the teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad. Nothing to do with the OT.

Please answer the question.

Why? When he answers my questions, I may deign to answer his, Augie. FD likes to answer questions with questions, rather than answers. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian are you suggesting you would be capable of giving a straight answer if someone else asked the question?

Depends on how the questions were word, FD. We have seen plenty of ad hominem insults included in the past. We have seen plenty of stupid questions as well. When I see some intelligent, thoughtful questions, which aren't answering a question, instead of answering the question - like you do - I may deign to answer them. Your choice, FD. Roll Eyes

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