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Re: Question for politicians.
Reply #75 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 8:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

I'll answer for Brian Bobby

Australians' views on immigration are ignored by the economic elite and politicians of all colours, business people and economists - they don't need to be discussed

The nation’s economic elite – politicians of all colours, businesspeople and economists – long ago decided we need to grow our population as fast as we can. To them, their reasons for believing this are so blindingly obvious

they don’t need to be discussed
.

Unfortunately, however, it’s doubtful most ordinary Australians agree. A survey last year by researchers at the

Australian National University found that more than 69 per cent of respondents felt we didn’t need more people
,
well up on a similar poll in 2010
.

They did it without permission.

Except for the fact that the undemocratic Libs and Labs keep winning government and the Constitution allows them to do whatever they want re: Immigration

The Constitution just says: "Immigration/Emigration" - Section 51

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95551 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #76 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 8:48pm Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 8:03pm: Except for the fact that the undemocratic Libs and Labs keep winning government and the Constitution allows them to do whatever they want re: Immigration The Constitution just says: "Immigration/Emigration" - Section 51 They are part of our one party communist state.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39596	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #77 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46622 Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #78 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 1:50pm Yet their priority is to flood Australia with plebs from overseas who will be a weight on our society. Crime will proliferate as it already has. No such thing as a domestic support for population growth except for white fluffy dogs.
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10326 Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #79 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm: You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration
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Reply #80 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:12pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? Roll Eyes

We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration

Au contraire'. They are quite willing to discuss it, as long as you accept the ground rules they have laid down. No Racism, no Islamophobia, no Homophobia, etc. If you want to talk numbers, talk numbers. If you want to talk skilled versus unskilled, talk that. However, you cannot as all too often happens mix humanitarian versus unhumanitarian sources. The two are completely different. All too often, the Racists and Xenophobics will only talk about "race" and ethnicity and culture and skin colours and eye shapes and so on and so on. Roll Eyes

Democracy of course means that you, as a voter get to control what the parties say and present as their party platform(s). What's the betting you're not even a member of a political party and therefore have little control over what goes into their Platforms? Roll Eyes

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Reply #81 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:16pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Yet their priority is to flood Australia with plebs from overseas who will be a weight on our society. Crime will proliferate as it already has.
No such thing as a domestic support for population growth except for white fluffy dogs.

Australia is actually a safer society than it was 100 years ago. Crime has not proliferated, it has actually decreased. It gets reported more today than it did 100 years ago. You are reacting to what the MSM likes to report, not to what is actually occurring.

Bobby would have it that Melbourne is a now an African slum with numerous African criminals beating up White Australians every day. In reality, more crime is committed by non-Africans than Africans and more often than not, they are targeting each other, rather than people from other ethnic groups. Roll Eyes

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46622 Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #82 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:18pm But white crime is ok. We just don't want the imported crap.
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Reply #83 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Yet their priority is to flood Australia with plebs from overseas who will be a weight on our society. Crime will proliferate as it already has.
No such thing as a domestic support for population growth except for white fluffy dogs.

Australia is actually a safer society than it was 100 years ago. Crime has not proliferated, it has actually decreased. It gets reported more today than it did 100 years ago. You are reacting to what the MSM likes to report, not to what is actually occurring.

Bobby would have it that Melbourne is a now an African slum with numerous African criminals beating up White Australians every day. In reality, more crime is committed by non-Africans than Africans and more often than not, they are targeting each other, rather than people from other ethnic groups. Roll Eyes

Exactamundo!

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Reply #84 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? Roll Eyes

We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration

Au contraire'. They are quite willing to discuss it, as long as you accept the ground rules they have laid down. No Racism, no Islamophobia, no Homophobia, etc. If you want to talk numbers, talk numbers. If you want to talk skilled versus unskilled, talk that. However, you cannot as all too often happens mix humanitarian versus unhumanitarian sources. The two are completely different. All too often, the Racists and Xenophobics will only talk about "race" and ethnicity and culture and skin colours and eye shapes and so on and so on. Roll Eyes

Democracy of course means that you, as a voter get to control what the parties say and present as their party platform(s). What's the betting you're not even a member of a political party and therefore have little control over what goes into their Platforms? Roll Eyes

Doesn't leave much to talk about - what about the biases that build up in politicians minds favoring immigrants over the rest of society? Lib Lab politics and the Law don't always treat everyone equally. I remember a muslim bloke south of Sydney who got just three years in jail for a premeditated murder. The judge said: "The general public won't understand this sentence", then he gave him only three years. The sentence was based on the muslim belief that it's ok to kill someone who breaches Sharia law. The judge sympathized with that. Sharia law is NOT our law

You're only looking at one side of immigration, you and your political ilk are blind to the many other facets of the policy that all political parties need to take notice of. To ignore them jeopardises the chance for real harmony in society. Your idea of harmony is to ram the immigrants in and call the rest of us racist - great way to conduct an immigration policy, I must say

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Reply #85 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:52pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? Roll Eyes

We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration

Au contraire'. They are quite willing to discuss it, as long as you accept the ground rules they have laid down. No Racism, no Islamophobia, no Homophobia, etc. If you want to talk numbers, talk numbers. If you want to talk skilled versus unskilled, talk that. However, you cannot as all too often happens mix humanitarian versus unhumanitarian sources. The two are completely different. All too often, the Racists and Xenophobics will only talk about "race" and ethnicity and culture and skin colours and eye shapes and so on and so on. Roll Eyes

Democracy of course means that you, as a voter get to control what the parties say and present as their party platform(s). What's the betting you're not even a member of a political party and therefore have little control over what goes into their Platforms? Roll Eyes

Doesn't leave much to talk about - what about the biases that build up in politicians minds favoring immigrants over the rest of society? Lib Lab politics and the Law don't always treat everyone equally. I remember a muslim bloke south of Sydney who got just three years in jail for a premeditated murder. The judge said: "The general public won't understand this sentence", then he gave him only three years. The sentence was based on the muslim belief that it's ok to kill someone who breaches Sharia law. The judge sympathized with that. Sharia law is NOT our law

You're only looking at one side of immigration, you and your political ilk are blind to the many other facets of the policy that all political parties need to take notice of. To ignore them jeopardises the chance for real harmony in society. Your idea of harmony is to ram the immigrants in and call the rest of us racist - great way to conduct an immigration policy, I must say

"Race" as I have explained many times is a social construct and has no meaning in Genetics. We all belong to the one "race", the human one.

Harmony is something the Racists love to talk about without noticing that they are the ones introducing disharmony into the debate and our society. Overwhelming, the majority of Australians support Immigration (within reason) and Multiculturalism. Indeed, over 85% of Australians support Multiculturalism according to the Social Harmony survey conducted by the Scanlon Institute.

We should talk numbers, not where immigrants come from. We should increase IMO our humanitarian intake and we should allow asylum seekers the right to seek asylum on our shores, which they are guaranteed under the UN Treaty for Refugees.

Australia has a finite limit on how many immigrants it can absorb and what population it can carry. This should be acknowledged but that is just numbers, nothing more. We are a Multicultural, Multi-ethnic, Multi-religious society. All you want to do is argue about what we aren't any more. We have moved on from the days of the White Australia policy, thankfully, except in the imagination of the Racists. Roll Eyes

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Reply #86 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 6:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:52pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? Roll Eyes

We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration

Au contraire'. They are quite willing to discuss it, as long as you accept the ground rules they have laid down. No Racism, no Islamophobia, no Homophobia, etc. If you want to talk numbers, talk numbers. If you want to talk skilled versus unskilled, talk that. However, you cannot as all too often happens mix humanitarian versus unhumanitarian sources. The two are completely different. All too often, the Racists and Xenophobics will only talk about "race" and ethnicity and culture and skin colours and eye shapes and so on and so on. Roll Eyes

Democracy of course means that you, as a voter get to control what the parties say and present as their party platform(s). What's the betting you're not even a member of a political party and therefore have little control over what goes into their Platforms? Roll Eyes

Doesn't leave much to talk about - what about the biases that build up in politicians minds favoring immigrants over the rest of society? Lib Lab politics and the Law don't always treat everyone equally. I remember a muslim bloke south of Sydney who got just three years in jail for a premeditated murder. The judge said: "The general public won't understand this sentence", then he gave him only three years. The sentence was based on the muslim belief that it's ok to kill someone who breaches Sharia law. The judge sympathized with that. Sharia law is NOT our law

You're only looking at one side of immigration, you and your political ilk are blind to the many other facets of the policy that all political parties need to take notice of. To ignore them jeopardises the chance for real harmony in society. Your idea of harmony is to ram the immigrants in and call the rest of us racist - great way to conduct an immigration policy, I must say

"Race" as I have explained many times is a social construct and has no meaning in Genetics. We all belong to the one "race", the human one.

Harmony is something the Racists love to talk about without noticing that they are the ones introducing disharmony into the debate and our society. Overwhelming, the majority of Australians support Immigration (within reason) and Multiculturalism. Indeed, over 85% of Australians support Multiculturalism according to the Social Harmony survey conducted by the Scanlon Institute.

We should talk numbers, not where immigrants come from. We should increase IMO our humanitarian intake and we should allow asylum seekers the right to seek asylum on our shores, which they are guaranteed under the UN Treaty for Refugees.

Australia has a finite limit on how many immigrants it can absorb and what population it can carry. This should be acknowledged but that is just numbers, nothing more. We are a Multicultural, Multi-ethnic, Multi-religious society. All you want to do is argue about what we aren't any more. We have moved on from the days of the White Australia policy, thankfully, except in the imagination of the Racists. Roll Eyes

So you keep saying. It's your standard cut&paste answer when you haven't got an answer for anything specific within the immigration debate - you're an intellectual dud

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Reply #87 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 6:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:16pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Yet their priority is to flood Australia with plebs from overseas who will be a weight on our society. Crime will proliferate as it already has.
No such thing as a domestic support for population growth except for white fluffy dogs.

Australia is actually a safer society than it was 100 years ago. Crime has not proliferated, it has actually decreased. It gets reported more today than it did 100 years ago. You are reacting to what the MSM likes to report, not to what is actually occurring.

Bobby would have it that Melbourne is a now an African slum with numerous African criminals beating up White Australians every day. In reality, more crime is committed by non-Africans than Africans and more often than not, they are targeting each other, rather than people from other ethnic groups. Roll Eyes

dear Brian,
I don't remember: car jackings, home invasions and shop swarming theft,
before the Africans arrived.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #88 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 8:20pm My question to the politicians would be, when will this madness end, is there even any end in sight,, when is enough enough.
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Reply #89 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:09pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 6:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:52pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 10:04pm:

You two really do have problems understanding how Democracy works, don't you? Roll Eyes

We understand that the Libs and Labs don't want to discuss the issue of immigration

Au contraire'. They are quite willing to discuss it, as long as you accept the ground rules they have laid down. No Racism, no Islamophobia, no Homophobia, etc. If you want to talk numbers, talk numbers. If you want to talk skilled versus unskilled, talk that. However, you cannot as all too often happens mix humanitarian versus unhumanitarian sources. The two are completely different. All too often, the Racists and Xenophobics will only talk about "race" and ethnicity and culture and skin colours and eye shapes and so on and so on. Roll Eyes

Democracy of course means that you, as a voter get to control what the parties say and present as their party platform(s). What's the betting you're not even a member of a political party and therefore have little control over what goes into their Platforms? Roll Eyes

Doesn't leave much to talk about - what about the biases that build up in politicians minds favoring immigrants over the rest of society? Lib Lab politics and the Law don't always treat everyone equally. I remember a muslim bloke south of Sydney who got just three years in jail for a premeditated murder. The judge said: "The general public won't understand this sentence", then he gave him only three years. The sentence was based on the muslim belief that it's ok to kill someone who breaches Sharia law. The judge sympathized with that. Sharia law is NOT our law

You're only looking at one side of immigration, you and your political ilk are blind to the many other facets of the policy that all political parties need to take notice of. To ignore them jeopardises the chance for real harmony in society. Your idea of harmony is to ram the immigrants in and call the rest of us racist - great way to conduct an immigration policy, I must say

"Race" as I have explained many times is a social construct and has no meaning in Genetics. We all belong to the one "race", the human one.

Harmony is something the Racists love to talk about without noticing that they are the ones introducing disharmony into the debate and our society. Overwhelming, the majority of Australians support Immigration (within reason) and Multiculturalism. Indeed, over 85% of Australians support Multiculturalism according to the Social Harmony survey conducted by the Scanlon Institute.

We should talk numbers, not where immigrants come from. We should increase IMO our humanitarian intake and we should allow asylum seekers the right to seek asylum on our shores, which they are guaranteed under the UN Treaty for Refugees.

Australia has a finite limit on how many immigrants it can absorb and what population it can carry. This should be acknowledged but that is just numbers, nothing more. We are a Multicultural, Multi-ethnic, Multi-religious society. All you want to do is argue about what we aren't any more. We have moved on from the days of the White Australia policy, thankfully, except in the imagination of the Racists. Roll Eyes

So you keep saying. It's your standard cut&paste answer when you haven't got an answer for anything specific within the immigration debate - you're an intellectual dud

Not my problem that you will only debate using ideas/terms/concepts which are unacceptable in polite company. Roll Eyes

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