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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #60 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:48am

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Break the cycle gits.

Break the cycle.

Cycle? No wesley there's no cycle. It'd be a cycle if I were to rail against new immigrants. It'd be a cycle if I were to be calling for the removal of asylum seekers. If I were demanding they be forced to speak and write English (it'd be nice if some of you "aussies" learned to speak and write english). If I were to do these and other things, it'd be a cycle.

But I don't. I'm railing against so-called aussies instead.

I say so-called because they're not really aussies. Real aussies are like our neighbours when I was growing up. Ready to give people a fair go. They're like old Joy next door who was as Australian as they come. A country girl and hugely accepting of us and anyone else trying to make a life in this country. She was a real aussie.

Some of the people here aren't. They need to bugger off somewhere else.

What we're you just saying? If you don't like it, feel free to bugger off, or soemthing along those lines wasn't it?
So you gonna take your own advice, or just be a hypocrite?

But I like it here just fine wesley. Where did I say I didn't? Cheesy

That's not the point being made.
The point is that people who have a different opinion to you are entitled to hold and voice that opinion.

Saying people should "bugger off if they don't like it" shows gross intolerance of others and their opinions.

Now being of a people which in years gone by made have been subjected to intolerance from others in Australia makes it even more unacceptable in my mind from those who at least may have the excuse that they never experienced it.

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #61 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

I was going to add my own point but I cannot put it better than this.

"If you don't like it you can f**k off somewhere else" is showing what other than intolerance??

Did you read what I said? Where did I say I was being tolerant? Or wanted to be tolerant?

You would like to live in a society completely intolerant of others' views and with a "like it or leave" attitude would you?

You're not related to Mussolini are you?

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #62 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:57am

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Break the cycle gits.

Break the cycle.

Cycle? No wesley there's no cycle. It'd be a cycle if I were to rail against new immigrants. It'd be a cycle if I were to be calling for the removal of asylum seekers. If I were demanding they be forced to speak and write English (it'd be nice if some of you "aussies" learned to speak and write english). If I were to do these and other things, it'd be a cycle.

But I don't. I'm railing against so-called aussies instead.

I say so-called because they're not really aussies. Real aussies are like our neighbours when I was growing up. Ready to give people a fair go. They're like old Joy next door who was as Australian as they come. A country girl and hugely accepting of us and anyone else trying to make a life in this country. She was a real aussie.

Some of the people here aren't. They need to bugger off somewhere else.

What we're you just saying? If you don't like it, feel free to bugger off, or soemthing along those lines wasn't it?
So you gonna take your own advice, or just be a hypocrite?

But I like it here just fine wesley. Where did I say I didn't? Cheesy

YAAAAAWN..

Australia would be a great place if it weren't for all the australians eh?

Curious as to what makes someone a 'real aussie' though. Let me guess - a "real aussie" is someone who agrees with you?

Close. Australia would be a great place if it weren't for the growing number of bogans. Mind you, bogans are not uniquely "aussie" they can come from anywhere. Cue Andrei...

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #63 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Break the cycle gits.

Break the cycle.

Cycle? No wesley there's no cycle. It'd be a cycle if I were to rail against new immigrants. It'd be a cycle if I were to be calling for the removal of asylum seekers. If I were demanding they be forced to speak and write English (it'd be nice if some of you "aussies" learned to speak and write english). If I were to do these and other things, it'd be a cycle.

But I don't. I'm railing against so-called aussies instead.

I say so-called because they're not really aussies. Real aussies are like our neighbours when I was growing up. Ready to give people a fair go. They're like old Joy next door who was as Australian as they come. A country girl and hugely accepting of us and anyone else trying to make a life in this country. She was a real aussie.

Some of the people here aren't. They need to bugger off somewhere else.

What we're you just saying? If you don't like it, feel free to bugger off, or soemthing along those lines wasn't it?
So you gonna take your own advice, or just be a hypocrite?

But I like it here just fine wesley. Where did I say I didn't? Cheesy

That's not the point being made.
The point is that people who have a different opinion to you are entitled to hold and voice that opinion.

Saying people should "bugger off if they don't like it" shows gross intolerance of others and their opinions.

Now being of a people which in years gone by made have been subjected to intolerance from others in Australia makes it even more unacceptable in my mind from those who at least may have the excuse that they never experienced it.

But I don't give a rats what is or is not acceptable in your mind Andrei. Too bad you don't have the nouse to comprehend this simple point.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Why Should we? Reply #65 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:03pm ... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm: Boganism is the very essence of australia. If you don't like it...........whaddya do? Rub it in your face, of course!
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Why Should we? Reply #66 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:04pm Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:03pm: ... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm: Boganism is the very essence of australia. If you don't like it...........whaddya do? Rub it in your face, of course! Rub what in my face?
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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #67 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:06pm

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Break the cycle gits.

Break the cycle.

Cycle? No wesley there's no cycle. It'd be a cycle if I were to rail against new immigrants. It'd be a cycle if I were to be calling for the removal of asylum seekers. If I were demanding they be forced to speak and write English (it'd be nice if some of you "aussies" learned to speak and write english). If I were to do these and other things, it'd be a cycle.

But I don't. I'm railing against so-called aussies instead.

I say so-called because they're not really aussies. Real aussies are like our neighbours when I was growing up. Ready to give people a fair go. They're like old Joy next door who was as Australian as they come. A country girl and hugely accepting of us and anyone else trying to make a life in this country. She was a real aussie.

Some of the people here aren't. They need to bugger off somewhere else.

What we're you just saying? If you don't like it, feel free to bugger off, or soemthing along those lines wasn't it?
So you gonna take your own advice, or just be a hypocrite?

But I like it here just fine wesley. Where did I say I didn't? Cheesy

That's not the point being made.
The point is that people who have a different opinion to you are entitled to hold and voice that opinion.

Saying people should "bugger off if they don't like it" shows gross intolerance of others and their opinions.

Now being of a people which in years gone by made have been subjected to intolerance from others in Australia makes it even more unacceptable in my mind from those who at least may have the excuse that they never experienced it.

But I don't give a rats what is or is not acceptable in your mind Andrei. Too bad you don't have the nouse to comprehend this simple point.

It's not my mind.
Acceptance of other's opinions and their right to voice them is engrained in the ethos of all open, free, democratic nations.

I would have thought though that as someone who may have suffered from intolerance you would not be inclined to perpetuate the cycle.

Personally despite being of overseas-born parents and having an English accent, I can't say I have suffered any intolerance from Aussies, other than the odd jibes about sport.
However now since we generally belt the Aussies out of sight in rugby and cricket, even that is no longer an issue for me.

As I said, I would expect though better from someone who has suffered intolerance in the past.

It's not my mind - it is accepted common practice in an open society.

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #68 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:19pm

CommonSense wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

This country is becoming a joke...

Where is the logic?

THIS COUNTRY

...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Quote:

Australia has the strongest economy in the developed world and it is expected to outperform all comers for at least the next two years, according to the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF also forecasts Australia's unemployment rate to remain low at 5.2 per cent in both 2012 and 2013.

"With solid growth, low unemployment, contained inflation, strong public finances and a record pipeline of business investment, the Australian economy is the standout performer of the developed world"

i

It's ALL in the GROUNDWORK ...

OECD praise for Canberra's stimulus package

Tim Colebatch
September 17, 2009.

THE Federal Government has won glowing support for its controversial economic stimulus

, with the Western world's leading think tank saying the strategy will save up to 200,000 jobs.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's annual employment outlook says Australia will be one of the Western countries to suffer least in the global financial crisis.

And it says the Government's stimulus has already had a strong effect in cushioning the downturn,

undermining Opposition attacks on the size of the program

.

Its data shows Australia spends just 0.01 per cent of GDP on training its unemployed - the equal lowest in the OECD along with Mexico and the Czech and Slovak republics.

They show

the Howard government cut spending on active labour market programs in its last two years as the skills shortage became more acute.

By contrast, the OECD report singles out the Rudd Government's stimulus measures for praise.

It estimates Australia's stimulus has been the third largest in the Western world at 5.4 per cent of GDP, exceeded only by Korea (6.1) and the US (5.7).

''Even though many countries moved quickly to enact large fiscal stimulus packages, these packages generally have not had a strong effect in cushioning the initial decline in employment caused by the crisis, although

Australia is a notable exception

,'' it says.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/oecd-praise-for-canberras-stimulus-package-200...i

We have MUCH to be PROUD of
... and MUCH to be BLESSED with

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Why Should we? Reply #69 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:21pm ... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:04pm: Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:03pm: ... wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:01pm: Boganism is the very essence of australia. If you don't like it...........whaddya do? Rub it in your face, of course! Rub what in my face? Boganism of course. I bogan the bogans. I am the reverse bogan.
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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #70 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:26pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

CommonSense wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

This country is becoming a joke...

Where is the logic?

THIS COUNTRY

...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Quote:

Australia has the strongest economy in the developed world and it is expected to outperform all comers for at least the next two years, according to the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF also forecasts Australia's unemployment rate to remain low at 5.2 per cent in both 2012 and 2013.

"With solid growth, low unemployment, contained inflation, strong public finances and a record pipeline of business investment, the Australian economy is the standout performer of the developed world"

i

It's ALL in the GROUNDWORK ...

OECD praise for Canberra's stimulus package

Tim Colebatch
September 17, 2009.

THE Federal Government has won glowing support for its controversial economic stimulus

, with the Western world's leading think tank saying the strategy will save up to 200,000 jobs.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's annual employment outlook says Australia will be one of the Western countries to suffer least in the global financial crisis.

And it says the Government's stimulus has already had a strong effect in cushioning the downturn,

undermining Opposition attacks on the size of the program

.

Its data shows Australia spends just 0.01 per cent of GDP on training its unemployed - the equal lowest in the OECD along with Mexico and the Czech and Slovak republics.

They show

the Howard government cut spending on active labour market programs in its last two years as the skills shortage became more acute.

By contrast, the OECD report singles out the Rudd Government's stimulus measures for praise.

It estimates Australia's stimulus has been the third largest in the Western world at 5.4 per cent of GDP, exceeded only by Korea (6.1) and the US (5.7).

''Even though many countries moved quickly to enact large fiscal stimulus packages, these packages generally have not had a strong effect in cushioning the initial decline in employment caused by the crisis, although

Australia is a notable exception

,'' it says.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/oecd-praise-for-canberras-stimulus-package-200...i

We have MUCH to be PROUD of
... and MUCH to be BLESSED with

Ah, actually I said before that nobody ever called me a foreigner.

I take it back - this gentleman is the only guy to ever accuse me of being 'foreign'.

Fortunately the Australian Government, when noting my place of birth, did not feel the same when issuing my passport.

In regards to intolerance of others gist, you have soulmate in the old Queen from the caravan.

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #71 - May 15^th, 2012 at 12:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

CommonSense wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

This country is becoming a joke...

Where is the logic?

THIS COUNTRY

...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Quote:

Australia has the strongest economy in the developed world and it is expected to outperform all comers for at least the next two years, according to the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF also forecasts Australia's unemployment rate to remain low at 5.2 per cent in both 2012 and 2013.

"With solid growth, low unemployment, contained inflation, strong public finances and a record pipeline of business investment, the Australian economy is the standout performer of the developed world"

i

It's ALL in the GROUNDWORK ...

OECD praise for Canberra's stimulus package

Tim Colebatch
September 17, 2009.

THE Federal Government has won glowing support for its controversial economic stimulus

, with the Western world's leading think tank saying the strategy will save up to 200,000 jobs.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's annual employment outlook says Australia will be one of the Western countries to suffer least in the global financial crisis.

And it says the Government's stimulus has already had a strong effect in cushioning the downturn,

undermining Opposition attacks on the size of the program

.

Its data shows Australia spends just 0.01 per cent of GDP on training its unemployed - the equal lowest in the OECD along with Mexico and the Czech and Slovak republics.

They show

the Howard government cut spending on active labour market programs in its last two years as the skills shortage became more acute.

By contrast, the OECD report singles out the Rudd Government's stimulus measures for praise.

It estimates Australia's stimulus has been the third largest in the Western world at 5.4 per cent of GDP, exceeded only by Korea (6.1) and the US (5.7).

''Even though many countries moved quickly to enact large fiscal stimulus packages, these packages generally have not had a strong effect in cushioning the initial decline in employment caused by the crisis, although

Australia is a notable exception

,'' it says.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/oecd-praise-for-canberras-stimulus-package-200...i

We have MUCH to be PROUD of
... and MUCH to be BLESSED with

Ah, actually I said before that nobody ever called me a foreigner.

I take it back - this gentleman is the only guy to ever accuse me of being 'foreign'.

You are FOREIGN by DESIGN
You are AUSTRALIAN by INVOICE ( ... and NQR condom)

You HATE Australia

( ... "SH!T-hole" was your description ?)

You HATE Australians

( ... "common" and "bogan" ?)

Yet you can't live WITHOUT us ?

STILL posting from your La Jollian GATED COMMUNITY

You make a "fine American"

You made a "crap Australian"

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #72 - May 15^th, 2012 at 1:00pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Ah, actually I said before that nobody ever called me a foreigner.

I take it back - this gentleman is the only guy to ever accuse me of being 'foreign'.

Fortunately the Australian Government, when noting my place of birth, did not feel the same when issuing my passport.

In regards to intolerance of others gist, you have soulmate in the old Queen from the caravan.

And pleased I am in that.

Whereas you.. well, you don't actually have an Australian passport, do you nong? And the only thing Australian about you is the money you suck out of this country.

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Re: Why Should we?
Reply #74 - May 15^th, 2012 at 1:06pm

Gist wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Ah, actually I said before that nobody ever called me a foreigner.

I take it back - this gentleman is the only guy to ever accuse me of being 'foreign'.

Fortunately the Australian Government, when noting my place of birth, did not feel the same when issuing my passport.

In regards to intolerance of others gist, you have soulmate in the old Queen from the caravan.

And pleased I am in that.

Whereas you.. well, you don't actually have an Australian passport, do you nong? And the only thing Australian about you is the money you suck out of this country.

You could say the same about your darling blow-ins. But you wouldn't dare, would you?

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