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A vision of a socialist Australia in 2050
Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:28am
 
Socialist utopia 2050: what could life in Australia be like after the failure of capitalism?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/17/socialist-utopia-2050-what-coul...

Two questions come to mind after reading the article:

- Who pays for it?
- Do you really think that Australia can remain economically competitive in the Asian region in such a society?
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People accuse Capitalism of being a "dog eat dog" system, yet it was the Communists who ate each other when they were starving!
 
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Re: A vision of a socialist Australia in 2050
Reply #1 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 11:19am
 
The more likely scenario is the failure of the global economy, due to the steadily awakening realisation by nations (though not their paid-for politicians) that the international corporate vultures are destroying national economies and identities and are steadily reducing everyone outside their group/class to a position of abject and begging poverty - beggars on the streets of employment.

What you will see then is a reversion to Nationalism and a combination of Socialism/Capitalism as once operated here in Australia, with overall national planning be directed towards genuine prosperity for all - or at least the chance of overall prosperity again through genuine opportunity, participation and work.

This is unlikely to be any extreme of either left or right, but the usual rather benign somewhere near the centre - so a 'socialist' Australia of the kind that is socialist first and foremost is highly unlikely, and certainly will be nothing like a controlled economy and social life as pertains in ULTRA-Socialist nations such as China and so forth, and especially the likes of North Korea etc (with which comparisons are meaningless).

Payment for an effective combined national socialist operation comes from economic viability - something very haphazard at this time in Australia - and is a simple by-product of prosperity for the nation and people (as opposed to extreme prosperity for some amorphous and shadowy band of ultra-capitalist thieves in Offshore).

The question is whether or not Asian countries can compete with the West once a genuine level playing field has been restored.  The current reality is that many Asian countries are undergoing huge rises in wage costs annually, and are increasingly splintering due to social and economic inequities into the same as the West once was (the 'war' between capital and labour and all dispossessed groups at the revolutionary end of the stick) - and that eventually Asian labour costs will equal or even exceed Western ones - and the whole Carousel of Life comes around again, with various economies going up in the spiral at age thirty or so.....

Better to Lock the Gates NOW and preserve your own nation and people and descendants first and foremost... nobody else will.

ADDS:-  the bizarre reality is that it is those who most ardently activate against any 'socialism' who are in reality the progenitors and forerunners of a controlled society - by reducing the majority to begging on the streets of employment while (their) few prosper, they are sowing the seeds of future massive change to control, as history clearly shows us - but somehow that simple reality defeats their understanding and they assume that they will always be able to prosper regardless of how the majority fare. Never happened yet and never will.....
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