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Folau vs Yassmin
Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:40pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 5:28pm:
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mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 6:48pm:
I'm still amazed at the outrage on Folau'ss behalf by the very same mob calling for the head of Yassmin Abdel-Mageid.

She didn't say anyone was going to hell either. She just asked us to be compassionate.



yes but she is muslim ... how dare she ask middle aged white men to do anything
She stood up for her religious beliefs like falou. She even went as far as to tell us that Sharia is great for females? Pity she had to use ANZAC Day as a platform to have a go at our soldiers.


She did absolutely none of that.


Grin She absolutely did.


She told us that Islam was the most feminine religion. Sounds more like mocking religious beliefs than standing up for them. People mocked her for being an idiot, not for being a Muslim.

The usual suspects here whined about how criticising her for saying stupid poo was restricting her freedom of speech. But when the tables were turned and Folau was actually fired, they changed their tune. The hypocrisy of the apologists knows no limits.
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Reply #1 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:05pm
 
It occurs to me that Yassmin is the perfect example of how freedom of speech is supposed to work, while Folau is the perfect example of how to stick your head in your rectum, create a mountain out of a molehill, and turn a man into a martyr for freedom of speech over a banal and familiar opinion.

Yassmin was rightly mocked for saying stupid things, misappropriating public funds to line her own pockets, lying about Islam, and getting hysterical about the criticism she rightly deserved. Despite having plenty of perfectly legal reasons to fire her, the ABC stood by her and refused. But she wilted under the glaring reality of what people think of her. It seemed to take her by surprise. Being an ugly black female Muslim of apparently limited intelligence and perception, she was probably accustomed to being a protected species at the ABC and SBS. She ran away from freedom of speech, while the usual apologists were trying to turn the public mockery of her into an attack on free speech, as though she should be able to do and say stupid things without anyone noticing.

Folau ran towards freedom of speech. Rather than subject him to public criticism for his opinion, the homofascists did the cowardly thing and conspired behind the scenes to make him lose his job - a move that is likely to turn out to be illegal. Then they followed this up with celebrating gofundme pulling his campaign. Both propelled Folau into the spotlight, massively increased public support for him, and allowed him to raise $2million in 2 days. Now he is likely to win the case or get a favourable settlement, all under the public eye. He said something stupid and the homofascists turned him into a hero of free speech for it.

The two cases could not be more different, yet somehow the usual apologists are now trying to use Yassmin to accuse those who support freedom of speech of hypocrisy. Perhaps they should go back and look at what was actually said - their own hysterical claims that criticising Yassmin infringed on her freedom of speech, and their hypocritical backflip on Folau.
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Reply #2 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
Well done.

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Reply #3 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:45pm
 
What Yassmin said and did, particularly her claim that Islam is the most feminist religion, was absurd, controversial and unfamiliar. Pretty much the definition of newsworthy.

What Folau said was completely uninteresting. Everyone already knows where gays go when they die. It was only the hysterical, cowardly and most likely illegal conspiracy to get him fired that made him newsworthy. He has handled the situation with a quiet dignity, sticking to his position and calmly going about seeking justice.

Pretty much the opposite of Yassmin. Watching her dig herself in deeper with every comment was like watching a slow motion train wreck, finally ending with a crescendo of her blaming everyone but herself for the stupid poo she pulled. She tried to do a Kim Kardashian, but was totally unprepared for the response and she refused to learn from any of her mistakes along the way. She fled to London, tail between her legs, still blaming others.
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Reply #4 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:55pm
 
You are kidding me. 

Finally, it is clear...you are a Happy Clapping OT Bible Bashing homophobic devotee.  I seriously have and by a large margin overestimated you.

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Everyone already knows where gays go when they die.


Is there anything in the Old Testament you disagree with Effendi?
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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs..yuk.

A racist bigot said "implying brown is not as bad as black."  Link
 
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Reply #5 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:45pm:
What Yassmin said and did, particularly her claim that Islam is the most feminist religion, was absurd, controversial and unfamiliar. Pretty much the definition of newsworthy.

What Folau said was completely uninteresting. Everyone already knows where gays go when they die. It was only the hysterical, cowardly and most likely illegal conspiracy to get him fired that made him newsworthy. He has handled the situation with a quiet dignity, sticking to his position and calmly going about seeking justice.

Pretty much the opposite of Yassmin. Watching her dig herself in deeper with every comment was like watching a slow motion train wreck, finally ending with a crescendo of her blaming everyone but herself for the stupid poo she pulled. She tried to do a Kim Kardashian, but was totally unprepared for the response and she refused to learn from any of her mistakes along the way. She fled to London, tail between her legs, still blaming others.


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.........  He has handled the situation with a quiet dignity, sticking to his position       .......


I have grown up and been with these people for decades.
What you have said is exactly what they are.

They are quietly spoken, honest, gentle, loving people.
Whenever they speak, be quiet and listen intently.

They are a beautiful people.
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Reply #6 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:40pm:
The usual suspects here whined about how criticising her for saying stupid poo was restricting her freedom of speech.



I'm calling bullshit on that claim. You're full of it FD.

Don't you think it's about time you sought professional help
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Reply #7 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm
 
I heard Yasmin is in Australia right now. Hanging around like a fly to a turd. That silly head with it's bright red lipstick and s hit covering it's hair just makes one want to punch it.
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Reply #8 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:
I heard Yasmin is in Australia right now. Hanging around like a fly to a turd. That silly head with it's bright red lipstick and s hit covering it's hair just makes one want to punch it.



I, for one, am not surprised that you would get your jollies by punching a woman for voicing her opinion.

you're one of the crusaders for free speech aren't you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #9 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:46pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:55pm:
You are kidding me. 

Finally, it is clear...you are a Happy Clapping OT Bible Bashing homophobic devotee.  I seriously have and by a large margin overestimated you.

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Everyone already knows where gays go when they die.


Is there anything in the Old Testament you disagree with Effendi?


Relax Aussie. I am not saying I agree with Folau. Just that everyone has heard it before.

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Are you talking about Tongans?
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Reply #10 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:50pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:55pm:
You are kidding me. 

Finally, it is clear...you are a Happy Clapping OT Bible Bashing homophobic devotee.  I seriously have and by a large margin overestimated you.

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Everyone already knows where gays go when they die.


Is there anything in the Old Testament you disagree with Effendi?


Come on Effendi. Telling me to 'relax' is just silly.

Tell us please.....where are the Poofs going when they pass?

You said you knew.

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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs..yuk.

A racist bigot said "implying brown is not as bad as black."  Link
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Relax Aussie. I am not saying I agree with Folau. Just that everyone has heard it before.



no need to back down FD. You should grow a set of balls and stand by your beliefs. You made the claim, now stick to it. Don't pretend you said something else when it is so plainly obvious what you said.
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Reply #12 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:04pm
 
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Where, Effendi?
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Reply #13 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:30pm
 
This is even stupider than when you 'caught' me saying that contracts are an invention.
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Reply #14 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:51pm
 
The difference between Falou and Yasmin?

She didn't rely on an invisible man in the sky to back up her argument.

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Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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