Australian Politics Forum

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 146296
Gender: male

Re: Pell walks
Reply #120 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:41pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:19pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:08pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 6:00pm:

So....let's move on to something completely disgusting. The guy is acquitted....found 'not guilty', and then has been stalked by the schmedia pricks, all looking to out him somewhere. Even to the extent of having a helicopter track the car he was in for over an hour. Disgraceful.

Arseholes. The guy is innocent. Far cough schmedia.

He may be innocent in this case.

But he is not innocent of decades of deliberately covering up for paedophile priests, shifting them around & allowing them to continue to molest young children in new locations.

He deserves to be jailed for those actions .... as does anyone of similar stature in the Church who has done the same in the past.

When was he charged and convicted of those crimes?

Did I say he had?

I said he should be

Don't be a f*#kwit.

So how can you say he's guilty?

He was in charge of moving them ... & sometimes same priest more than once because of complaints from parents.

All swept under the carpet.

cease being such a twerp.

This all came out in court, did it?

Piss off law boy.
Shove your court system where the sun don't shine.

No court evidence?

Okay, we can get past that I suppose.

Can you just show your proof, and cite a reference then?

Cheers Wink

Back to top

IP Logged

Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #121 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:41pm Don't feed the troll....
Back to top	IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 146296 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #122 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:43pm Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:41pm: Don't feed the troll.... Ah. You have no proof. You should have just said that in the first place. I accept your white flag graciously. You have a good evening now, okay?
Back to top	IP Logged

Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60338 Here Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #123 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 7:49pm Quote: Pell walks Just as well - I wasn't going to carry him.
Back to top	IP Logged

Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #124 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 8:39pm When was the concept of being 'tried before a jury of your peers' abandoned in the Australian judicicial system? When did Australia adopt the inquisitorial system?
Back to top	IP Logged

Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 9169	Re: Pell walks Reply #125 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:00pm I was listening to the interview with a Shine Laywer and she said that there will be a civil case now, even if against the church itself. I wonder, these past 3 years with this case, how much it was, who pays, and will Pell want compensation since he has now walked free of guilt?
Back to top	IP Logged

Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #126 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:28pm Compensation? He was found guilty by a jury. Is Pell a victim of our justice system?
Back to top	IP Logged

Belgarion

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 5872
Gender: male

Re: Pell walks
Reply #127 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:29pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 5:03pm:

nope ... i don't agree. He covered up abuse and should be jailed for it

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 5:03pm:

Nothing straw man about it. My argument has always been he should be in jail for decades of covering up abuse. I said that from my very first post. You were the one who thinks he being innocent of this charge of kiddy fiddling also means he is innocent of covering up abuse.

He was not on trial for covering up abuse. Please understand how the legal system works before commenting further.

Back to top

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire.....(possibly)

IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 146296 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #128 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:31pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:28pm: Compensation? He was found guilty by a jury. Is Pell a victim of our justice system? He's innocent. Having you been paying attention?
Back to top	IP Logged

cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pell walks Reply #129 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:32pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:28pm: Compensation? He was found guilty by a jury. Is Pell a victim of our justice system? looks like it... he is now innocent...dont tell me you have never heard of them jailing someone who was innocent?..
Back to top	IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: Pell walks
Reply #130 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:37pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:00pm:

I was listening to the interview with a Shine Laywer and she said that there will be a civil case now, even if against the church itself.

I wonder, these past 3 years with this case, how much it was, who pays, and will Pell want compensation since he has now walked free of guilt?

my thoughts are it the Vatican that should be on trial they do in fact owe the world....they have paid many child abuse victims compensation but that isnt the point here is it? Pell is in fact paying the price for every victim in this country even the ones who have seen their perpetrator jailed...are still asking for blood...

he covered up... he was following orders from the Vatican... seems to me the Popes have condoned this and would still be condoning it.. had the poo not hit the fan...... in the mean time a lot of people are saying hes guilty not of sexual abuse but covering up....

so why should the Vatican escape....money means nothing to them after all....one of the richest cities in the world..

Back to top

IP Logged

Mr Hammer

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 25212
Gender: male

Re: Pell walks
Reply #131 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:28pm:

Compensation? He was found guilty by a jury. Is Pell a victim of our justice system?

He's innocent.

Having you been paying attention?

Not guilty according to a roomful of greasy, cashed up lawyers. Guilty according to a jury of his peers. BTW, check your spelling Professor Punctuation.

Back to top

IP Logged

Belgarion

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 5872
Gender: male

Re: Pell walks
Reply #132 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:28pm:

Compensation? He was found guilty by a jury. Is Pell a victim of our justice system?

He's innocent.

Having you been paying attention?

We don't know that, nor do we know if he is guilty. What we do know is that the High Court has found that the prosecution failed to prove the case beyond reasonable doubt and therefore the conviction has been quashed ie: he should never have been found guilty in the first place.

Back to top

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire.....(possibly)

IP Logged

Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #133 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:43pm I thought that was the jury's job. Different rule$ for different fool$.
Back to top	IP Logged

Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113117 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #134 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:43pm Tonight - I bet those nuns put on a nice roast dinner tonight for Pell and he washed it down with a few glasses of wine.
Back to top	IP Logged