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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #240 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 4:54pm

rhino wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

Seeings how Peccarhead is always championing refugees in detention human rights according to the UN etc etc.

How about he take heed of The UNs Declaration of Human Rights regarding Israel Folau?

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private,to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

And Article 19:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas "through any media" and regardless of frontiers.

Not sure what your point is, as those freedoms haven't been taken away from him.

They've been overridden.

it was Folaus decision to override them

He didn't over ride his rights Giovanni

sure he did. He signed the contract. No one held a gun to his head. He could have insisted on keeping his rights then, but for some reason he was perfectly happy to sign them away Cheesy

So, domestically Australian law trumps UN treaties or agreements, is this what you are saying?

Of course domestic laws trump international agreements.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #241 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 6:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 10:15pm:

Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?

Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.

The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?

You are wrong FD. The culture warriors on the right would have made it an issue for exactly the same reason they worked so hard to make Yassmin's completely inoccuous tweet an issue. Which they did anyway, the first time he sent the tweet - and wasn't sacked for it. Its about sticking it to the progressives more than anything else. I believe this is your modus-operandi as well - you just think you're being more clever cloaking it in this legalistic narrative about rights of employment. You would obviously be back in witness protection had a muslim Rugby player been sacked for calling Islam the most feminist religion - or even a female muslim TV personality.

You keep believing that's all it was.. Roll Eyes

Lest. We. Forget (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine ...)

Horrifying huh?

Timing was everything ... no?

Horrifying no .. deliberately disrespectful yes.

One of her taxpayer funded mates wants to burn the country down .... offensive?

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #243 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 9:41pm

Will you persist in these lewd acts which no other nation has committed before you? You lust after men instead of women. Truly, you are a degenerate people. (Quran 7:81-82)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” Abu Dawud 4462 (This is a sahih hadith)

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #244 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 9:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

Lest. We. Forget (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine ...)

Horrifying huh?

Will you persist in these lewd acts which no other nation has committed before you? You lust after men instead of women. Truly, you are a degenerate people. (Quran 7:81-82)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” Abu Dawud 4462 (This is a sahih hadith)

Horrifying huh?

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #245 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 12:44am

John Smith wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

Seeings how Peccarhead is always championing refugees in detention human rights according to the UN etc etc.

How about he take heed of The UNs Declaration of Human Rights regarding Israel Folau?

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private,to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

And Article 19:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas "through any media" and regardless of frontiers.

Not sure what your point is, as those freedoms haven't been taken away from him.

They've been overridden.

it was Folaus decision to override them

He didn't over ride his rights Giovanni

sure he did. He signed the contract. No one held a gun to his head. He could have insisted on keeping his rights then, but for some reason he was perfectly happy to sign them away Cheesy

So, domestically Australian law trumps UN treaties or agreements, is this what you are saying?

Of course domestic laws trump international agreements.

Yes ... they DO, Luig......

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #246 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 8:25am

John Smith wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

Seeings how Peccarhead is always championing refugees in detention human rights according to the UN etc etc.

How about he take heed of The UNs Declaration of Human Rights regarding Israel Folau?

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private,to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

And Article 19:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas "through any media" and regardless of frontiers.

Not sure what your point is, as those freedoms haven't been taken away from him.

They've been overridden.

it was Folaus decision to override them

He didn't over ride his rights Giovanni

sure he did. He signed the contract. No one held a gun to his head. He could have insisted on keeping his rights then, but for some reason he was perfectly happy to sign them away Cheesy

So, domestically Australian law trumps UN treaties or agreements, is this what you are saying?

Of course domestic laws trump international agreements.

Actually, treaty law is Australian law. Treaties are legislated.

Rights, on the other hand, are more broad. The UN Charter on the Rights of the Child, for example,is taken seriously, but it's not law, it forms policy - especially in schools and child welfare services. Their acceditors use the principles of UN charter to authorise them.

Anti-discrimination and human right charters are another mon-legally binding agreement. We have a commission for these rights - we have no bill of rights like other countries. The commission is able to litigate under civil law. Agencies that discriminate for various reasons seek exhemption for a time-limited period.

The homeless shelter I work at sought exhemption for trannies. It didn't want to place any man who called himself a woman on the female floor. The refuge has shared bathrooms. So when transgender people came in, we asked whether they'd had surgery. If they had, they were classed as women. If not, they went to a male floor. They had to seek exhemption from the equal rights commission to do this - every 2 years, I think.

Now they have a tranny room with its own bathroom, so it's all good, but this is an example of how Australia implements international human rights.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #247 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 11:46am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 10:15pm:

Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?

Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.

The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?

You are wrong FD. The culture warriors on the right would have made it an issue for exactly the same reason they worked so hard to make Yassmin's completely inoccuous tweet an issue. Which they did anyway, the first time he sent the tweet - and wasn't sacked for it. Its about sticking it to the progressives more than anything else. I believe this is your modus-operandi as well - you just think you're being more clever cloaking it in this legalistic narrative about rights of employment. You would obviously be back in witness protection had a muslim Rugby player been sacked for calling Islam the most feminist religion - or even a female muslim TV personality.

Yassmin wasn't sacked ..................she left of her own accord.......... her sails filed with gales of laughter which took the wind out of her sails....

Never said she was. The ABC commendably stood by her, as they stood by Emma Alberici when the government was piling the pressure on. And we didn't call that attack on the ABC's supposed independence as a good thing for free speech - and nor should it be called so in the Yassmin case.

Like I said before, had Barnaby or Abetz simply said "I don't think what she said was appropriate etc, but she has a right to say it" - then that would have made all the difference. But they didn't - they specifically called for her to be sacked for it.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #248 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 2:51pm

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

Lest. We. Forget (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine ...)

Horrifying huh?

Will you persist in these lewd acts which no other nation has committed before you? You lust after men instead of women. Truly, you are a degenerate people. (Quran 7:81-82)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” Abu Dawud 4462 (This is a sahih hadith)

Horrifying huh?

Did she quote a Hadith?

Oh my. What an awful tinted rotter.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #249 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 5:21pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 8:25am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

Seeings how Peccarhead is always championing refugees in detention human rights according to the UN etc etc.

How about he take heed of The UNs Declaration of Human Rights regarding Israel Folau?

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private,to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

And Article 19:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas "through any media" and regardless of frontiers.

Not sure what your point is, as those freedoms haven't been taken away from him.

They've been overridden.

it was Folaus decision to override them

He didn't over ride his rights Giovanni

sure he did. He signed the contract. No one held a gun to his head. He could have insisted on keeping his rights then, but for some reason he was perfectly happy to sign them away Cheesy

So, domestically Australian law trumps UN treaties or agreements, is this what you are saying?

Of course domestic laws trump international agreements.

Actually, treaty law is Australian law. Treaties are legislated.

Rights, on the other hand, are more broad. The UN Charter on the Rights of the Child, for example,is taken seriously, but it's not law, it forms policy - especially in schools and child welfare services. Their acceditors use the principles of UN charter to authorise them.

Anti-discrimination and human right charters are another mon-legally binding agreement. We have a commission for these rights - we have no bill of rights like other countries. The commission is able to litigate under civil law. Agencies that discriminate for various reasons seek exhemption for a time-limited period.

The homeless shelter I work at sought exhemption for trannies. It didn't want to place any man who called himself a woman on the female floor. The refuge has shared bathrooms. So when transgender people came in, we asked whether they'd had surgery. If they had, they were classed as women. If not, they went to a male floor. They had to seek exhemption from the equal rights commission to do this - every 2 years, I think.

Now they have a tranny room with its own bathroom, so it's all good, but this is an example of how Australia implements international human rights.

Thanks.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #250 - Jul 12^th, 2019 at 6:26am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 11:46am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 10:15pm:

Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?

Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.

The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?

You are wrong FD. The culture warriors on the right would have made it an issue for exactly the same reason they worked so hard to make Yassmin's completely inoccuous tweet an issue. Which they did anyway, the first time he sent the tweet - and wasn't sacked for it. Its about sticking it to the progressives more than anything else. I believe this is your modus-operandi as well - you just think you're being more clever cloaking it in this legalistic narrative about rights of employment. You would obviously be back in witness protection had a muslim Rugby player been sacked for calling Islam the most feminist religion - or even a female muslim TV personality.

Yassmin wasn't sacked ..................she left of her own accord.......... her sails filed with gales of laughter which took the wind out of her sails....

Never said she was. The ABC commendably stood by her, as they stood by Emma Alberici when the government was piling the pressure on. And we didn't call that attack on the ABC's supposed independence as a good thing for free speech - and nor should it be called so in the Yassmin case.

Like I said before, had Barnaby or Abetz simply said "I don't think what she said was appropriate etc, but she has a right to say it" - then that would have made all the difference. But they didn't - they specifically called for her to be sacked for it.

Yeee-usssh - but the fact remains that she wasn't sacked... big difference...

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/julie-bishop-resists-eric-abetzs-call-to...

"Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has resisted calls to sack Yassmin Abdel-Magied from a government advisory board over controversial Anzac Day comments because the ABC presenter has apologised for her "highly inappropriate" social media post and agreed to a mentoring program.

In a letter to Liberal senator Eric Abetz and obtained by Fairfax Media, Ms Bishop says that she had decided against "terminating" Ms Abdel-Magied from her position on the board of the Council for Australian-Arab Relations which is run by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade."

There's more - but being a silly bint and out of touch doesn't mean she is vicious and nasty and should be offered rape and death or sacking... she did apologise...

Abetz did call for her sacking.... I thought they should create her own comedy segment for her to air her views... Cool

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #251 - Jul 12^th, 2019 at 6:30am

Anyway - my view is that the views of both Yassmin and Israel are worthy of a shrug, a shake of the head, and a moving on... not the kind of furore that has developed over such innocuous comments .... we can all pause to remember Manus etc ..... no big deal..... and gays going to hell? Who cares if there is no hell anyway?

More laugh-worthy was 'Islam is the most feminist religion' .... now that deserves a comedy award for excellence... Cool

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Reply #252 - Jul 12^th, 2019 at 6:35am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

Lest. We. Forget (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine ...)

Horrifying huh?

Will you persist in these lewd acts which no other nation has committed before you? You lust after men instead of women. Truly, you are a degenerate people. (Quran 7:81-82)

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.” Abu Dawud 4462 (This is a sahih hadith)

Horrifying huh?

Did she quote a Hadith?

Oh my. What an awful tinted rotter.

Tinted? It would get the same response coming from Snow White and The Seven Mental Midgets ......

Leigh Sales - "Islam is now officially the most Feminist religion, according to studies undertaken by a Learned Professor in Moronistan. The Australian Government has come out in support of the views of Professor Farken Blindasabat, head of the Moronistan Bureau of Gender Equality, who says that in-depth studies have shown the stark reality of Islam as regards women's rights... with those rights far exceeding those of men in Islam, and especially Moronistan"...

What's dusky got to do with it?

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #253 - Jul 12^th, 2019 at 8:35am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2019 at 6:26am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 11:46am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2019 at 8:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 10:15pm:

Suppose Alan Joyce called for his sacking, but he was not sacked. Do you think people on here would care as much about Folau's freedom of speech and freedom of religion then?

Of course they would. Joyce is already under fire for the sacking.

Folau's actual sacking isn't what the culture warriors are getting their pants wet over - its that the "homofascists" as you call them dared to attack him for his religious views. Joyce stepping in would have just upped the ante, as he is an actual vested interest in this - and it would have (rightly) been interpreted by the culture warriors as RA being put under real and significant pressure to sack one of their players - given Qantas's financial influence over RA.

To say that liberal politicians - including senior cabinet ministers - calling directly for an ABC employee to be sacked is not a serious interference that causes real influence to the ABC management is disingenuous to the extreme. Especially with what we now know about the Alberici case. And simply retorting that neither Yassmin or Alberici were sacked in the end does not change the fact that it was an egregious attack on their freedom.

The only reason it is an issue is because Folau was actually sacked. Otherwise the vast majority would take the same view as the atheists, drunks, fornicators etc on Folau's list - who cares what they say?

You are wrong FD. The culture warriors on the right would have made it an issue for exactly the same reason they worked so hard to make Yassmin's completely inoccuous tweet an issue. Which they did anyway, the first time he sent the tweet - and wasn't sacked for it. Its about sticking it to the progressives more than anything else. I believe this is your modus-operandi as well - you just think you're being more clever cloaking it in this legalistic narrative about rights of employment. You would obviously be back in witness protection had a muslim Rugby player been sacked for calling Islam the most feminist religion - or even a female muslim TV personality.

Yassmin wasn't sacked ..................she left of her own accord.......... her sails filed with gales of laughter which took the wind out of her sails....

Never said she was. The ABC commendably stood by her, as they stood by Emma Alberici when the government was piling the pressure on. And we didn't call that attack on the ABC's supposed independence as a good thing for free speech - and nor should it be called so in the Yassmin case.

Like I said before, had Barnaby or Abetz simply said "I don't think what she said was appropriate etc, but she has a right to say it" - then that would have made all the difference. But they didn't - they specifically called for her to be sacked for it.

Yeee-usssh - but the fact remains that she wasn't sacked... big difference...

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/julie-bishop-resists-eric-abetzs-call-to...

"Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has resisted calls to sack Yassmin Abdel-Magied from a government advisory board over controversial Anzac Day comments because the ABC presenter has apologised for her "highly inappropriate" social media post and agreed to a mentoring program.

In a letter to Liberal senator Eric Abetz and obtained by Fairfax Media, Ms Bishop says that she had decided against "terminating" Ms Abdel-Magied from her position on the board of the Council for Australian-Arab Relations which is run by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade."

There's more - but being a silly bint and out of touch doesn't mean she is vicious and nasty and should be offered rape and death or sacking... she did apologise...

Abetz did call for her sacking.... I thought they should create her own comedy segment for her to air her views... Cool

Pseudo Arab.

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Re: Folau vs Yassmin
Reply #254 - Jul 12^th, 2019 at 12:31pm

from Grappler's article:

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"Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has resisted calls to sack Yassmin Abdel-Magied from a government advisory board over controversial Anzac Day comments because the ABC presenter has apologised for her "highly inappropriate" social media post and agreed to a mentoring program.

So this is what passes as 'free speech' eh?

Employees of the supposedly independent ABC are "free" to say what they want as long as they admit they were wrong, offer a grovelling apology and undergo re-education - whenever someone from the government gets hurt feeling by what they said?

FMD, it sounds more like something out of North Korea.

How do you think it would fly with culture warriors like FD if Falua was able to keep his job with RA - provided he too agreed to undergo such humiliating grovelling and re-education?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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