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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #30 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:16pm maybe he should start civil action as well? By all means, let him go for it.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46952 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #31 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:20pm Pell is laughing. Just another Pedo hunt against priests by a Media trying to hide all their own Pedos and Rapists out there.
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #32 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

In the wild west he would have been hanged
after the first trial.

I never thought there was enough evidence -
it was one man's word against another.

but they kept saying that he was a "Credible" witness... Cheesy

how on earth can the victim be a credible witness??

and he changed his story multiple times..

Its like those women who accuse men of rape tha never happened...

"but they seem credible" Cheesy

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #33 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:23pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:22pm: Its like those women who accuse men of rape tha never happened... "but they seem credible" This type of BS was inevitable.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26463 Australia	Re: Pell walks Reply #34 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:31pm i reckon someone else abused the boys and they dont remember properly in fact pell might even know who it was Spot
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46952 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #35 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:41pm Would have been a smorgesboard of little boy bums to be feasted upon by Clergy back in the day. But as Gay sex is now 'ok' and socially acceptable. The Priests did nothing wrong in the end.
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #36 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:31pm:

i reckon someone else abused the boys and they dont remember properly in fact pell might even know who it was

Spot

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Yet, on the assumption that the complainant was a witness to truth, both boys were sitting on a gold-mine.

They had the most explosive media story imaginable one, incidentally, that would quite excuse a sorry life.

They would have been aware of the sexual abuse crisis in which Pell was engulfed and how timely their tale was.

How could they not speak about what happened, if only to discuss going public or whether the other was thinking of going public?

But as it was, the one boy denied abuse at a time when the only other witness who could contradict him was alive, while the other boy affirmed it when the only other witness was conveniently dead
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https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/263614631/credibility-of-george-pell-accuser...

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #37 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:44pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

In the wild west he would have been hanged
after the first trial.

I never thought there was enough evidence -
it was one man's word against another.

but they kept saying that he was a "Credible" witness... Cheesy

how on earth can the victim be a credible witness??

and he changed his story multiple times..

Its like those women who accuse men of rape tha never happened...

"but they seem credible" Cheesy

No, he did not. He was consistent.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #38 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:50pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

In the wild west he would have been hanged
after the first trial.

I never thought there was enough evidence -
it was one man's word against another.

but they kept saying that he was a "Credible" witness... Cheesy

how on earth can the victim be a credible witness??

and he changed his story multiple times..

Its like those women who accuse men of rape tha never happened...

"but they seem credible" Cheesy

No, he did not. He was consistent.

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The complainant initially asserted that the two incidents occurred within a few months of each other in 1996.

It transpired that the first time Pell said mass at St Patrick’s was 15 December, rendering this timeline impossible.

The prosecution then changed its story, stating that the first incident occurred in 1996 and the second in February 1997

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #39 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:56pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:42am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:37am:

For all the difficulties ... I think a jury system where 12 people good and true sit for days hearing evidence and come to a conclusion about guilt or innocence is the best system.

To have a small number of 'overpaid bookworms' overturn the verdict is, in my opinion, a bad result. Sad

Look at the other side of that same coin. How could 12 people good and true come to the guilty decision beyond a reasonable doubt given the totality of the evidence, including what has been described as 'opportunity' evidence? My conclusion is that inadvertently, they allowed a bias against the Institution (which is obviously guilty) to assuage their mind into the guilty verdict against Pell. In other words, "This bastard is guilty of something just like the Church is, so cop this, Pell. You'll do as the sacrificial lamb."

only one boy claimed he was abused by Pell....

yet on is release ... we hear cries of thats not fair to all those children who were abused......

and yes we know there are many... but Pell was only ever charged with this 1.....why does his release affect all those who were abused..???....

because its no different from blaming all Muslims for Terrorism..or all righties for corruption or all Chinese for coronavirus....

he is now responsible for all children abused by the church...

its the court of public opinion at the end of the day he will have to live with..

in my mind he is serving a sentence the Vatican should be serving....

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #40 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 1:22pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

In the wild west he would have been hanged
after the first trial.

I never thought there was enough evidence -
it was one man's word against another.

but they kept saying that he was a "Credible" witness... Cheesy

how on earth can the victim be a credible witness??

and he changed his story multiple times..

Its like those women who accuse men of rape tha never happened...

"but they seem credible" Cheesy

No, he did not. He was consistent.

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The complainant initially asserted that the two incidents occurred within a few months of each other in 1996.

It transpired that the first time Pell said mass at St Patrick’s was 15 December, rendering this timeline impossible.

The prosecution then changed its story, stating that the first incident occurred in 1996 and the second in February 1997

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"Multiple times." Getting a year wrong is hardly noteworthy.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #41 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 1:36pm Forget anyone coming forward with anything now though
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #42 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 1:36pm:

Forget anyone coming forward with anything now though

Well, that will be interesting. They have had the Royal Commission. Pell named. Pell charged...tried many times...ultimately acquitted. Reckon it is time to forget prosecuting Pell. Several shots have been taken. All missed. Move on.

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Reply #43 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:15pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 1:36pm:

Forget anyone coming forward with anything now though

Well, that will be interesting. They have had the Royal Commission. Pell named. Pell charged...tried many times...ultimately acquitted. Reckon it is time to forget prosecuting Pell. Several shots have been taken. All missed. Move on.

Maybe but my point still stands. Its basically a yep, make sure there are no witnesses you'll get away with anything.

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crocodile Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6682 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #44 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:16pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:15am: crocodile wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:12am: John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:13am: nope ... i don't agree. He covered up abuse and should be jailed for it He wasn't charged with that. he should have been Completely irrelevant.
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