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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95522 Melbourne Gender:	Question for politicians. Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am The question is - why didn't any politicians say during election campaigns over the last 25 years that they planned to bring in millions of new immigrants from all over the world? - including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.
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Reply #1 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:45am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

They did. I dont remember who but back in late 70s early 80s it was a campaign promise wasnt it?

also the last few have done it too - they keep saying they are going to bring in migrants on those 457 visas

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46613 Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #2 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 12:17pm Yes - but Australia's immigration culture has been to bring in 'skilled and educated' peoples. Not dole-bludging, baby-pumping, useless plebs to infest this country like ticks on a dog.
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Reply #3 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

They did. I dont remember who but back in late 70s early 80s it was a campaign promise wasnt it?

also the last few have done it too - they keep saying they are going to bring in migrants on those 457 visas

Spot

I never heard it once from any politician.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95522 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #4 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:36pm Jasin wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 12:17pm: Yes - but Australia's immigration culture has been to bring in 'skilled and educated' peoples. Not dole-bludging, baby-pumping, useless plebs to infest this country like ticks on a dog. They invited the world's trailer trash here by the millions.
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Reply #5 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:35pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

They did. I dont remember who but back in late 70s early 80s it was a campaign promise wasnt it?

also the last few have done it too - they keep saying they are going to bring in migrants on those 457 visas

Spot

I never heard it once from any politician.

Meh if i get time ill try to look it up. I could be wrong anyway because i have lived in several countries when i was young

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20231 Gordon Gender:	Re: Question for politicians. Reply #6 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:51pm Why did we bring these ones here? post picture
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Reply #7 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:16pm

Gordon, perhaps they were allowed in because:

1) No one asked them what their attitudes were towards non-Muslims?
2) No one asked them if they intended to be Terrorists 10-20 years after the arrived?
3) No one asked them to swear allegiance to Australia when they arrived?
4) No one asked them not to listen to Islamist preachers who preached hatred towards all non-Muslims?
5) Perhaps they became radical in reaction to events overseas which occurred after they came to Australia, such as 11 September, the attack on Afghanistan/Iraq/etc.?

Gordon, no government is perfect, no government policy is perfect, there will always be mistakes. People change over time, their attitudes change because of circumstances and their reactions to them. A person who is a good migrant might decide to start supporting say, Hitler and create a Nazi cell of agents who are dedicated to sabotaging our nation's war effort against the Axis powers (and don't claim I'm being ridiculous - it happened - look up Johannes Heinrich Becker - father to the SA MP Heini Becker).

You OTOH believe that everybody should be gifted with perfect foresight and determine peoples' fate purely on the basis of Racial/Religious/Sexual prejudice. Fortunately most people think you're a fool. I know I do. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

They did, Bobby, they did. Every major political party has a Party Platform at each and every election where they state what their party's policies are. I've mentioned this to you before, so I know you're read but it is obvious you've failed to understand it. In the party's Platform there will have been a section on immigration and another on Multiculturalism. I'd recommend you go back to say 1945 and start reading the Parties' Platforms and find out what they were promising. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #9 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

They did, Bobby, they did. Every major political party has a Party Platform at each and every election where they state what their party's policies are. I've mentioned this to you before, so I know you're read but it is obvious you've failed to understand it. In the party's Platform there will have been a section on immigration and another on Multiculturalism. I'd recommend you go back to say 1945 and start reading the Parties' Platforms and find out what they were promising. Roll Eyes

Brian,
evidence?
Try and find a Youtube video or any video or even
some election advertisement that clearly says

"We plan to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc."

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Reply #10 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

Pollies work on the same principle as; Never ask for a 'cookie' if you believe that the answer will be, 'no'.

Instead, just take the 'cookie' when no one is looking.

And if your mum asks; Where have all of the 'cookies' gone ? ...just shrug your shoulders.

"Maybe the dog ate them ?"

bobby,

Its politics.

And 'Realpolitik' is about, 'The art of the possible.'

No politician ever attends any formal classes about 'policy ethics', or 'the ethics of representative government'.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #11 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:56pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The question is -

why didn't any politicians say during election
campaigns over the last 25 years that they
planned to bring in millions of new immigrants
from all over the world? -
including from Sudan, Somalia & Pakistan etc.

Pollies work on the same principle as; Never ask for a 'cookie' if you believe that the answer will be, 'no'.

Instead, just take the 'cookie' when no one is looking.

And if your mum asks; Where have all of the 'cookies' gone ? ...just shrug your shoulders.

"Maybe the dog ate them ?"

bobby,

Its politics.

And 'Realpolitik' is about, 'The art of the possible.'

No politician ever attends any formal classes about 'policy ethics', or 'the ethics of representative government'.

Why did they want them here?

It's just the world's trailer trash.

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Reply #12 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:57pm

The last ugly individual on that list of photos is Neil Prakash who is of Fijian-Indian and Cambodian background. He's sitting in a Turkish jail. First the dog tried to come back here and then he tried Fiji. He got knocked back on both occasions. I hope so jelly spine in government doesn't bring this maggot back here. If that happens I'll lose my last piece of respect for Australia.

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Reply #13 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:02pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

The last ugly individual on that list of photos is Neil Prakash who is of Fijian-Indian and Cambodian background. He's sitting in a Turkish jail. First the dog tried to come back here and then he tried Fiji. He got knocked back on both occasions. I hope so jelly spine in government doesn't bring this maggot back here. If that happens I'll lose my last piece of respect for Australia.

Cop this one:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7724763/An-aggressive-asylum-seeker-acc...

'Aggressive' asylum seeker accused of repeatedly trying to start a relationship with a girl, 13, is given medevac transfer to Australia

The man, believed to be in his 30s, is one of hundreds of migrants on Nauru
He is accused of 10 violent incidents as well as harassing a teenage girl
The unnamed man will now come to Australia after being assessed by doctors.

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Reply #14 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

The last ugly individual on that list of photos is Neil Prakash who is of Fijian-Indian and Cambodian background. He's sitting in a Turkish jail. First the dog tried to come back here and then he tried Fiji. He got knocked back on both occasions. I hope so jelly spine in government doesn't bring this maggot back here. If that happens I'll lose my last piece of respect for Australia.

Cop this one:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7724763/An-aggressive-asylum-seeker-acc...

'Aggressive' asylum seeker accused of repeatedly trying to start a relationship with a girl, 13, is given medevac transfer to Australia

The man, believed to be in his 30s, is one of hundreds of migrants on Nauru
He is accused of 10 violent incidents as well as harassing a teenage girl
The unnamed man will now come to Australia after being assessed by doctors.

Is his first name Donald? Undecided

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