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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #75 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:23am:

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Ahh. We're in America's borders again.

And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.

That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ebf8cb52c77fde090f4fd80c945162e1/tenor.gif

So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #76 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:49am

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:23am:

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Ahh. We're in America's borders again.

And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.

That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ebf8cb52c77fde090f4fd80c945162e1/tenor.gif

So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.

You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #77 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:50am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

wiki- Islamic Terrorism

2000s-2010s[edit]
In the 18 years before 2019, there were 31221 attacks in which killed at least 146881 people and according to a reasearcher at University of St Andrews, Islamic terrorism was the most prolific form of non-state terrorism. Most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths were Muslims.

And Pecca is more worried about skinheads????

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Do you know what "killings" are, Jocko?

I'm curious.

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Reply #78 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

wiki- Islamic Terrorism

2000s-2010s[edit]
In the 18 years before 2019, there were 31221 attacks in which killed at least 146881 people and according to a reasearcher at University of St Andrews, Islamic terrorism was the most prolific form of non-state terrorism. Most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths were Muslims.

And Pecca is more worried about skinheads????

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Do you know what "killings" are, Jocko?

I'm curious.

Post up the deaths (from white supremacists) since 2001 to 2019 then we'll compare. If you don't post them then that tells me and us that you are full of crap.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145727 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #79 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:54am "Americans are being killed. "Murdered not for what they have done or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. "Slaughtered again and again because, whether Jewish, or black, or simply not "pure" white, they are seen as a pestilence to be purged." The rising number of deadly white supremacist attacks
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145727 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #80 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:59am "Far-right extremists are responsible for -- or suspected of - most of the ideological killings in America in the last 10 years".
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145727 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #81 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:08pm
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Reply #82 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

mothra wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:

https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/106/70/f4d615fd0b290a1d-2048x1024.jp...

Well he isn't 'White' now is he. Roll Eyes

He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. Wink

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0IypeKl9NJhPFMrK/giphy.gif

Yep. Even Dr. Phil would find this a new one.

Even Scientologists are all like:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/sauYjWmJJ18xW/giphy.gif?

Don't use Scientology/ists as a backup.

They're a fairly evil bunch of bastards.... especially to their own flock.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #83 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:11pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 10:51am:

Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah

The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dolla...

this could be bad news for some of our resident nutters Roll Eyes

don't leave yourself out there. Roll Eyes

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #84 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

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there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #86 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?

BS.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #87 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #88 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:23am:

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Ahh. We're in America's borders again.

And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.

That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ebf8cb52c77fde090f4fd80c945162e1/tenor.gif

The Muslim extremists in waiting in the US are carefully controlled by the security forces.. they got away with one once - now the dogs are awake... you should never confuse lack of action for lack of intent, or wish to act from inability to do so due to pressures to prevent you.

A survey at 5000 universities said that 99.8% of Muslims would jihadise if there were no laws against it... (fake news)....

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #89 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:20pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

You always need to be wary of these blank and unsupported statements - you need full information on the years covered etc... plus all the factors included in actual preventative measures...

Where is the list of all these thousands of people killed in the US by 'right wing extremists' - start with a definition of 'right wing extremist'.....

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