freediver wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:


This is about FD's favourite 'go to' response when he has been exposed as making up porkies that have no basis in fact: "oh but you ignore all the legit evidence I already presented". It is of course bluster and hot air. No one who could actually be bothered reading this entire inane debate would be under any illusions that the entirety of FD's arguments have been no more than the laughable list I just cited. And of course most of that does not even resemble presenting evidence, but is hysterical flailing  - such as ad-hom attacks and levelling the trusty old 'your a terrorist sympathiser' accusation. What is left bare, under this most pathetic emperor's clothes is literally nothing more than the lamest references in wikipedia to a) school girls who "risked execution" and b) entirely irrelevant anecdotes of attacks outside the period in question (ie taliban rule 1996-2001). He then spends the entirety of the rest of this conversation (39 pages and counting) padding it with idiotic rhetorical questions ('are you saying the article suggests the executions *WEREN'T* happening??'), logical fallacies ('by saying I am wrong, you are the one "claiming" baselessly the executions didn't happen'), and of course the usual ad-homs about the critics' religion who is naturally a terrorist sympathiser.

Or in other words, the same way that FD always reacts when forced to confront his own dishonesty.

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I did not. Here again FD exposes his extraordinary inability to understand the difference between pointing out that a particular statement is baseless, and actually claiming that the opposite definitely happened.

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FD literally still can't bring himself to acknowledge simple, uncontroversial truths like the fact that white people committed the greatest acts of genocide the world has ever seen. He pretends it was nothing but the flu. He can't even acknowledge that where flu/European diseases caused widespread deaths in non-European places, it was mostly brought there becacuse the Europeans went a raping and pillaging there.

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2019 at 9:48pm:


Thanks FD. Good to know. I'll try and remember never again to blame people for spreading disease because they invaded, raped and pillaged someone else's land - so long as the disease was brought "unwittingly".

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

These diseases were prevalent right throughout the known world at the time. These viruses and bacteria are actually older than humans. They are ancient lifeforms. The reason white people conquered lands is because they could. They were the leaders in long distance sea travel. If other peoples could have done  it  they would have done it themselves. White people aren't the only pillagers throughout history. It was happening before white people. The population affected doesn't make it any worse. It's still pillaging no matter how you look at it. African's , arabs, Persians, aborigines,  South American tribal wars etc etc etc.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 2:38pm:

The known world Brian. The world that had constant interaction.

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 2:40pm:


Gandalf was answering your question about the "unknown world". 

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

Smallpox comes from Africa. I don't understand why it has become a white disease. That's all I'm saying.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:

It wasn't only spread by the  conquistadors. It's been spread by loads of people throughout the ages. Even from mothers to babies. The bacteria doesn't care about politics or warfare . It just hops from one post to the other. No human is guilty of that. It's just nature. When you are an isolated population that's a danger. No defence.