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East Timor - Australia's non-role in it's liberati
Aug 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm
 
Declassified intelligence documents shed light on 1999 Timor Leste independence.   It appears that John Howard's narrative was not quite the whole truth, if the truth at all...    Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 3:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
Declassified intelligence documents shed light on 1999 Timor Leste independence.   It appears that John Howard's narrative was not quite the whole truth, if the truth at all...    Roll Eyes


That explains something which occurred within my own circle.  I was badgering someone about the delay in getting involved...and was brushed off.  That goes to possibly explain it.
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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs..yuk.

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Reply #2 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 3:13pm
 
What a surprise. We've been smacking over that country for 50 years.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
Declassified intelligence documents shed light on 1999 Timor Leste independence.   It appears that John Howard's narrative was not quite the whole truth, if the truth at all...    Roll Eyes



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Reply #4 - Aug 30th, 2019 at 3:28pm
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2019 at 12:09pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 3:28pm:



Again our desire not to piss off the Indonesians goes back to Whitlam
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2019 at 12:25pm
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 12:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 3:28pm:


Again our desire not to piss off the Indonesians goes back to Whitlam


Actually, it goes back to Menzies.  The West New Guinea affair predates Whitlam's ascendency to anything except being an MHR.  Australia had it's bum royally kicked by the unwillingness of our, "great and powerful friends" to intervene on our behalf because the Yanks needed the Indonesians more than they needed us - so much so we went to war in Vietnam in order keep the Yanks involved in the region.  Indonesia was important because it controlled the egress straits from the Pacific (Guam where the US Navy had a major submarine base for Polarise equipped submarines) to the Indian Ocean which would put their missiles in range of the central Soviet Union.
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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:00pm
 
If all Indonesians migrated to the moon, we would probably be better off. We will just have to pay a little more for our toothpaste and Nikes.
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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:31pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
If all Indonesians migrated to the moon, we would probably be better off. We will just have to pay a little more for our toothpaste and Nikes.


How does that statement add to the thread, Unsub?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:03pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
If all Indonesians migrated to the moon, we would probably be better off. We will just have to pay a little more for our toothpaste and Nikes.


How does that statement add to the thread, Unsub?   Roll Eyes


Indonesia does not really offer much to Australia other than cheap mass-produced goods. But, we seem to pay the difference with a half-billion-dollar bribe every year to them.
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Reply #10 - Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:25pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
If all Indonesians migrated to the moon, we would probably be better off. We will just have to pay a little more for our toothpaste and Nikes.


How does that statement add to the thread, Unsub?   Roll Eyes


Indonesia does not really offer much to Australia other than cheap mass-produced goods. But, we seem to pay the difference with a half-billion-dollar bribe every year to them.



Really?  Seems to offer a lot to many Australians who visit Bali their holiday island every year.

However, your comment does not explain how that adds to a thread about Australia and East Timor...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:38am
 
Well, East Timor seems to be a basketcase country that is reliant on the world to keep their country afloat. And Australia seems to be the country that has to bail out the East Timorese. It seems realistic that we collect the profits from oil revenue that is in the East Timor region.
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Reply #12 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 4:08pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 10:38am:
Well, East Timor seems to be a basketcase country that is reliant on the world to keep their country afloat. And Australia seems to be the country that has to bail out the East Timorese. It seems realistic that we collect the profits from oil revenue that is in the East Timor region.


If you believe that, then I take it you're not in favour of Australia baling out the East Timorese?
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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 4:12pm
 
Gee, what a surprise (sarc. Roll Eyes) to find out that
A. the libs lied, and continue to do so
B. When america says jump, their only question is 'how high sir'.

Is anyone really surprised by this news?
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Our esteemed leader:

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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2019 at 4:17pm
 
As I understand it the undersea oil field straddles both Australian and Timorese territorial waters. So it is just Timorese oil. let's hope Indonesia doesn't start suck it up because effectively they'll be stealing our oil.
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