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Message started by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am

Title: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am
Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said  Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah


The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views  while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dollar41-million-from-neo-nazi-andrew-anglin-for-isis-smear/?fbclid=IwAR1BvVkrgE21YvONOvItc2ZPh2mgHROZs_upDNOW_E6z8nT2MYPv1FqRlK8

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am

Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:02am
Good advice, Everclear.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




No surprises on the choice of hat.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:20am

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




No surprises on the choice of hat.


He's certifiable.  Seriously.

He believes in the existence of reptilian humanoids.

He has said that "By the Grace of God, I found Adolf Hitler".

He believes that women, brown people, and Jews are the cause of all the world's problems.

And, after the alleged child rapist won the 2016 U.S. presidential election, he called on his site's readers (Good morning Herbert, if you're reading this) to use non-violent intimidation to make "brown people" feel unwelcome in America, and to goad disappointed supporters of Clinton into committing suicide.

I wonder how many forum members here subscribe to *The Daily Stormer.



*an American neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and Holocaust denial commentary and message board website that advocates for the genocide of Jews.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by .JaSin. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am
Ozpolitic denizen Haji Gordon could be sued by Blacks, Lebanese, Mexicans and Indians.

Truth is not a defense in libel cases. Intent is the measure of the offense.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:30am

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.




... ok

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by .JaSin. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:20am:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




No surprises on the choice of hat.


He's certifiable.  Seriously.

He believes in the existence of reptilian humanoids.

He has said that "By the Grace of God, I found Adolf Hitler".

He believes that women, brown people, and Jews are the cause of all the world's problems.

And, after the alleged child rapist won the 2016 U.S. presidential election, he called on his site's readers (Good morning Herbert, if you're reading this) to use non-violent intimidation to make "brown people" feel unwelcome in America, and to goad disappointed supporters of Clinton into committing suicide.

I wonder how many forum members here subscribe to *The Daily Stormer.



*an American neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and Holocaust denial commentary and message board website that advocates for the genocide of Jews.


Jews were doing that for 2000 years in Europe - to make sure the Europeans didn't go to the Middle-East: it was called Judaism. While the Moslems attacked Europe from the outside with 'Military Empire'. When North America (USA) became a light in the world, Germany turned on the Jews whose 'Religion' (and the Christianity that came from it) was now a 2000 year 'lie' and broke their Christian Cross as the Swastika to kick the Jews out of the (Garden of Eden) Europe like a sin.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by .JaSin. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:30am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.




... ok


You need to go back to TV Media land Mothra if you can't make the translation to the Internet. Do not pass Go and do not collect $200. But thanks for trying. Go now - there's a good girl.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.






Yep. Even Dr. Phil would find this a new one.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by .JaSin. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:42am

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.






Yep. Even Dr. Phil would find this a new one.

Yes, yes. Go have a talk to your Dr Phil about me. I'm sure he would find you absolutely fascinating.  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:47am

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.






Yep. Even Dr. Phil would find this a new one.


Even Scientologists are all like:


https://media2.giphy.com/media/sauYjWmJJ18xW/giphy.gif?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am
white identity politics is an understandable response to the identity politics of the left.
but its a mistake to go there.

angry, unhinged lefties might join anti fa and on the right , angry unhinged righties might join a neo nazi group.

understandable, people have a default emotional state and if you are angry and frustrated all the time, you will become bitter, unhinged and nasty.

there is a path out of this 'hell' for the left. they can go and hand out food parcels to the poor, they can go dig a well in africa. but they need to do this without bragging about it or else it becomes about 'them and their ego".  most wont do it. they would rather spend their time as keyboard warriors like gweg (compassion masking uselessness).

there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession and then you align all your thoughts words and actions to building that business or mastering that skill.
now, you are absorbed in something that is seeing you become "all that you can be" and you move up.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:





But the West is just as bad as the Nazis.....according to you. So you are just like the "twerp" in the picture.

Nazi kill Jews.
West kill Nazis.

West is as bad as the Nazi.....according to your twisted mind.  ::)

Pecca the Nazi....who'd have thought.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by .JaSin. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:08pm
Don't worry Peckerhead, we all know that you know how Scientologists (Atheists) think. ;)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:19pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:





So you are just like the "twerp" in the picture.



Polar opposites.

He's driven by irrational fear, ignorance, and hatred.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?






https://muckrack.com/scott-pham/articles
Articles by Scott Pham on Muck Rack. Find Scott Pham's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more.


muckrake   ;D ;D.
leftie journalists  ;D ;D
being a leftie journalist is the consolation prize for being a failure

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?






https://muckrack.com/scott-pham/articles
Articles by Scott Pham on Muck Rack. Find Scott Pham's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more.


muckrake   ;D ;D.
leftie journalists  ;D ;D
being a leftie journalist is the consolation prize for being a failure


Shooting the messenger now.

You right-wing extremists will shoot anyone.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:40pm

“These defendants planned to ruthlessly bomb an apartment complex and kill innocent people, simply because of who they are and how they worship," said FBI Director Wray. “Today, together with our law enforcement partners, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting all people in our communities from those who seek to terrorize and do harm."

Three Southwest Kansas Men Sentenced to Prison for Plotting to Bomb Somali Immigrants in Garden City


“Some people have described this prosecution as a civil rights case, a domestic terrorism case or even a violent crime case,” said U.S. Attorney Stephen McAllister of the District of Kansas. “However you look at it, it is a violation of everything we stand for in America, equal rights, public safety and respect for law.”



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:19pm
Yet 362 people throughout the world have died so far THIS MONTH in the name of Islam.....and many more injured. 

Sad that you deflect from this pecca. Very sad indeed.
Although you do feel kiddy killers deserve rights too so no doubt you're in the same mind frame for your muzzie mates.

No point taking pics of the perps....you know what they look like don't you? One stares back at you every morning in the mirror.  ;)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?






https://muckrack.com/scott-pham/articles
Articles by Scott Pham on Muck Rack. Find Scott Pham's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more.


muckrake   ;D ;D.
leftie journalists  ;D ;D
being a leftie journalist is the consolation prize for being a failure


Shooting the messenger now.

You right-wing extremists will shoot anyone.





your "source" ....muckrake.com   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:48pm
good grief, now gwegs pulling pics from the huffington post  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:48pm:
good grief, now gwegs pulling pics from the huffington post  :D :D :D


Desperate times call for desperate measures.

If he can find that Fred Blogs from upper Worthington likes muzzos and don't believe tgat they are terrorists.
Even though Fred has never met a muzzo in his life and never been out of upper Worthington

Turd mc turdface will use him as a credible source.

Clutching at straws

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
“These defendants planned to ruthlessly bomb an apartment complex and kill innocent people, simply because of who they are and how they worship," said FBI Director Wray. “Today, together with our law enforcement partners, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting all people in our communities from those who seek to terrorize and do harm."

Three Southwest Kansas Men Sentenced to Prison for Plotting to Bomb Somali Immigrants in Garden City


“Some people have described this prosecution as a civil rights case, a domestic terrorism case or even a violent crime case,” said U.S. Attorney Stephen McAllister of the District of Kansas. “However you look at it, it is a violation of everything we stand for in America, equal rights, public safety and respect for law.”




aquascoot, Valkie, Captain Caveman.

Who else will step forward to defend these terrorists?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by rhino on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:00pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am:
Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said  Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah


The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views  while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dollar41-million-from-neo-nazi-andrew-anglin-for-isis-smear/?fbclid=IwAR1BvVkrgE21YvONOvItc2ZPh2mgHROZs_upDNOW_E6z8nT2MYPv1FqRlK8



this could be bad news for some of our resident nutters ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
“These defendants planned to ruthlessly bomb an apartment complex and kill innocent people, simply because of who they are and how they worship," said FBI Director Wray. “Today, together with our law enforcement partners, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting all people in our communities from those who seek to terrorize and do harm."

Three Southwest Kansas Men Sentenced to Prison for Plotting to Bomb Somali Immigrants in Garden City


“Some people have described this prosecution as a civil rights case, a domestic terrorism case or even a violent crime case,” said U.S. Attorney Stephen McAllister of the District of Kansas. “However you look at it, it is a violation of everything we stand for in America, equal rights, public safety and respect for law.”




aquascoot, Valkie, Captain Caveman.

Who else will step forward to defend these terrorists?

I'm curious.


And now Rhino.

Why do so many Australians defend right-wing terrorists?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


I suppose these people all died from either inhaling the fumes from the spray-paint cans, or drowning from all the water in those water balloons:

"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US, while other right-wing and left-wing violence made up more than 80 percent of the attacks."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


I suppose these people all died from either inhaling the fumes from the spray-paint cans, or drowning from all the water in those water balloons:

"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US, while other right-wing and left-wing violence made up more than 80 percent of the attacks."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda


Oh dear - more deaths from graffiti:

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda

"According to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, 71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence.

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,” wrote Janet Reitman.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:13pm
362 people so far for the month of June 2019 have lost their lives to Islamic terror.
That is disgusting. What's worse is we have a bloke on here that will deflect from those figures with a water bomber or spray painter terrorist that I apparently defend.
Post up the stories pecca, like I have asked for several times over several threads. How can I defend them if I know nothing of them.
Why can't you post the stories?
I don't want a colorful little propaganda graph....I WANT THE STORIES!

I bet you can't post 15 articles of right wing terror that have accured this month.






Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:16pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:13pm:
362 people so far for the month of June 2019 have lost their lives to Islamic terror.
That is disgusting. What's worse is we have a bloke on here that will deflect from those figures with a water bomber or spray painter terrorist that I apparently defend.
Post up the stories pecca, like I have asked for several times over several threads. How can I defend them if I know nothing of them.
Why can't you post the stories?
I don't want a colorful little propaganda graph....I WANT THE STORIES!

I bet you can't post 15 articles of right wing terror that have accured this month.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why are so many forum members defending these terrorists?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:27pm
Convienently,  the millions of Christians, Buddhists,  fellow muzzos, and Jews have been and are still being murdered by this CULT of DEATH around the world.

But the sychophant, apologist, islamophile cherry picks from
Oh
A small selection, so he can "prove" that muzzos are not the murdering scum that they are.

The world is beginning to wake up
Human beings are beginning to see the CULT OF DEATH for what it really is

Despite the lies, machinations twisted facts and islamophile sychophants screams, normal human beings will eventually rise and rid ourselves of the filth.
Drive them back to the he'll hole from where they crawled and let them wipe each other out until the CULT OF DEATH is nothing but a bad dream.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:42pm
Pecca was blaming bikies for islamic terrorism  yesterday???

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Pecca was blaming bikies for islamic terrorism  yesterday???


Yes I saw that. Muslims are giving bikies a bad name too.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


So everywhere except where they are active?

Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam? What is so special about Islam that you feel the need to sacrifice your dignity for it?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


So everywhere except where they are active?

Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam? What is so special about Islam that you feel the need to sacrifice your dignity for it?


Good to see you finally admitting that they aren't active in the countries I mentioned.

Now we can all concentrate on the real threat to modern society: far-right, white supremacist terrorists.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:06pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


So, Islam not the greatest threat to freedom and democracy then. I had hope you'd get there in the end.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by aquascoot on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:13pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


So everywhere except where they are active?

Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam? What is so special about Islam that you feel the need to sacrifice your dignity for it?



in general islam isnt doing too well.
the palestinians look permanently angry and sad.
al queda have to live in caves
the chinese are bullying their muslims.
putin gives them hell.
in the middle east , the sunnis and the shia are always butchering each other.

its chaos, despair, hopelessness, nihilism , anguish and a living hell.

the mind of the intellectual elite leftie is similarly tortured.
the intellectual elite leftie thinks he's really smart.
but then a guy like trump flies by in his chopper and the intellectual elite leftie is stuck in his dam prius

that makes him hopeless, despairing , nihilistic and pissed.

he is in the same "vibration" as the muslim world.
he relates to it.
they are fellow travellers.
they are emotional bedfellows

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:27pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


he must be delirious, either that or you used some sort of trickery  ...


i don't believe he would knowingly and willingly have ever written that ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:27pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


he must be delirious, either that or you used some sort of trickery  ...


i don't believe he would knowingly and willingly have ever written that ::)


Check it out:


freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


So everywhere except where they are active?

Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam? What is so special about Islam that you feel the need to sacrifice your dignity for it?



Can't be much of a threat if they're not active here, now can they.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....



Why is that and what have they told you?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:33pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....


so they should


hopefully they're keeping tabs on all the other loonies out there as well

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....



Why is that and what have they told you?


They invited me to work for them ..... of course I do not... and even if I said I did, not one soul on earth would believe me, but then again, even if I said I didn't, not one soul in the world would believe me once invited in. An old Digger mate said at the time that nobody would ever trust me again.

Nobody will ever know what you do for a living - and the purest beauty of it is that even if you say what you do for a living - nobody will believe you, but they will never trust your denials.  8-)

For all FD knows, I could be a plant in OzPol to monitor youse guys...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:36pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....


so they should


hopefully they're keeping tabs on all the other loonies out there as well


They're not worried about John Smiths... but the use of a generic name raises a red flag....

Good to see you support my point below....  8-)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:39pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...


When you stop referring to entire groups by harmful stereotypes and offensive pejoratives whilst crying like a spanked child whenever a demographic representing you is mentioned, you do not have the right to lecture me.

You are far from a reasonable adviser.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:39pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
For all FD knows, I could be a plant in OzPol to monitor youse guys.



yeah ... cause no one else can read what's written here, right?  :D :D :D


Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:36pm:
They're not worried about John Smiths..


nor should they be.


Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:36pm:
but the use of a generic name raises a red flag....


i had the same suggestion put to me when i had to paint Goulburn police station and it's cells many years ago. To quote the copper running the background checks ''how many of you buggers are out there?'  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:43pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....


so they should


hopefully they're keeping tabs on all the other loonies out there as well



Lunatics like you, need to be watched.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:44pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...


And din't tell me. Tell FD who is the one going on about Islam.

Chickenshit.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....


so they should


hopefully they're keeping tabs on all the other loonies out there as well



Lunatics like you, need to be watched.



next time, you should have someone explain what the word means BEFORE you use it in a sentence

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
ASIO know my name and address.... I can phone them and they know who it is....



Why is that and what have they told you?


They invited me to work for them ..... of course I do not... and even if I said I did, not one soul on earth would believe me, but then again, even if I said I didn't, not one soul in the world would believe me once invited in. An old Digger mate said at the time that nobody would ever trust me again.

Nobody will ever know what you do for a living - and the purest beauty of it is that even if you say what you do for a living - nobody will believe you, but they will never trust your denials.  8-)

For all FD knows, I could be a plant in OzPol to monitor youse guys...



What else do you know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUli26IMAfA

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:11pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...


And din't tell me. Tell FD who is the one going on about Islam.

Chickenshit.


No idea what you're talking about...  I'm here to discuss - not play dobbing games etc and 'Spiteful Little Playground" ... I'm setting us all on the same page so open discussion of Islam, and Islamism can be carried on without confusing the two...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:13pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:11pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...


And din't tell me. Tell FD who is the one going on about Islam.

Chickenshit.


No idea what you're talking about...  I'm here to discuss - not play dobbing games etc and 'Spiteful Little Playground" ... I'm setting us all on the same page so open discussion of Islam, and Islamism can be carried on without confusing the two...



Glad to see you've learned. God knows i've been telling you long enough.

Now try to apply it to the rest of your behaviour.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:21pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:11pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
The reality is, people could take you to court over posts written here on Ozpolitic.



True, but it's more likely FD could be up for the high-jump for some of the content he allows on here.

The buck ultimately stops with him.



careful, fd will ban you for another year  ;D ;D ;D


He's just admitted that Islam isn't the greatest threat to democracy and freedom. Then run away.

I doubt he'll read this thread again.


Only to human life and civilisation.... Islamism is..... please do not use the terms 'Muslim' and 'Islam' when discussing the negative aspects of certain strains of Islam as distorted by a few... there is a difference in definition between Islam and Islamism, and between Islamic and Islamist, in the intelligence and counter-terrorism world, that is...


Buggered if i know what you're telling me for. Attention i suppose.


Just making sure you stick to the guidelines of discussion... did the same last night with some other(s)...


And din't tell me. Tell FD who is the one going on about Islam.

Chickenshit.


No idea what you're talking about...  I'm here to discuss - not play dobbing games etc and 'Spiteful Little Playground" ... I'm setting us all on the same page so open discussion of Islam, and Islamism can be carried on without confusing the two...



Glad to see you've learned. God knows i've been telling you long enough.

Now try to apply it to the rest of your behaviour.


Having studied terrorism/counter-terrorism etc, I've always been aware of the difference between Islam and Islamism - as my countless posts clearly show.

Now when it comes to feminist and feminism....... or ethnic and ethnicism... perhaps you need to try that homework I set (due 18th June) and posted on OzPol, and perhaps include a dissertation on Fifth Columns in Oz at this time...

The truth fully studied will surprise and shock you....

As for Islam and Islamism - I merely thought it was time for all to be sure what they are discussing, and sometimes accusing someone of being anti-Islam when they are in fact anti-Islamist is as bad a sin as that of the one making that first mistake..

In that case perhaps the critic needs to review their own interpretation of what is said in the light of the knowledge or otherwise of the sayer...  just saying... a mature person seeks to interpret on the basis of date received rather than on actual words used* when dealing with those not steeped in the learning of the subject - an intellectual autist seeks black and white without first defining terms.

* never listen to how a person says something - but what they say, ain' no thang ....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:24pm
Ignoring your ludicrous grandiosity, yet again, i'll just repost this. Seriously not worth typing it out again.


mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:39pm:
When you stop referring to entire groups by harmful stereotypes and offensive pejoratives whilst crying like a spanked child whenever a demographic representing you is mentioned, you do not have the right to lecture me.

You are far from a reasonable adviser.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:13pm:
362 people so far for the month of June 2019 have lost their lives to Islamic terror.
That is disgusting. What's worse is we have a bloke on here that will deflect from those figures with a water bomber or spray painter terrorist that I apparently defend.
Post up the stories pecca, like I have asked for several times over several threads. How can I defend them if I know nothing of them.
Why can't you post the stories?
I don't want a colorful little propaganda graph....I WANT THE STORIES!

I bet you can't post 15 articles of right wing terror that have accured this month.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why are so many forum members defending these terrorists?



Ahh. We're in America's borders again. I see. Thats the land where blacks kill more people than any other color.  ::)
Not concerned about that either hey. I guess if the 362 people killed this month at the hands of Islam is not a concern then neither are the blacks.

So you don't care about lives lost,  just about TRYING HARD....AND NOT SUCCEEDING  ;D.....TO EQUAL THE ARGUMENT.

Why do you hate whites so much? People like you are on the cops radar for sure.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:28am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again. I see.

Yes.

This thread is about neo-Nazis in America.


Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:17am:
So you don't care about lives lost,  

I certainly do care.

I want it to stop.

How do you suggest we stop those white supremacists who are doing most of the killing?

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:31am
I think Greg must just enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:41am
wiki- Islamic Terrorism

2000s-2010s[edit]
In the 18 years before 2019, there were 31221 attacks in which killed at least 146881 people and according to a reasearcher at University of St Andrews, Islamic terrorism was the most prolific form of non-state terrorism. Most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths were Muslims.


And Pecca is more worried about skinheads????

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:49am

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.


You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:50am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:41am:
wiki- Islamic Terrorism

2000s-2010s[edit]
In the 18 years before 2019, there were 31221 attacks in which killed at least 146881 people and according to a reasearcher at University of St Andrews, Islamic terrorism was the most prolific form of non-state terrorism. Most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths were Muslims.


And Pecca is more worried about skinheads????


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Do you know what "killings" are, Jocko?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:41am:
wiki- Islamic Terrorism

2000s-2010s[edit]
In the 18 years before 2019, there were 31221 attacks in which killed at least 146881 people and according to a reasearcher at University of St Andrews, Islamic terrorism was the most prolific form of non-state terrorism. Most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths were Muslims.


And Pecca is more worried about skinheads????


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Do you know what "killings" are, Jocko?

I'm curious.

Post up the deaths (from white supremacists)  since 2001 to 2019 then we'll compare. If you don't post them then that tells me and us that you are full of crap.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:54am

"Americans are being killed.

"Murdered not for what they have done or being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

"Slaughtered again and again because, whether Jewish, or black, or simply not "pure" white, they are seen as a pestilence to be purged."


The rising number of deadly white supremacist attacks

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:59am

"Far-right extremists are responsible for -- or suspected of - most of the ideological killings in America in the last 10 years".


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:08pm

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:47am:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




Well he isn't 'White' now is he.  ::)
He's a little light-skinned Blue Brunette.
White Men have 'Blonde' hair and 'white' skin.
White Men are not Pale-skinned and Raven-haired Greys, nor are they Fair-skinned and Ranga-haired Reds either.

I blame the Media for the Neo-Nazi's.
Because that's the Medium for the Blues & Greys.
Whites and Reds prefer the Internet. ;)

Here's the catch.
Nazism 'failed' in Europe because it was with violence and War.
But here in North America, the 'Aryan' superior 'male' race thingy will succeed. The Blonde 'Aryan' White in Europe is just a Labourer. Here in North America, he is an Academic and the future 'Greatest' President of the White Truth of Justice and his surname will be GORDON - the most respected and praised Anglo name in Africa.

The Nazism chant for the 'Aryan' will succeed in North America, because what fails in one Region, succeeds in another.
For it will be the Jews of North America that will be the 'aggressor' to the Neo-Nazis.






Yep. Even Dr. Phil would find this a new one.


Even Scientologists are all like:


https://media2.giphy.com/media/sauYjWmJJ18xW/giphy.gif?


Don't use Scientology/ists as a backup.

They're a fairly evil bunch of bastards.... especially to their own flock.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:11pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am:
Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said  Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah


The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views  while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dollar41-million-from-neo-nazi-andrew-anglin-for-isis-smear/?fbclid=IwAR1BvVkrgE21YvONOvItc2ZPh2mgHROZs_upDNOW_E6z8nT2MYPv1FqRlK8



this could be bad news for some of our resident nutters ::)


;D don't leave yourself out there.  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:15pm

White supremacist murders in the US "more than doubled in 2017," with far-right extremist groups and white supremacists "responsible for 59% of all extremist-related fatalities in the US in 2017,"

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?


BS.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



The Muslim extremists in waiting in the US are carefully controlled by the security forces.. they got away with one once - now the dogs are awake... you should never confuse lack of action for lack of intent, or wish to act from inability to do so due to pressures to prevent you.

A survey at 5000 universities said that 99.8% of Muslims would jihadise if there were no laws against it... (fake news)....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:20pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


You always need to be wary of these blank and unsupported statements - you need full information on the years covered etc... plus all the factors included in actual preventative measures...

Where is the list of all these thousands of people killed in the US by 'right wing extremists' - start with a definition of 'right wing extremist'.....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


You always need to be wary of these blank and unsupported statements - you need full information on the years covered etc... plus all the factors included in actual preventative measures...

Where is the list of all these thousands of people killed in the US by 'right wing extremists' - start with a definition of 'right wing extremist'.....



::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.


You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?


I did not say I don't believe the FBI data. I believe you are being very selective with it to lie or to mock the victims of Islamic terrorism.

You are selecting by time period and geography, as well as selecting Islamic terrorism by group in a way you do not for white supremacism.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:26pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


He's almost there  :)


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:08pm:


Fair way shy of the tally by Islamic terrorists.

The first graph you posted above this one had a total of 50 deaths spread across 4 types of extremism.

All US relevant data .... and not global.

The 300 odd in your last graph is nowhere near the 100,000 plus globally down to Islamic extremists in a similar time frame.

You're cherry picking just doesn't cut it in trying to prove your point. 

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics. You are basically comparing Islam with everything else. If you identified other terrorist movements the way you do with Islam, then Islam would be on the top of the list.

This has all been explained to you before, but you are either too thick to understand or actually want to mislead people or mock the victims of Islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.


You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?


I did not say I don't believe the FBI data. I believe you are being very selective with it to lie or to mock the victims of Islamic terrorism.

You are selecting by time period and geography, as well as selecting Islamic terrorism by group in a way you do not for white supremacism.



I believe you are mocking the victims of right wing extremism. By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.

Why are you choosing to ignore, nay minimise and refute the victims of right wing extremism in the West? Mock them, even.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:08pm:


Fair way shy of the tally by Islamic terrorists.


78 is more than 2.

Year nine maths, innit?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.


You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?


I did not say I don't believe the FBI data. I believe you are being very selective with it to lie or to mock the victims of Islamic terrorism.

You are selecting by time period and geography, as well as selecting Islamic terrorism by group in a way you do not for white supremacism.



I believe you are mocking the victims of right wing extremism. By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.

Why are you choosing to ignore, nay minimise and refute the victims of right wing extremism in the West? Mock them, even.


Again you lie. Where did I say that?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.   

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.


That's the whole point, FD.

The Muslims aren't very active at all - it's the white supremacists who are doing most of the killing.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

I guess the fumes from those spray-paint cans must be pretty lethal.



So why limit your stats to only two Muslim terrorist organisations?

If your answer is anything other than because you are lying or enjoy mocking the victims of Islamic terrorism, you should say.


You're shooting the messenger again, FD.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Why don't you believe the FBI?


I did not say I don't believe the FBI data. I believe you are being very selective with it to lie or to mock the victims of Islamic terrorism.

You are selecting by time period and geography, as well as selecting Islamic terrorism by group in a way you do not for white supremacism.



I believe you are mocking the victims of right wing extremism. By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.

Why are you choosing to ignore, nay minimise and refute the victims of right wing extremism in the West? Mock them, even.


Again you lie. Where did I say that?


I never lie. I don't need to:


freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.

Why do you feel the need to lie in defense of Islam?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.   


Go you freedom fighters, yeah?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm
You lied Mothra.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.


Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


;D The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:
I never lie. I don't need to:


You lied Mothra. Or are you using Islam- inspired self delusion as a defense?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm
N
freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?



Barely active, no?

And who are the freedom fighters, FD?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.


Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.


Why should I read the report?

Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:38pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


;D The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. ::)


Ah.

Europol, and every law enforcement agency in Europe is lying.

I see.




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:39pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
N
freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You lied Mothra.


You said Islamic terrorists were barely active in the US. Right here:


freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


You are shifting the goal posts already Mothra. But you are still lying.

Are you using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:08pm:


Fair way shy of the tally by Islamic terrorists.


78 is more than 2.

Year nine maths, innit?




Yeah in context ... it was for 50 deaths.

50 compared to thousands

and a few hundred compared to hundreds of thousands

year 9 maths innit. ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:41pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:39pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:
N
freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You lied Mothra.


You said Islamic terrorists were barely active in the US. Right here:


freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?


You are shifting the goal posts already Mothra. But you are still lying.

Are you using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense?


Just copy and pasting your own words FD. From when you clearly said that Islamic terrorism was barely active in the US.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:41pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.


Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.


Why should I read the report?

Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.


You'll look less foolish.

By (incorrectly) repeating that "Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics", you're looking very silly indeed.

It also looks like you're defending non-Muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?




Are yours?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:43pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


;D The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. ::)


All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:44pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.   


Go you freedom fighters, yeah?


And what is your dog in the fight?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:45pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?




Are yours?


Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

;)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:46pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.   


Go you freedom fighters, yeah?


And what is your dog in the fight?


I don;t want to share a society with fascists.

I can't believe i'm actually having to delineate that.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:48pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?



So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.   


"In some ways, the precursors to the racist murders mirror those before foreign terrorist attacks. The radicalization, specifically online, is similar to those who pledge allegiance to ISIS or al Qaeda, experts say. One of the noticeable differences is these extremists are white.

"Timothy Caughman's murderer focused on his hatred for African American men before traveling to New York City and killing him.

"In the three weeks before Jackson attacked, he spent huge amounts of his days and nights online studying Nazism and extremism until he was apparently pushed over the edge, Vance said. Interracial dating was an "insurmountable problem," in his mind. He read obsessively about Dylann Roof, who killed nine black worshippers in Charleston in 2015, Vance said.

"The racial world war starts today," Jackson wrote in his manifesto, according to Vance. "Negroes are obviously first on the list for extermination."

"The gunman in Charleston and the Pittsburgh and Poway suspects all engaged in hateful speech online before taking their rage and turning it into deadly action.

"Officials acknowledge this pattern and it's one reason that Selim believes something can be done to stop these people who are sometimes categorized as untraceable "lone wolves."


'The new normal': Radicalized white men

This is why I keep a very close eye on people like Captain Caveman, Valkie, et al.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:54pm
Mothra lying:


mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.


Mothra attempting to shift the goal posts, but still lying:


mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:41pm:
From when you clearly said that Islamic terrorism was barely active in the US.


Mothra using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense:


mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?



So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.


Mothra are you trying to delude yourself, or prove my point with irony? I was explaining how the statistics are misleading, and you responded by being mislead.

Is there anyone here who defends Islam without outright lies or misleading statistics?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:56pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?



So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.


He did say they were barely active.

Sounds like an admission to me.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:56pm
Would you say, FD, given that you've agreed that Islamic terrorism is barely active in the US, that Islamic terrorism is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy of our time?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?



So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.


He did say they were barely active.

Sounds like an admission to me.


The backpedalling is tres amusing.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


;D The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. ::)


All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."


And what exactly have they done.

Except to cover up or deflect?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?




Are yours?


Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

;)


78% of 50.  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:26pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)


;D The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. ::)


All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."


And what exactly have they done.

Except to cover up or deflect?


They've helped to produce a well-researched, fact-based report that proves beyond all doubt that Jihadists were only responsible for 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe.




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:27pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?




Are yours?


Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

;)


78% of 50.  ::)


That's correct.

Why are you rolling your eyes?

Were you hoping for more deaths?

:o

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
Is there anyone here who defends Islam without outright lies or misleading statistics?


That's a good question, FD. Do you uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the Muselman?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?


Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?


Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.


Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

 


Are your eyes working today?




Are yours?


Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

;)


78% of 50.  ::)


That's correct.

Why are you rolling your eyes?

Were you hoping for more deaths?

:o


You know very well why.

and no I wasn't hoping for more ... did I say that I was?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:01am:
Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:




There are good and bad people on both sides, Greggery. FD's always said that.

Not the Muselman, of course. He's just bad. FD's referring more to our white supremacist friends.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:43pm

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am:
Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said  Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah


The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views  while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dollar41-million-from-neo-nazi-andrew-anglin-for-isis-smear/?fbclid=IwAR1BvVkrgE21YvONOvItc2ZPh2mgHROZs_upDNOW_E6z8nT2MYPv1FqRlK8


Wow. 4.1 million, eh?

I should try that. People always say I'm from ISIS.

I have no idea why.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:46pm
wrong thread

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Quote:
Ahh. We're in America's borders again.


And also limiting Islamic terrorism to two organisation that are barely active there. Greg is a one trick pony on this.



two organisations? making crap up again are you FD? tut, tut ....you'll never learn ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by rhino on Jun 14th, 2019 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


I suppose these people all died from either inhaling the fumes from the spray-paint cans, or drowning from all the water in those water balloons:

"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US, while other right-wing and left-wing violence made up more than 80 percent of the attacks."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda


Oh dear - more deaths from graffiti:

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda

"According to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, 71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence.

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,” wrote Janet Reitman.
ah,  so  the exclusion is that the stats are post 9/11,  the one attack in which Muslims killed over 3000 initally and many more since. This total from one single Muslim attack from which the death toll  far eclipsed the total number of terrorist deaths ever in the US from all sources is conveniently excluded. Gotcha  ;)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2019 at 8:19pm

rhino wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


I suppose these people all died from either inhaling the fumes from the spray-paint cans, or drowning from all the water in those water balloons:

"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US, while other right-wing and left-wing violence made up more than 80 percent of the attacks."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda


Oh dear - more deaths from graffiti:

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

Far-right violence now a bigger threat to the US than Daesh and Al Qaeda

"According to the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, 71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence.

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,” wrote Janet Reitman.
ah,  so  the exclusion is that the stats are post 9/11,  the one attack in which Muslims killed over 3000 initally and many more since. This total from one single Muslim attack from which the death toll  far eclipsed the total number of terrorist deaths ever in the US from all sources is conveniently excluded. Gotcha  ;)


That's correct.

I thought that was pretty clear to everyone.

This bit kind of gave it away:

"since September 11, 2001".

You're still not very good at this, are you?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:57am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 1:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:51am:
Daily Beast Contributor Wins $4.1 Million From Neo-Nazi for ISIS Smear

Dean Obeidallah was falsely accused of being behind a terrorist attack by The Daily Stormer, whose on-the-run founder just lost big in court.

After Dean Obeidallah wrote a Daily Beast article condemning President Trump’s approach to white supremacist terror in 2017, the neo-Nazi site The Daily Stormer website falsely accused Obeidallah of being behind an ISIS attack.

Now The Daily Stormer’s founder is being forced to pay him millions for the smear.

Obeidallah, a comedian and radio host, sued Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin for defamation, and on Wednesday a judge ordered Anglin to pay $4.1 million in damages.

“The judge apparently found what they did so atrocious he gave them the most he could in punitive damages,” Obeidallah told The Daily Beast.

He said he plans on giving the money to organizations that combat bigotry.

“This was never about collecting money. If I collect a penny from the Nazis, I’m not going to keep their money. I’m going to give it to organizations that fight hate and bigotry, the very groups Nazis despise.”

Anglin, who has been on the lam for more than a year, didn’t testify, although his father did. The ruling comes as the latest legal strike against Anglin, who is currently avoiding another lawsuit by a Jewish woman who received death threats after Anglin attacked her on his site.

In Obeidallah’s case, the harassment started after he wrote an article entitled, “Will Donald Trump Ever Say the Words ‘White Supremacist Terrorism’?”

“We already had three to four acts of violence, murders, by people who were self-proclaimed white supremacists. The thesis of my article was that, during his campaign Trump demanded we say ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ Why won’t he say the words ‘white supremacist terrorism?’ said  Obeidallah, who is Muslim.

“That got the eye of Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer who wrote an article the next day quoting my article and smearing me in the first line as an ISIS mastermind.”

“They fabricated tweets that looked real, that said I was involved in the Manchester bombing.”
— Dean Obeidallah


The doctored tweets appeared on the Stormer, a once-popular website that received approximately 3.18 million page views  while the article was active, according to Obeidallah’s lawsuit. (The Stormer lost significant standing after it was kicked off its old webhost.)

Stormer readers piled on, sending Obeidallah death threats. The attacks took a toll on him, he said. Whereas Obeidallah once had few reservations about meeting fans, he said he’s now more cautious about scheduling meet-ups with people who reach out online.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-beast-contributor-dean-obeidallah-wins-dollar41-million-from-neo-nazi-andrew-anglin-for-isis-smear/?fbclid=IwAR1BvVkrgE21YvONOvItc2ZPh2mgHROZs_upDNOW_E6z8nT2MYPv1FqRlK8


Wow. 4.1 million, eh?

I should try that. People always say I'm from ISIS.

I have no idea why.


Wow!  That's a serious terrorist act from an extreme right wing organisation - calling someone a terrorist!!

Tell greg quick before it goes off the boil in the media....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 12:36pm:
You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?



So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.


He did say they were barely active.

Sounds like an admission to me.


Barely active because they are not given the chance..... funny how that works.... in another arena it might be called Nazi-style control of a segment of the populace.... with this lot, it's called preventative medicine.....

Which do you prefer?

Hmmmm ..... (I raise these things for your consideration - not as some confirmed position of mine.. you must look at things from all angles to get near what might be the truth)...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:03am
I believe I asked for the actual number of deaths -anyone?  ANYONE?

Needed for comparison with .. say... 9/11?? (My daughter's birthday)....

I post this before I read it myself - to be fair:-

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09am
Let's look at this post 9/11 list:-

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/u-s-terrorist-attacks-fast-facts/index.html

"April 15, 2013 - Twin bomb blasts explode near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding at least 264. One suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, is killed in an encounter with police. His brother, suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is captured and charged with one count of using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death and one count of malicious destruction of property by means of an explosive device resulting in death. He is given the death penalty on June 25, 2015.

July 16, 2015 - Mohammad Abdulazeez opens fire on a military recruiting center and a Navy reserve facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing four US Marines and a Navy sailor. FBI Director James Comey later says Abdulazeez's actions were "motivated by foreign terrorist organization propaganda," adding that it's difficult to determine which terrorist group may have inspired him.
December 2, 2015 - Married couple Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik open fire on a holiday party taking place at Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, killing 14 people. Investigators believe the couple was self-radicalized.

June 12, 2016 - Omar Mateen, an American-born man who'd pledged allegiance to ISIS, kills 49 people and wounds others in a shooting spree at a gay nightclub in Orlando, the second-deadliest mass shooting in recent US history and the nation's worst terror attack since 9/11.

August 12, 2017 - One person is killed and 19 are injured when a speeding car slams into a throng of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a "Unite the Right" rally of white nationalists and other far right organizations was coordinated to protest the city's decision to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. James Alex Fields Jr., suspected of driving the deadly vehicle, is later indicted on 30 counts, including a hate crime resulting in death and bodily injury, and racially motivated violent interference with "federally protected activity" of using public streets. On September 14, 2017, President Donald Trump signs into law a congressional "joint resolution condemning the violence and domestic terrorist attack" that took place in Charlottesville.
October 31, 2017 - Eight people are killed and almost a dozen injured when a 29-year-old man in a rented pickup truck drives down a busy bicycle path near the World Trade Center in New York. The suspect has been identified as Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov. Authorities found a note near the truck used in the incident, claiming the attack was made in the name of ISIS, a senior law enforcement official says."


Now - where's my list of people killed by extreme right  wingers in the US.....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:22am
This might help - but for some strange reason the focus seems to be on Islamist terrorist attacks and not extreme anything else... can't figure that:-

https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_AmericanTerrorismDeaths_FactSheet_Nov2017.pdf

Fewer than 3300 total, and the 9/11-ers hold the record at over 2900 ... and (coughs) according to the other  lists, Islamist-inclined individuals hold the record for the majority of the rest.... certainly far out of keeping with their percentage in the population....

Lessee now ....

3277 - 196 (pre-9/11/2001) = 3081

9/11/2001 deaths acknowledged = 2908

Ergo post 9/11 deaths total =  173.

Muslims direct deaths (from the list below) = 64.

Remainder = 109.

Now can someone give a list of who killed who out of that 109?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

Now - Muslims are 1.1% of the US population - so out of 173, they should have proportionately been responsible for about 1.7 or so deaths post 9/11..... instead their total is 64.... not bad work for a 1.1% group in a society, and somewhere around 37%.

Anyone? ANYONE?  Anyone prepared to offer a view on which group is under the most scrutiny as potentially deadly?  And why that should be?  And how this scrutiny actually works against their being even worse at killing innocents abroad?

Now - where's my list of numbers killed by extremist white right wingers in the US?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:24am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09am:
Let's look at this post 9/11 list:-

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/u-s-terrorist-attacks-fast-facts/index.html

"April 15, 2013 - Twin bomb blasts explode near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding at least 264. One suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, is killed in an encounter with police. His brother, suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is captured and charged with one count of using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death and one count of malicious destruction of property by means of an explosive device resulting in death. He is given the death penalty on June 25, 2015.

July 16, 2015 - Mohammad Abdulazeez opens fire on a military recruiting center and a Navy reserve facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing four US Marines and a Navy sailor. FBI Director James Comey later says Abdulazeez's actions were "motivated by foreign terrorist organization propaganda," adding that it's difficult to determine which terrorist group may have inspired him.
December 2, 2015 - Married couple Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik open fire on a holiday party taking place at Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, killing 14 people. Investigators believe the couple was self-radicalized.

June 12, 2016 - Omar Mateen, an American-born man who'd pledged allegiance to ISIS, kills 49 people and wounds others in a shooting spree at a gay nightclub in Orlando, the second-deadliest mass shooting in recent US history and the nation's worst terror attack since 9/11.

August 12, 2017 - One person is killed and 19 are injured when a speeding car slams into a throng of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a "Unite the Right" rally of white nationalists and other far right organizations was coordinated to protest the city's decision to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. James Alex Fields Jr., suspected of driving the deadly vehicle, is later indicted on 30 counts, including a hate crime resulting in death and bodily injury, and racially motivated violent interference with "federally protected activity" of using public streets. On September 14, 2017, President Donald Trump signs into law a congressional "joint resolution condemning the violence and domestic terrorist attack" that took place in Charlottesville.
October 31, 2017 - Eight people are killed and almost a dozen injured when a 29-year-old man in a rented pickup truck drives down a busy bicycle path near the World Trade Center in New York. The suspect has been identified as Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov. Authorities found a note near the truck used in the incident, claiming the attack was made in the name of ISIS, a senior law enforcement official says."


Now - where's my list of people killed by extreme right  wingers in the US.....




Good luck. I've been asking the silly pecca for weeks on end to produce something....anything.
362 people killed in the name of Islam this month in over 50 different Islamic terrorist attacks around the globe and he posts something about Donald trump. Well pecca is trumped. He has nothing.
Apparently Google is no good unless he needs a graph....with pretty colors....written by some basement jack he so often shouts down. 🤔

This pecca bloke is a fool. He admits he is only "evening up the arguments". His very own one man band. 🤣🤣🤣

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:25am
Also, in the Europe stats that were posted, Islam was the only religious or ideological grouping to get it's own category, despite being a tiny minority of the population.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:26am
Damn - I missed one of those Muslim massacres - the actual total out of 173 post-9/11 is 79...

(reworks figures).....CLOSER TO 46% KILLED BY MUSLIMS.

Anyone?  Anyone? 1.1% of the population did 46% of terrorist deaths post 9/11 .... ANYONE?  Got an offer of why Muslim potential terrorists in the US are under such close scrutiny that they are 'hardly active'?


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:29am
And the NSW police force has a designated ME crime squad.

They made a killing with busting the Child Care rip off involving nearly a billion dollars & 1,000s of Muslim families. >:(

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:43am

Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:29am:
And the NSW police force has a designated ME crime squad.

They made a killing with busting the Child Care rip off involving nearly a billion dollars & 1,000s of Muslim families. >:(



And similar intense scrutiny of potential terrorists, such that they are 'scarcely active' here as well... now for the outlaw bikie gangs which are 'recruiting' from The Balkanese and from Muslims ... many of whom feel they have no obligation (the 1%-ers) to abide by the Law.  Kind of like these in-prison Muslim 'converts' who decide to become Muslims in order to self-justify their lack of obligation to abide by Crusader laws etc.... and even feel righteous in refusing to accept Crusader law .. a bit like those who refuse to accept Captain Cook laws....

Hmmmm .... Fifth Columns, anyone?  Do I need to formulate more homework for you all?  I don't really want to work that hard.... you CAN do it for yourselves, you know - my formulating homework for you is a form of spoon-feeding.... something that goes against my professorial instincts and personal values...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am:
"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Hmm - 54% of 173 post-9/11 deaths due to terrorism is hardly 'far more' than 46% by one single group, 1.1% of the population, and defined by a religious and cultural affiliation.... the others are hardly church-goers bound by a religion of conquest.

Where's the list of killings by extreme right wing organisations?  Who, BTW, receive a huge amount of scrutiny from the forces of law and intelligence etc.

What are these right wing groups?  Puerto Ricans seeking independence?  Cubans wasting Castroites?  A few South/Central Americans having it out on US territory?  The occasional religious person who blows up an abortion clinic?

Who ARE these people?

Come on, greg - I'm showing you the way to LEARNING - get with it and support your views.  do some genuine research and some genuine figures..... SHOW ME!

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:51am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am:
"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Hmm - 54% of 173 post-9/11 deaths due to terrorism is hardly 'far more' than 46% by one single group, 1.1% of the population, and defined by a religious and cultural affiliation.... the others are hardly church-goers bound by a religion of conquest.

Where's the list of killings by extreme right wing organisations?  Who, BTW, receive a huge amount of scrutiny from the forces of law and intelligence etc.

What are these right wing groups?  Puerto Ricans seeking independence?  Cubans wasting Castroites?  A few South/Central Americans having it out on US territory?  The occasional religious person who blows up an abortion clinic?

Who ARE these people?

Come on, greg - I'm showing you the way to LEARNING - get with it and support your views.  do some genuine research and some genuine figures..... SHOW ME!


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:58am
You are a bit late Grap, hes already been owned on this false data early on in the thread.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:21am
Is Islam the only religion in the US and European stats to get it's own category?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am
Are some of you ppl actually trying to day far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:36am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to day far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot


You tell us spot. Has anyone said that?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:36am

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:21am:
Is Islam the only religion in the US and European stats to get it's own category?



I think the Seventh Day Adventists  have a lot to answer for....at least they seem to appear in court a lot.....then theres Scientology......

were these "religions" invented i the USA...

only in AMERIKA ! :(

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to day far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot



well I am not   anything bloody extreme is todays problems... >:(

greg is only interested in how many acts..

I am interested in how many killed...for what purpose...

today a man goes off his head gets hole of a gun and shoot a lot of people......we never get the full story..
so its put down as a terrorist act...

he was probably thrown out by his wife...but we ignore that...

its an evil act has to be terrorist inspired...

does the end result matter   if its left or right??


what does it prove???...  more to the point what does it change????...

does it change how many are dead.....or wounded for life.....?  not that I am aware of.....

some people have a need to be right....its called point scoring or something like that.. ::)




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:
greg is only interested in how many acts..

I am interested in how many killed...


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:49pm

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:
greg is only interested in how many acts..

I am interested in how many killed...

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."


cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:
...for what purpose...

For not being white, cods.

White supremacists are killing people because of the colour of their skin.



"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US ..."


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2019 at 1:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:
greg is only interested in how many acts..

I am interested in how many killed...

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."


cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:
...for what purpose...

For not being white, cods.

White supremacists are killing people because of the colour of their skin.



"In 2017, there were 65 extremism-related incidents, which killed 95 people, and only seven attacks had been committed by Muslim-origin extremists, equaling slightly more than 10 percent of the attacks in the US ..."



Greggy,
are you an apologist for the huge number of Muslim terrorist incidents?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 2:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:51am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am:
"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Hmm - 54% of 173 post-9/11 deaths due to terrorism is hardly 'far more' than 46% by one single group, 1.1% of the population, and defined by a religious and cultural affiliation.... the others are hardly church-goers bound by a religion of conquest.

Where's the list of killings by extreme right wing organisations?  Who, BTW, receive a huge amount of scrutiny from the forces of law and intelligence etc.

What are these right wing groups?  Puerto Ricans seeking independence?  Cubans wasting Castroites?  A few South/Central Americans having it out on US territory?  The occasional religious person who blows up an abortion clinic?

Who ARE these people?

Come on, greg - I'm showing you the way to LEARNING - get with it and support your views.  do some genuine research and some genuine figures..... SHOW ME!


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Nothing to do with what I can or can't handle - I merely state the facts and figures.... YOU?  You repeat an unsupported quote, and refuse to offer facts and figures.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 2:37pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to day far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot



Not me - I merely cite the facts and support them.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 2:38pm

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:41am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to day far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot



well I am not   anything bloody extreme is todays problems... >:(

greg is only interested in how many acts..

I am interested in how many killed...for what purpose...

today a man goes off his head gets hole of a gun and shoot a lot of people......we never get the full story..
so its put down as a terrorist act...

he was probably thrown out by his wife...but we ignore that...

its an evil act has to be terrorist inspired...

does the end result matter   if its left or right??


what does it prove???...  more to the point what does it change????...

does it change how many are dead.....or wounded for life.....?  not that I am aware of.....

some people have a need to be right....its called point scoring or something like that.. ::)


Does that make school shooters etc 'white supremacists'?  That's the only way the figures would work ....   :-?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:51am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am:
"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Hmm - 54% of 173 post-9/11 deaths due to terrorism is hardly 'far more' than 46% by one single group, 1.1% of the population, and defined by a religious and cultural affiliation.... the others are hardly church-goers bound by a religion of conquest.

Where's the list of killings by extreme right wing organisations?  Who, BTW, receive a huge amount of scrutiny from the forces of law and intelligence etc.

What are these right wing groups?  Puerto Ricans seeking independence?  Cubans wasting Castroites?  A few South/Central Americans having it out on US territory?  The occasional religious person who blows up an abortion clinic?

Who ARE these people?

Come on, greg - I'm showing you the way to LEARNING - get with it and support your views.  do some genuine research and some genuine figures..... SHOW ME!


"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,”




Nothing to do with what I can or can't handle - I merely state the facts and figures.... YOU?  You repeat an unsupported quote, and refuse to offer facts and figures.


With all due respect, you're a smacking idiot.

I've been providing facts and figures for years.

You, and your fellow apologists for right-wing terrorism, just don't want to accept them though.

Facts & figures:

"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence."

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:07pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:29am:
And the NSW police force has a designated ME crime squad.

They made a killing with busting the Child Care rip off involving nearly a billion dollars & 1,000s of Muslim families. >:(



that is largely to deal with the Lebanese gangs .... you realise that many of the Lebanese migrants that came here are Christian, right?  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:09pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to say far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot


That's exactly what they're saying.

Because they don't see it on the 6 o'clock news, they don't believe it's happening.

Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:10pm

Quote:
That's exactly what they're saying.


Can you quote them?

Were the statistics you posted earlier just lies you found on some dodgy website?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to say far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot


That's exactly what they're saying.

Because they don't see it on the 6 o'clock news, they don't believe it's happening.

Unbelievable.



Mate...if you can't post up any of the stories relating to your "according fbi" bullshyte then give up. Pretty simple.

I can give you 362 deaths in the name of Islam just this month.....where is your white supremacist stories, other than in your head?

The majority of Ozpols members think you're an idiot.....are you?  :-?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:41pm
that's right caveman .,... the fbi is making it all up. It's all part of a global conspiracy  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:22pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Are some of you ppl actually trying to say far right extremism isn't a serious problem?

Spot


That's exactly what they're saying.

Because they don't see it on the 6 o'clock news, they don't believe it's happening.

Unbelievable.



Mate...if you can't post up any of the stories relating to your "according fbi" bullshyte then give up. Pretty simple.

I can give you 362 deaths in the name of Islam just this month.....where is your white supremacist stories, other than in your head?

The majority of Ozpols members think you're an idiot.....are you?  :-?


Here we go....yet another who foolishly believes they speak for the majority.  Nah.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
that's right caveman .,... the fbi is making it all up. It's all part of a global conspiracy 


These apologists will say anything to hide the truth.

There's a very real chance that some of the white supremacist terrorists that authorities are keeping an eye on are members of this forum, so it's no surprise that we're seeing these ludicrous responses.

Even when I post official Europol reports, which prove that Islamic terrorism in Europe is the minority, they just refuse to believe it.

You'll never convince these idiots of the truth, because it scares them too much.

It's much easier for their pea-sized brains to believe that the dark man with a funny religion is their enemy, rather than believe the truth which is the enemy looks just like them.





Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.


so what part of Gregs comment was a lie then?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.


it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted.

how typical of right wing apologists


This is fake news, John:

"In an attack on March 15 that was broadcast live on Facebook, a lone gunman armed with semi-automatic weapons targeted Muslims attending Friday prayers in Christchurch, killing 51 worshippers and wounding dozens of people."

It never happened.  All a hoax, designed to create sympathy for Muslims.

Pathetic, isn't it?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:05pm
Blah blah blah blah blah....




Where's my links to the events??????
Bloody numpties the lot of ya's.  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:07pm
In Australia every single terrorist incident which occurred over the last 10 years (10 incidents) was perpetrated by Islamic jihadists.

Additional to this is the dozens of thwarted attacks by Islamic jihadists.

All by a group which represents only 2% of the population.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:07pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
Blah blah blah blah blah....




Where's my links to the events??????
Bloody numpties the lot of ya's. 


Do you have a poster of the Christchurch terrorist on your wall?


(and a box of tissues & hand lotion next to the bed)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:14pm

1 day ago:

"An expert has warned that the far-right poses a growing threat in the UK as figures revealed white extremists formed the largest proportion of terror arrests seen in 15 years."

Growing threat from far right as white extremists form largest proportion of terror arrests seen in 15 years


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:17pm

Does Three -Finger Haji - the apologist for white supremacist terrorism - have a poster of this animal on his beach-side toilet block wall?

"Self-confessed white supremacist accused of killing 51 people in two New Zealand mosques."

"New Zealand police have charged the Australian man accused of killing 51 people and wounding dozens of others in two Christchurch mosques in March with terrorism."





Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.


so what part of Gregs comment was a lie then?


His statistics.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:30pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.


so what part of Gregs comment was a lie then?


His statistics.


and you think it's a lie because?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:32pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.


so what part of Gregs comment was a lie then?


His statistics.


and you think it's a lie because?


For starters, they don't come from the FBI.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:33pm
AH love it. Post figures which unequivocally shows the major source of terrorism in Australia, and the only comeback is a personal attack means a white flag.

Once more for those that missed it.

100% of all terror incidents in Australia in the last 10 years was done by Muslims, who make up just 2% of the population.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Greg wasn't quoting from the FBI. He was quoting from some very dodgy looking websites.

Lies, typical of the Islamic apologists.



it's has also reported on reuters and The Washingtrom Post ... but i guess they're dodgy to, right FD?

Yet some unknown person writes something on a forum about islam and you're still quoting them ten years after they last posted. :D :D :D :D

how typical of right wing apologists


I'm sure something was reported. Just not Greg's lies.


so what part of Gregs comment was a lie then?


His statistics.


and you think it's a lie because?


For starters, they don't come from the FBI.


he's made 3 different claims, each with links to their sources ... 

The  first claim .. According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."  he quoted directly from the site, the writer of the article attributed his claims to the FBI, not Greg   

The second claim '"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence." he did not attributed to the FBI

and neither did he attribute the third to the FBI '“White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since September 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist,” .

Again, he gave a link to the source of each comment

is it Greg lying? or is it you lying by pretending their gregs lies?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm

Quote:
The  first claim .. According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."  he quoted directly from the site, the writer of the article attributed his claims to the FBI, not Greg   


Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?


Quote:
The second claim '"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence." he did not attributed to the FBI


Are you saying they were made up?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm
100%/2%

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?


What an excellent question. Gordy?

In fact, quite a few of you could have the same question asked of you. FD?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm
The FBI wouldn't provide specific numbers to quantify the increase of in the number of white supremacist domestic terrorism cases. Unlike international terrorism investigations, domestic terrorism cases pose thornier issues for the FBI because of First Amendment protections. The US doesn't have a domestic terrorism law and no government agency designates domestic groups as being terrorist organizations. That means many cases the FBI calls domestic terror-related end up with a variety of charges for violations of laws related to guns or even other state charges.



they are Amerikans talking about Amerika....

for gullible persons who live in Australia.. :)


almost all school or work related shootings or even dance halls.....are done by WHITE persons.....rat bags murderers thugs.. >:(

I will grant you but not FAR  RIGHT TERRORISTs  as such...


one person went mad at an antifa protest and drove into the crowd...he was loner...as far as I know no other person was involved....but he was a far righter....like the guy in Christchurch  a single nutter

whilst they do a lot of harm....they do it alone..

unlike organised terrorism...which is planned and delivered..

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:07pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?


What an excellent question. Gordy?

In fact, quite a few of you could have the same question asked of you. FD?


100%2%

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:09pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?


What an excellent question. Gordy?

In fact, quite a few of you could have the same question asked of you. FD?


100%2%


Christchurch.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:14pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?


so Greg lied because you haven't been able to verify the authors figures?  ;D ;D


freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Are you saying they were made up?


Where is Gregs lie? You said several times that he lied ...  I'm just tying to determine how you came to that conclusion ... are you saying Greg wrote those articles? Or perhaps his mistake was in providing you with a link to his source?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:14pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?


What an excellent question. Gordy?

In fact, quite a few of you could have the same question asked of you. FD?


You think maybe FD might take up the challenge?  ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?


so Greg lied because you haven't been able to verify the authors figures?  ;D ;D


freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Are you saying they were made up?


Where is Gregs lie? You said several times that he lied ...  I'm just tying to determine how you came to that conclusion ... are you saying Greg wrote those articles? Or perhaps his mistake was in providing you with a link to his source?


The stats were made up. The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture. Greg on the other hand responded with ducking and weaving. And repeating the lies, after it was pointed out to him that they were lies.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:17pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
If/when the same about of terror incidents can be attributed to Buddhists (also about 2% of the population) I'll become a Buddaphobe  ;D ;D ;D



I've no doubt that you will Geordie ... afterall, Buddhists are mostly tinted too, are they not?  why not move onto them next?

I have noticed however that no matter how many acts of terrorism, or thwarted attempts, by right wing extremists, you have never criticised them, let along considered becoming a 'rightwingaphobe'. Why is that?


What an excellent question. Gordy?

In fact, quite a few of you could have the same question asked of you. FD?


You think maybe FD might take up the challenge?  ;D


I'm still waiting for him to answer my last question. How can something that is a "barely active here" be the greatest threat to freedom and democracy. But alas. No reply.

What sound does a jellyfish make?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:21pm
Do prawns feel pain when their eyeballs are taken out?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?


so Greg lied because you haven't been able to verify the authors figures?  ;D ;D


freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:
Are you saying they were made up?


Where is Gregs lie? You said several times that he lied ...  I'm just tying to determine how you came to that conclusion ... are you saying Greg wrote those articles? Or perhaps his mistake was in providing you with a link to his source?


The stats were made up. The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture. Greg on the other hand responded with ducking and weaving. And repeating the lies, after it was pointed out to him that they were lies.



so you lied when you said Greg lied?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:23pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm:
The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture.



i must have missed those ... care to put them up?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm:
The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture.



i must have missed those ... care to put them up?



I'd be interested to know how the statistics, bare as they have been presented, could 'paint a completely different picture' to the one they paint themselves.

Are you on thereligionofpace again, FD?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:30pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm:
The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture.



i must have missed those ... care to put them up?



I'd be interested to know how the statistics, bare as they have been presented, could 'paint a completely different picture' to the one they paint themselves.

Are you on thereligionofpace again, FD?


ahh ... you saw them? got any idea where i should look? i missed them and I don't want to scroll through 14 pages looking for them

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:15pm:
The real FBI figures were posted by someone else and they paint a very different picture.



i must have missed those ... care to put them up?



I'd be interested to know how the statistics, bare as they have been presented, could 'paint a completely different picture' to the one they paint themselves.

Are you on thereligionofpace again, FD?


ahh ... you saw them? got any idea where i should look? i missed them and I don't want to scroll through 14 pages looking for them


No, just thinking like FD. How can stats making right wing extremism look like no threat and Muslims to look like a really big threat, despite them being "barely active here".

I just guessed where he'd go to find someone who'd done the legwork. I mean, to "paint the picture" of how stats, succinctly stated, really mean something else.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:07pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
Blah blah blah blah blah....




Where's my links to the events??????
Bloody numpties the lot of ya's. 


Do you have a poster of the Christchurch terrorist on your wall?


(and a box of tissues & hand lotion next to the bed)




So you have 1.
361 to go moron.....keeeeeeep tryin....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
1 day ago:

"An expert has warned that the far-right poses a growing threat in the UK as figures revealed white extremists formed the largest proportion of terror arrests seen in 15 years."

Growing threat from far right as white extremists form largest proportion of terror arrests seen in 15 years



Threat.....bwahahahahahaahhaha.

Where's the actual attacks.  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:17pm:
Does Three -Finger Haji - the apologist for white supremacist terrorism - have a poster of this animal on his beach-side toilet block wall?

"Self-confessed white supremacist accused of killing 51 people in two New Zealand mosques."

"New Zealand police have charged the Australian man accused of killing 51 people and wounding dozens of others in two Christchurch mosques in March with terrorism."



Still waaaaayyyyyy behind.

Keep tryin. 😉

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:38pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:33pm:
AH love it. Post figures which unequivocally shows the major source of terrorism in Australia, and the only comeback is a personal attack means a white flag.

Once more for those that missed it.

100% of all terror incidents in Australia in the last 10 years was done by Muslims, who make up just 2% of the population.




St opp telling the truth ffs.
👏👏👏

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?




You claim to have seen where Greg's stats paint a very different picture, FD.

Why are you leading your members on a merry dance?

Is it to try to deflect from the seriousness of right wing extremism?

Why would you do that?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

Quote:
The  first claim .. According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."  he quoted directly from the site, the writer of the article attributed his claims to the FBI, not Greg   


Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?

[quote]The second claim '"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence." he did not attributed to the FBI


Are you saying they were made up?[/quote]

Of course not.

As greg would say.    Google is your friend....🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.


So you haven't seen where Greg's stats "paint a very different picture'?

Why would you lie?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm

Quote:
you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


Not to mention....ban ban ban.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by rhino on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm
The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists.  If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they   are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.


Quote:
According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:
His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet.



on what basis have you determined that they are lies .... I mean apart from wishful thinking?

And since when is posting lies on the internet a banable offence?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:01pm

rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists.  If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they   are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.


Quote:
According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States


according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:04pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?


So many questions and no answers.  Very annoying isn't it Effendi.  Here's one for you...WHY DID YOU BAN PECCERRY?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?



Nope. Greg hasn't lied. He has procvided source for every single one of his claims.

You however, have claimed to have seen these very same statistics "paint a different picture" yet you won;t tell us where, just that you've seen it and that's enough.

Would it be safe to say that you are lying to discredit Greg to minimise the existence of right wing extremism? Is this because of your own ideology or the vies you allow to be expressed on your forum?

Or both?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:06pm
He's banned Greg? Oh that's pathetic.

I'm next i suppose.

Don't question the overlord.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists.  If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they   are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.


Quote:
According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States


according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. ;D ;D


No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:11pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm:
None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.


Show us then Effendi.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:20pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists.  If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they   are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.


Quote:
According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States


according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. ;D ;D


No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.



if you read the article they explain how they came to the figure.  The figures may be right, or they may be incorrect. Either way it's irrelevant. If you want to say they are incorrect, you need to give reason for saying so. Wishful thinking doesn't cut it.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:29pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
He's banned Greg? Oh that's pathetic.

I'm next i suppose.

Don't question the overlord.


Here's hoping.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists.  If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they   are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.


Quote:
According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States


according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. ;D ;D


No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.



if you read the article they explain how they came to the figure.  The figures may be right, or they may be incorrect. Either way it's irrelevant. If you want to say they are incorrect, you need to give reason for saying so. Wishful thinking doesn't cut it.


Which article? I managed to track down the supposed original source for one of the statistics, but they were not at the link provided.

Does the article say where the statistics are actually from?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Valkie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT.




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?



Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes


so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?






Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:57pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?



Nope. Greg hasn't lied. He has procvided source for every single one of his claims.

You however, have claimed to have seen these very same statistics "paint a different picture" yet you won;t tell us where, just that you've seen it and that's enough.

Would it be safe to say that you are lying to discredit Greg to minimise the existence of right wing extremism? Is this because of your own ideology or the vies you allow to be expressed on your forum?

Or both?



**coughs**  Certain others have posted figures and links that show a different picture... is there any genuine discussion available here - or just blind acceptance of one hyperbolic and apologist blog post?

54% of  killings by the rest of society (98.9%) in 'terrorist attacks' in no way compares to the other 46% of killings in 'terrorist attacks' by 1.1% of the population.

Not 'ard, eh?

List them and let us discuss each individually....... if they are indeed 'right wing extremists' - SHOW ME!  Dont just 'tell' me ......

Now before you get too carried away - greg posted '2008 to 2017' - I posted post 9/11/2001 to 2017 (I did not include 2900 or so killed by one group on 9/11).  MY figures show that 1.1% of the population carried out 46% of the terrorism related killings in the US....

WHO ARE THE OTHERS!!

Not hard....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:59pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?



Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes


so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?

Greg did not ask that question.  I did.  And......best not to abuse a Member's Family as that can get you a holiday.

So....to whom were you referring?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:59pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?



Nope. Greg hasn't lied. He has procvided source for every single one of his claims.

You however, have claimed to have seen these very same statistics "paint a different picture" yet you won;t tell us where, just that you've seen it and that's enough.

Would it be safe to say that you are lying to discredit Greg to minimise the existence of right wing extremism? Is this because of your own ideology or the vies you allow to be expressed on your forum?

Or both?



**coughs**  Certain others have posted figures and links that show a different picture... is there any genuine discussion available here - or just blind acceptance of one hyperbolic and apologist blog post?

54% of  killings by the rest of society (98.9%) in 'terrorist attacks' in no way compares to the other 46% of killings in 'terrorist attacks' by 1.1% of the population.

Not 'ard, eh?

List them and let us discuss each individually....... if they are indeed 'right wing extremists' - SHOW ME!  Dont just 'tell' me ......

Now before you get too carried away - greg posted '2008 to 2017' - I posted post 9/11/2001 to 2017 (I did not include 2900 or so killed by one group on 9/11).  MY figures show that 1.1% of the population carried out 46% of the terrorism related killings in the US....

WHO ARE THE OTHERS!!

Not hard....



Nice one  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:01pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?



Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes


so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?

Greg did not ask that question.  I did.  And......best not to abuse a Member's Family as that can get you a holiday.

So....to whom were you referring?




Do you lack comprehension or just trying to keep the thread going?

'feminists' is what I said

'feminists' is what I meant

Now how about you but out, unless you are a feminist.  And if you are a feminist, what's your opinion of female genital mutilation?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Valkie on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?



Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes


so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?


I'll tell you why

Because they know it's a battle they have zero chance of ever winning.

And they know that if they make too much noise, they will themselves become a target.

So, like cowards they hide and place their hands over their eyes and hum a little ditty while stating "it's not happening"

But this cowardice, this deliberate ignoring of women's pain and suffering belittles them, proves they are simply cowards who attack only the easy marks.

Just look at the meee tooooo movement
Many women attacking one man for perceived or fabricated abuse.

And yet muzzo women die, suffer and live in pain daily.
They don't care.

Feminists, cowards and pathetic virtue signallers that achieve nothing but causing disharmony between good men and good women.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:
Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties,



FD?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm
Let's try some more:-

"The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

This might help:-

https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

Shiessen-stirring excerpt for yez (come in spinners):-

"Most of these attacks either didn’t kill anyone or led to a small number of deaths. In September 2017, for example, Kenneth James Gleason, a white supremacist, was charged with shooting and killing Donald Smart, an African-American, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. A few attacks were more lethal. In June 2015, Dylann Roof opened fire with a Glock .45 caliber pistol on parishioners at Emanuel Africa Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine people. His motivations were racist, and he expressed his extremist beliefs on such websites as lastrhodesian.com."

The next passage refers to Timothy McVeigh (etc), but since greg stipulated 2008 -2017, and I only look back to post 9/11 - that was not included.

Very hard to find a definitive list..... I could keep searching for yez - but time for you to do some real work outside flapping your gums, you lot.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
Which article? I managed to track down the supposed original source for one of the statistics, but they were not at the link provided.

Does the article say where the statistics are actually from?



the article provides links to another article it used as it's source, in which they in turn explain how they came by the numbers

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:10pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:46pm:
Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT


Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?


To whom are you referring?



Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes


so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?


I'll tell you why

Because they know it's a battle they have zero chance of ever winning.

And they know that if they make too much noise, they will themselves become a target.

So, like cowards they hide and place their hands over their eyes and hum a little ditty while stating "it's not happening"

But this cowardice, this deliberate ignoring of women's pain and suffering belittles them, proves they are simply cowards who attack only the easy marks.

Just look at the meee tooooo movement
Many women attacking one man for perceived or fabricated abuse.

And yet muzzo women die, suffer and live in pain daily.
They don't care.

Feminists, cowards and pathetic virtue signallers that achieve nothing but causing disharmony between good men and good women.



Exactly




Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:11pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
Let's try some more:-

"The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

This might help:-

https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

Shiessen-stirring excerpt for yez (come in spinners):-

"Most of these attacks either didn’t kill anyone or led to a small number of deaths. In September 2017, for example, Kenneth James Gleason, a white supremacist, was charged with shooting and killing Donald Smart, an African-American, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. A few attacks were more lethal. In June 2015, Dylann Roof opened fire with a Glock .45 caliber pistol on parishioners at Emanuel Africa Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine people. His motivations were racist, and he expressed his extremist beliefs on such websites as lastrhodesian.com."

The next passage refers to Timothy McVeigh (etc), but since greg stipulated 2008 -2017, and I only look back to post 9/11 - that was not included.

Very hard to find a definitive list..... I could keep searching for yez - but time for you to do some real work outside flapping your gums, you lot.



You put in a lot of good work

hope it's not a case of pearls before swine


Meanwhile, a garbage thread about strawberry pickers never lacks for comment

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:22pm
I note thatthe phrase used for these 'right wing extremists' killing people is that they 'have ties to right wing groups' - not that they are members as such - but they have 'ties' (undefined).

That's like saying that someone who reported their house broken into is 'known to police'..... (one serious flaw in past NSW Police commissioner Peter Ryan's approach of 'every contact with police is recorded'..... thus if you go to police for help several times - you are 'known to police' if they somehow want to fit you up)....

I'd like someone to clarify what these 'right wing extremist ties' actually are.... and I note that the second site I posted below says 'most acted alone' etc... now - that may not mean they are not part of a group - but clearly it does not say they are...

They may sit around drinking coffee with some 'right wing extremists' - and then go and act on their own.  This is quite unlike the murderer of Curtis Cheng, who received indoctrination, was supplied the weapon and then given support to carry out the act.

Let's look at Tarrant - he was very low profile until he struck .. no connection with 'right wing extremists' in NZ bent on killing a host of innocents....one group approached him to join and he was active in an online community - but it does not appear he joined any group...

How say you, my fine feathered friends?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:23pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:
Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties,



FD?


FD is greg's parent?  Who'd 've thunk it?  Some say greg's an FD sock, but hey ... I take 'em as they come... not going to get twisted into a knot looking for a sock in every pile of manure....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:31pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:
Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties,



FD?


FD is greg's parent?  Who'd 've thunk it?  Some say greg's an FD sock, but hey ... I take 'em as they come... not going to get twisted into a knot looking for a sock in every pile of manure....



and yet here you are digging into your pile of manure ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:22pm:
I note thatthe phrase used for these 'right wing extremists' killing people is that they 'have ties to right wing groups' - not that they are members as such - but they have 'ties' (undefined).

That's like saying that someone who reported their house broken into is 'known to police'..... (one serious flaw in past NSW Police commissioner Peter Ryan's approach of 'every contact with police is recorded'..... thus if you go to police for help several times - you are 'known to police' if they somehow want to fit you up)....

I'd like someone to clarify what these 'right wing extremist ties' actually are.... and I note that the second site I posted below says 'most acted alone' etc... now - that may not mean they are not part of a group - but clearly it does not say they are...

They may sit around drinking coffee with some 'right wing extremists' - and then go and act on their own.  This is quite unlike the murderer of Curtis Cheng, who received indoctrination, was supplied the weapon and then given support to carry out the act.

Let's look at Tarrant - he was very low profile until he struck .. no connection with 'right wing extremists' in NZ bent on killing a host of innocents....one group approached him to join and he was active in an online community - but it does not appear he joined any group...

How say you, my fine feathered friends?



They have nothing to say unless it arrives in this week's manual from the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts

they're empty

and most of all, empty of integrity


They say love of money is the root of all evil

but others believe poverty is the root of most evil


and the poverty-stricken desperates who post for pay illustrate that … sadly

they'd post anything, anywhere which will tolerate their crap

as long as they get enough per day to buy a couple of packets of cheap instant noodles


To rid itself of bottom-feeders, like those who post division, disruption and out and out filth and disharmony, society should (a) check if they're in receipt of welfare and (b) put them on card-only welfare to prevent them burning taxpayers' hard earned dollars on drugs and grog and force them to be able to buy only wholesome foods.  And of course, take away their internet.  Welfare recipients shouldn't be able to subsidise their welfare monies via posting online for pay -- catering to the most divisive element in world society -- unless they are working and earning sufficient to house and feed themselves and pay for their own internet connection

too many parasites undermining decent society with divisive lies, which they KNOW to be lies

and pretend virtue signalling under a variety of socks

for profit



curse them

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
rom the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts



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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
rom the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts



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you epitomise the adage

'empty vessels make the most noise'

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:40pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
rom the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts



;D ;D ;D ;D
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you epitomise the adage

'empty vessels make the most noise'



au contraire ...... it is you that has dedicated your life to page after page after page of these nonsensical conspiracy theories ... you are a much better candidate for that phrase

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
rom the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts



;D ;D ;D ;D
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you epitomise the adage

'empty vessels make the most noise'



au contraire ...... it is you that has dedicated your life to page after page after page of these nonsensical conspiracy theories ... you are a much better candidate for that phrase



as I said

you are the most lacklustre and least developed of all greg's socks


why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum

Maybe he just can't be bothered fleshing out the entity called John Smith?

like a job half finished

if that


Smith, you should beg greg to euthanise you

or at least combine you with one of his other half-baked alter egos

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:48pm
.

and so

where are the forum feminists (or any other self declared 'feminists')

when it comes to the issue of female genital mutilation ?


come on --- let's hear from you

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:47pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Ozpolitic denizen Haji Gordon could be sued by Blacks, Lebanese, Mexicans and Indians.

Truth is not a defense in libel cases. Intent is the measure of the offense.


That's true, Laugh, but then they'd have to close down Chez Gordon and send all those Curries BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. 

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:13am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:11pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
Let's try some more:-

"The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

This might help:-

https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

Shiessen-stirring excerpt for yez (come in spinners):-

"Most of these attacks either didn’t kill anyone or led to a small number of deaths. In September 2017, for example, Kenneth James Gleason, a white supremacist, was charged with shooting and killing Donald Smart, an African-American, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. A few attacks were more lethal. In June 2015, Dylann Roof opened fire with a Glock .45 caliber pistol on parishioners at Emanuel Africa Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine people. His motivations were racist, and he expressed his extremist beliefs on such websites as lastrhodesian.com."

The next passage refers to Timothy McVeigh (etc), but since greg stipulated 2008 -2017, and I only look back to post 9/11 - that was not included.

Very hard to find a definitive list..... I could keep searching for yez - but time for you to do some real work outside flapping your gums, you lot.



You put in a lot of good work

hope it's not a case of pearls before swine


Meanwhile, a garbage thread about strawberry pickers never lacks for comment



It's always a case of pearls before swine... I do try, though... thankee, squire...

Never thought an 'incel' gender bender was a 'white supremacist' - just an nutter, but who am I to say?  Anyone with an objection to anything, and who happens to be white, is labeled a 'white supremacist' - yet there are no Black supremacists when they demand and demand, no ethnic supremacists when they demand and demand, with each wanting it ALL 'their way or no way" ... funny how that works.

React with a NO to a stupid demand from a 'non-white' and out come the nasty labels... everyone forgets that the initial demand for 'my way or the highway' came from the 'non-white' etc, meaning they are the aggressor -  I suppose it's Inevitable though, given the times and the promotion of politics of division and exclusion.  Feminists started it ... long ago.. and I warned then about this descent into madness... anyone who's ever lived with a woman knows they act on the principle that they are Entitled to sail in, blast away, and then just walk out of Dodge... without a moment's fair discussion or consideration.  Now that's spread to all the other crazies in life...   :-?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:20am

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:55pm:
Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties,



FD?


FD is greg's parent?  Who'd 've thunk it?  Some say greg's an FD sock, but hey ... I take 'em as they come... not going to get twisted into a knot looking for a sock in every pile of manure....



and yet here you are digging into your   this pile of manure ::)


.. and I'm not looking for socks here - trying to enlighten you all... what a laugh....

Where are the case by case figures on 'white extremist killings'?  If you once address the issue at hand, you might learn something... personally I'm open to persuasion on facts - but 46% of killings by one clear group that comprises 1.1% of the population is very persuasive....  54% left to the cis clown, the school shooters, Colombian carteliers wasting an opponent, the odd nutter attacking an abortion clinic, the casual Jew hater (my great-great-grandparents were Jews from Germany - means nothing to me one way or the other, but I don't think they conspired anything ever)...

Where's the list?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:22am

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D


Since socks are filled with air between uses, JS has no content to make of him a sock...

Now THIS one has got to be familiar...

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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:23am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:47pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Ozpolitic denizen Haji Gordon could be sued by Blacks, Lebanese, Mexicans and Indians.

Truth is not a defense in libel cases. Intent is the measure of the offense.


That's true, Laugh, but then they'd have to close down Chez Gordon and send all those Curries BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM. 


What 'intent' is there in simply citing public truths?   8-)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:38am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:13am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:11pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
Let's try some more:-

"The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

This might help:-

https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

Shiessen-stirring excerpt for yez (come in spinners):-

"Most of these attacks either didn’t kill anyone or led to a small number of deaths. In September 2017, for example, Kenneth James Gleason, a white supremacist, was charged with shooting and killing Donald Smart, an African-American, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. A few attacks were more lethal. In June 2015, Dylann Roof opened fire with a Glock .45 caliber pistol on parishioners at Emanuel Africa Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine people. His motivations were racist, and he expressed his extremist beliefs on such websites as lastrhodesian.com."

The next passage refers to Timothy McVeigh (etc), but since greg stipulated 2008 -2017, and I only look back to post 9/11 - that was not included.

Very hard to find a definitive list..... I could keep searching for yez - but time for you to do some real work outside flapping your gums, you lot.



You put in a lot of good work

hope it's not a case of pearls before swine


Meanwhile, a garbage thread about strawberry pickers never lacks for comment



It's always a case of pearls before swine... I do try, though... thankee, squire...

Never thought an 'incel' gender bender was a 'white supremacist' - just an nutter, but who am I to say?  Anyone with an objection to anything, and who happens to be white, is labeled a 'white supremacist' - yet there are no Black supremacists when they demand and demand, no ethnic supremacists when they demand and demand, with each wanting it ALL 'their way or no way" ... funny how that works.

React with a NO to a stupid demand from a 'non-white' and out come the nasty labels... everyone forgets that the initial demand for 'my way or the highway' came from the 'non-white' etc, meaning they are the aggressor -  I suppose it's Inevitable though, given the times and the promotion of politics of division and exclusion.  Feminists started it ... long ago.. and I warned then about this descent into madness... anyone who's ever lived with a woman knows they act on the principle that they are Entitled to sail in, blast away, and then just walk out of Dodge... without a moment's fair discussion or consideration.  Now that's spread to all the other crazies in life...   :-?



Point !  Point !  Point !


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by PZ547 on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:47am
The 'made in the parasites' laboratories term
'white pride'

is a spinoff from the highly publicised 'black pride' movements of the late 60s and 70s

it's when the parasites believed that having now wrested their 'homeland' via WW2 successfully

they were now ready to really unleash on the US (which they'd invaded with their carpet-bags along with the founding fathers)

so out came the parasites' 'black pride' movement under the pretence of championing the 'repressed' blacks -- whom they hate with an unholy passion and describe as 'swartz'

and it was an orchestrated campaign designed to destroy the US from the guts out

the 'we're all beautiful' chants
and the massive afros
and the stoners who'd never earned a dime in their lives and instead claimed they could live on lurve (as long as their parents and entire societies fed and housed them)

we've seen the insolent, ignorant, riven with envy and jealousy results ever since -- fat, ugly black women telling each other they're 'queens' -- and the proliferation of Jacuntay and Shaceela names on their unfortunate offspring who were in juvenile hall by the time they were ten because they too had been encouraged to believe that those pretty, generous, intelligent, progressive, forward-thinking whites had 'stolen' it all from some mystical black race which gave cathedrals and classical literature to those dumb whiteys over in Urope before returning to their huts of mud and sticks in mother Africa

not content with breeding hatred in blacks, the parasites (who always play both sides for profit) launched a 'white pride' movement

and let's not suggest blacks and whites used their collective brains and muscle in a united front for once

and rid this planet of the demonic parasites determined to destroy the known world so they can be declared the winnahs and lords over all

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:48am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D


Since socks are filled with air between uses, JS has no content to make of him a sock...

Now THIS one has got to be familiar...


socks filled with air between uses? On what planet? ;D ;D ;D

do you put balloons on your feet perchance?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 16th, 2019 at 12:38pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?


So many questions and no answers.  Very annoying isn't it Effendi.  Here's one for you...WHY DID YOU BAN PECCERRY?


FD already said, Aussie. He banned him for lying. Or the FBI lying, I'm not sure which.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 16th, 2019 at 12:48pm
Really?????

:o

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Valkie on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:56pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
rom the Saudi fronts and Soros fronts



;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D




you epitomise the adage

'empty vessels make the most noise'



au contraire ...... it is you that has dedicated your life to page after page after page of these nonsensical conspiracy theories ... you are a much better candidate for that phrase



as I said

you are the most lacklustre and least developed of all greg's socks


why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum

Maybe he just can't be bothered fleshing out the entity called John Smith?

like a job half finished

if that


Smith, you should beg greg to euthanise you

or at least combine you with one of his other half-baked alter egos


Love it

But you will get yourself in trouble that way

Turd mc turdface had me banned once for proving that he had several socks working with him.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:48am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D


Since socks are filled with air between uses, JS has no content to make of him a sock...

Now THIS one has got to be familiar...


socks filled with air between uses? On what planet? ;D ;D ;D

do you put balloons on your feet perchance?


What else is inside them?  Black Holes?  They are 'filled' as much as they are with air and nothing else... doesn't have to mean they are stuffed full....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:44pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 12:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:04pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?


you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.


The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.



greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'


His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.



Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.


It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?


So many questions and no answers.  Very annoying isn't it Effendi.  Here's one for you...WHY DID YOU BAN PECCERRY?


FD already said, Aussie. He banned him for lying. Or the FBI lying, I'm not sure which.


Has greg copped a ban?  Maybe he's just sleeping it off....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 12:48pm:
Really?????

:o


This forum becomes more and more bizarre by the day... in so many ways...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:48pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:48am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D


Since socks are filled with air between uses, JS has no content to make of him a sock...

Now THIS one has got to be familiar...


socks filled with air between uses? On what planet? ;D ;D ;D

do you put balloons on your feet perchance?


What else is inside them?  Black Holes?  They are 'filled' as much as they are with air and nothing else... doesn't have to mean they are stuffed full....



they're not 'filled' with anything. Not unless you fold them into each other for storage

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.



that's because FD has lost his balls. The gutless wonder can only ban or misquote people

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by tickleandrose on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:10pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

    We succeeded in taking that picture [from deep space], and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.

    The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.

    Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

    — Carl Sagan, speech at Cornell University, October 13, 1994

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:24pm

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:10pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

    We succeeded in taking that picture [from deep space], and, if you look at it, you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.

    The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.

    Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

    — Carl Sagan, speech at Cornell University, October 13, 1994


Great speech.
Carl Sagan is one of my favourite authors.

I wrote this today:

Nearly every spot of light in this picture is another galaxy.
Each galaxy could have millions of planets just like Earth.
The image is only a tiny spot of the sky.
We are but a speck in a vast cosmic ocean.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:38pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 7:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:48am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:22am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
why he hasn't either retired you or granted your puppet status more intelligence

is one of the mysteries of this forum



only for you. Most of the other members aren't dumb enough to think i'm his sock ;D ;D ;D


Since socks are filled with air between uses, JS has no content to make of him a sock...

Now THIS one has got to be familiar...


socks filled with air between uses? On what planet? ;D ;D ;D

do you put balloons on your feet perchance?


What else is inside them?  Black Holes?  They are 'filled' as much as they are with air and nothing else... doesn't have to mean they are stuffed full....



they're not 'filled' with anything. Not unless you fold them into each other for storage



Ah!  The Smith Theory Of Zero Space Left Over in a Folded Sock..... it is Inevitable that some air will be left inside even a folded sock... it is on such principles that the distortions of the Universe required to fill two or more different socks into one space are built...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.


I'm happy to debate with greg the figures he has shown... I have yet to see a link to its source and a list of such killings by 'right wing extremists' that apparently vastly out-number killings by right rabid Muslims.....

My figures show a different story and do not support his statement that killings by 'right wing supremacists' (no colour or creed included) VASTLY out-number those by extreme Muslims.. again - 46% of such killings since 9/11 (excluded so as not to weigh figures against extremist Muslims) are attributable to Muslims in a terrorism setting - the remaining 54% is split among countless disparate groups which do not constitute a whole, including some gender weirdoes and such.

If you look at the same figures over the past twenty years, extremist Muslims far out-weigh any others.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:45pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.


I'm happy to debate with greg the figures he has shown... I have yet to see a link to its source and a list of such killings by 'right wing extremists' that apparently vastly out-number killings by right rabid Muslims.....

My figures show a different story and do not support his statement that killings by 'right wing supremacists' (no colour or creed included) VASTLY out-number those by extreme Muslims.. again - 46% of such killings since 9/11 (excluded so as not to weigh figures against extremist Muslims) are attributable to Muslims in a terrorism setting - the remaining 54% is split among countless disparate groups which do not constitute a whole, including some gender weirdoes and such.

If you look at the same figures over the past twenty years, extremist Muslims far out-weigh any others.


You'll have to do that elsewhere.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by freediver on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:45pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.


I'm happy to debate with greg the figures he has shown... I have yet to see a link to its source and a list of such killings by 'right wing extremists' that apparently vastly out-number killings by right rabid Muslims.....

My figures show a different story and do not support his statement that killings by 'right wing supremacists' (no colour or creed included) VASTLY out-number those by extreme Muslims.. again - 46% of such killings since 9/11 (excluded so as not to weigh figures against extremist Muslims) are attributable to Muslims in a terrorism setting - the remaining 54% is split among countless disparate groups which do not constitute a whole, including some gender weirdoes and such.

If you look at the same figures over the past twenty years, extremist Muslims far out-weigh any others.


You'll have to do that elsewhere.


Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 16th, 2019 at 11:14pm

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?



Even so  did it warrant divine intervention? Someone may well have made the statement that greg posted - but it should be referenced as some of us do.

Let him back...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:52am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?



Even so  did it warrant divine intervention? Someone may well have made the statement that greg posted - but it should be referenced as some of us do.

Let him back...


I've not read the  entire thread but i'm pretty damn sure Greg would have provided references for all of his statistics.

FD is simply having a hissy fit

Either that of Gordy whined about something again.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:09am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:13am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:11pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
Let's try some more:-

"The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/

This might help:-

https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

Shiessen-stirring excerpt for yez (come in spinners):-

"Most of these attacks either didn’t kill anyone or led to a small number of deaths. In September 2017, for example, Kenneth James Gleason, a white supremacist, was charged with shooting and killing Donald Smart, an African-American, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. A few attacks were more lethal. In June 2015, Dylann Roof opened fire with a Glock .45 caliber pistol on parishioners at Emanuel Africa Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killing nine people. His motivations were racist, and he expressed his extremist beliefs on such websites as lastrhodesian.com."

The next passage refers to Timothy McVeigh (etc), but since greg stipulated 2008 -2017, and I only look back to post 9/11 - that was not included.

Very hard to find a definitive list..... I could keep searching for yez - but time for you to do some real work outside flapping your gums, you lot.



You put in a lot of good work

hope it's not a case of pearls before swine


Meanwhile, a garbage thread about strawberry pickers never lacks for comment



It's always a case of pearls before swine... I do try, though... thankee, squire...

Never thought an 'incel' gender bender was a 'white supremacist' - just an nutter, but who am I to say?  Anyone with an objection to anything, and who happens to be white, is labeled a 'white supremacist' - yet there are no Black supremacists when they demand and demand, no ethnic supremacists when they demand and demand, with each wanting it ALL 'their way or no way" ... funny how that works.

React with a NO to a stupid demand from a 'non-white' and out come the nasty labels... everyone forgets that the initial demand for 'my way or the highway' came from the 'non-white' etc, meaning they are the aggressor -  I suppose it's Inevitable though, given the times and the promotion of politics of division and exclusion.  Feminists started it ... long ago.. and I warned then about this descent into madness... anyone who's ever lived with a woman knows they act on the principle that they are Entitled to sail in, blast away, and then just walk out of Dodge... without a moment's fair discussion or consideration.  Now that's spread to all the other crazies in life...   :-?



Very well said.
Perhaps in 200yrs the whites may get an apology....but I doubt it.


Whites built a society that every other color wants. So the whites include them all. Then when it gets beyond a joke and whites say "hang on", out come the labels.....and damn there is a lot of labels. Almost enough to start catogorising them like supermarket isles.  ;D

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:17am
Frightening what is applauded on here. Truly frightening.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:18am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:09am:
Perhaps in 200yrs the whites may get an apology....but I doubt it.



Yep. That was said.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:22am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:17am:
Frightening what is applauded on here. Truly frightening.



I take it you don't like the truth?



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:26am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:17am:
Frightening what is applauded on here. Truly frightening.



I take it you don't like the truth?



Love the truth. Huge fan of the truth.

You lot are just weird though.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 8:12am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:13am:
It's always a case of pearls before swine... I do try, though... thankee, squire...

Never thought an 'incel' gender bender was a 'white supremacist' - just an nutter, but who am I to say?  Anyone with an objection to anything, and who happens to be white, is labeled a 'white supremacist' - yet there are no Black supremacists when they demand and demand, no ethnic supremacists when they demand and demand, with each wanting it ALL 'their way or no way" ... funny how that works.

React with a NO to a stupid demand from a 'non-white' and out come the nasty labels... everyone forgets that the initial demand for 'my way or the highway' came from the 'non-white' etc, meaning they are the aggressor -  I suppose it's Inevitable though, given the times and the promotion of politics of division and exclusion.  Feminists started it ... long ago.. and I warned then about this descent into madness... anyone who's ever lived with a woman knows they act on the principle that they are Entitled to sail in, blast away, and then just walk out of Dodge... without a moment's fair discussion or consideration.  Now that's spread to all the other crazies in life...   :-?



As to your "pearls before swine" comment, i'd have a good hard look at who agrees with you over who doesn't, if i were you. It really is very telling.

And to answer your ridiculously over worded question, it's you nasty little supremacists who we are railing against. Be it race, religion, culture or gender ... you nasty little supremacists are the right wing extremists of today.

And we will take you down ... if you don't die out first. However over represented you think you are on this pissant little forum. The bulk of society rejects you.

Utterly.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 9:47am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:52am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?



Even so  did it warrant divine intervention? Someone may well have made the statement that greg posted - but it should be referenced as some of us do.

Let him back...


I've not read the  entire thread but i'm pretty damn sure Greg would have provided references for all of his statistics.

FD is simply having a hissy fit

Either that of Gordy whined about something again.


Me whining? I ping Greg and Laugh when they make rape/pedo accusations and the last time it wasn't even an accusation about me.

Of all the people here, you should particularly annoyed by fake rape accusations, but you let them slide because they come from your team.

That just shows conclusively that you're a fake and a fraud, eh EVERCLEAR!!!!

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 9:59am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 9:47am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:52am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 11:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?



Even so  did it warrant divine intervention? Someone may well have made the statement that greg posted - but it should be referenced as some of us do.

Let him back...


I've not read the  entire thread but i'm pretty damn sure Greg would have provided references for all of his statistics.

FD is simply having a hissy fit

Either that of Gordy whined about something again.


Me whining? I ping Greg and Laugh when they make rape/pedo accusations and the last time it wasn't even an accusation about me.

Of all the people here, you should particularly annoyed by fake rape accusations, but you let them slide because they come from your team.

That just shows conclusively that you're a fake and a fraud, eh EVERCLEAR!!!!


Is it because i make you feel bad about yourself that you repeat this fake/fraud mantra at me, Gordy?

It explains why you make up lies about me and constantly ridicule my life choices.


I make you feel about yourself, don't i?

There's hope for you yet.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:04am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?


Do you think taunting rape victims is harmful to genuine victims of sexual assault?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:12am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?


Do you think taunting rape victims is harmful to genuine victims of sexual assault?


Yes, and that's something I've never done.
Now answer my question please, Everclear.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:15am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:12am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?


Do you think taunting rape victims is harmful to genuine victims of sexual assault?


Yes, and that's something I've never done.
Now answer my question please, Everclear.



Yes you have. And you have supported it 100%. At the very least, you have sat idly by while it has happened many, many times over years.

Do not lecture me on how to deal with the victims of sexual abuse. Particularly when you are only using us to further your personal grudges,. You are despicable.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:18am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:12am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?


Do you think taunting rape victims is harmful to genuine victims of sexual assault?


Yes, and that's something I've never done.
Now answer my question please, Everclear.



Yes you have. And you have supported it 100%. At the very least, you have sat idly by while it has happened many, many times over years.

Do not lecture me on how to deal with the victims of sexual abuse. Particularly when you are only using us to further your personal grudges,. You are despicable.


If I taunted you for being raped I'd have been banned, but it never happened but you as Everclear made fake rape accusations.

Fake, fraud.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:21am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:15am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:12am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:00am:
Do you think false rape accusations are harmful for genuine victims of sexual assault?


Do you think taunting rape victims is harmful to genuine victims of sexual assault?


Yes, and that's something I've never done.
Now answer my question please, Everclear.



Yes you have. And you have supported it 100%. At the very least, you have sat idly by while it has happened many, many times over years.

Do not lecture me on how to deal with the victims of sexual abuse. Particularly when you are only using us to further your personal grudges,. You are despicable.


If I taunted you for being raped I'd have been banned, but it never happened but you as Everclear made fake rape accusations.

Fake, fraud.


You know what you have done. I know what you have done.

You know who you have supported. And continue to support.

As do i.

You are scum. Do not presume to take me to task.

Nobody has done anything near to you what has been done to me. And you laughed.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:27am
Nope, never. I'd have been banned along with AiA.

You made fake rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:30am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:27am:
Nope, never. I'd have been banned along with AiA.

You made fake rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



I made fake rape accusations?

Tell me Gordy, did you ever tell AiA that you thought is was unacceptable that he taunt me about rape?

You know, the way you are expecting me to comment on others for crimes far less heinous?

I know you didn't because you were joining in. And laughing.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:32am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:30am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:27am:
Nope, never. I'd have been banned along with AiA.

You made fake rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



I made fake rape accusations?

Tell me Gordy, did you ever tell AiA that you thought is was unacceptable that he taunt me about rape?

You know, the way you are expecting me to comment on others for crimes far less heinous?

I know you didn't because you were joining in. And laughing.


You're a fake and fraud, EVERCLEAR.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.



I have never seen Greg make rape or paedophilia accusations.

The worst i saw of Unfy was he suggested you had a school for sleeping with unconscious women

Nowhere near the altitude of what AiA did to to me. Of which you not only didn't contest, you laughed along and joined in.



Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am
Mothra, you too have taunted others about rape. Indeed you have ...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am

AiA wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am:
Mothra, you too have taunted others about rape. Indeed you have ...



Bullshit.

But it's about what i'd expect of you.

Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you strongly object to how he's treated me?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:38am
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.



I have never seen Greg make rape or paedophilia accusations.

The worst i saw of Unfy was he suggested you had a school for sleeping with unconscious women

Nowhere near the altitude of what AiA did to to me. Of which you not only didn't contest, you laughed along and joined in.



thats interesting mothra.... because   you have accused me of joining in the rape crap as well and not supporting you  ::) ::)  its a long time ago that all went on...and from memory AiA was banned over it...

I could be wrong....but if he was he served the time and he shouldnt keep paying the price...

there is nothing nice about rape   and no it shouldnt be made a joke of....but AiA barely comes here now   and I cant remember when rape was last mentioned..

WHY DOES IT KEEP COMING UP?..

what purpose does it serve..

if AiA is the one to bring it up...no I havent searched....

then shame on him   grow up and move on....

why has RAPE now taken over this thread???...


  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:53am

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.



I have never seen Greg make rape or paedophilia accusations.

The worst i saw of Unfy was he suggested you had a school for sleeping with unconscious women

Nowhere near the altitude of what AiA did to to me. Of which you not only didn't contest, you laughed along and joined in.



thats interesting mothra.... because   you have accused me of joining in the rape crap as well and not supporting you  ::) ::)  its a long time ago that all went on...and from memory AiA was banned over it...

I could be wrong....but if he was he served the time and he shouldnt keep paying the price...

there is nothing nice about rape   and no it shouldnt be made a joke of....but AiA barely comes here now   and I cant remember when rape was last mentioned..

WHY DOES IT KEEP COMING UP?..

what purpose does it serve..

if AiA is the one to bring it up...no I havent searched....

then shame on him   grow up and move on....

why has RAPE now taken over this thread???...


  >:( >:( >:( >:(



You went on and on about me having a rape fetish because i protested LOUDLY about AiA's crap.

You redeemed yourself by standing up to him. At last.

You have my eternal thanks for that.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:58am
And Cods, Gordy brought this up. It's all on him.

I'm just throwing it back in his face.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am
Everclear/Mothra brings up rape at every opportunity then attacks those who don't agree with her

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:
Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



gordon  mothra is like another member from here..

if you dont jump in and condemn said slur....then you condone said slur   

even if you didnt even read it..

you are tarnished forever


I am being a bit daring today for jumping into this talkfest..because it will come back and bite me 3 years from now....but I do remember some rage about rape  and its been brought up so many times on here.. its like... Bold and the Beautiful...it keeps getting regurgitated  :( :( :(

of course the stories change as time gets away.... ::) ::) ::)

I know what its like to be attacked in a horrible way..

I do my best to leave it in the past.. why relive something horrible over and over.? makes no sense to me....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:02am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:53am:

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.



I have never seen Greg make rape or paedophilia accusations.

The worst i saw of Unfy was he suggested you had a school for sleeping with unconscious women

Nowhere near the altitude of what AiA did to to me. Of which you not only didn't contest, you laughed along and joined in.



thats interesting mothra.... because   you have accused me of joining in the rape crap as well and not supporting you  ::) ::)  its a long time ago that all went on...and from memory AiA was banned over it...

I could be wrong....but if he was he served the time and he shouldnt keep paying the price...

there is nothing nice about rape   and no it shouldnt be made a joke of....but AiA barely comes here now   and I cant remember when rape was last mentioned..

WHY DOES IT KEEP COMING UP?..

what purpose does it serve..

if AiA is the one to bring it up...no I havent searched....

then shame on him   grow up and move on....

why has RAPE now taken over this thread???...


  >:( >:( >:( >:(



You went on and on about me having a rape fetish because i protested LOUDLY about AiA's crap.

You redeemed yourself by standing up to him. At last.

You have my eternal thanks for that.



your memory is so clear... can you provide the thread
please... as these are  some accusation you are throwing around here...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:02am

AiA wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:
Everclear/Mothra brings up rape at every opportunity then attacks those who don't agree with her


See what he's doing, Gordy? You brought up rape.

Are you going to correct him?

Or are you going to pretend you don't know what he's doing?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?


I most certainly did not. Orr else, to use your logic, i would be banned.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to substantiate your claim?

I have links. Just sing out if you need some.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:
Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



gordon  mothra is like another member from here..

if you dont jump in and condemn said slur....then you condone said slur   

even if you didnt even read it..

you are tarnished forever


I am being a bit daring today for jumping into this talkfest..because it will come back and bite me 3 years from now....but I do remember some rage about rape  and its been brought up so many times on here.. its like... Bold and the Beautiful...it keeps getting regurgitated  :( :( :(

of course the stories change as time gets away.... ::) ::) ::)

I know what its like to be attacked in a horrible way..

I do my best to leave it in the past.. why relive something horrible over and over.? makes no sense to me....


I have actually never even seen seen the comments and now I'm complicit in making them?

I refuse to participate nor be the victim of a struggle session.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:05am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?


I most certainly did not. Orr else, to use your logic, i would be banned.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to substantiate your claim?

I have links. Just sing out if you need some.


Everclear WAS banned, I was not.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:06am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:
Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



gordon  mothra is like another member from here..

if you dont jump in and condemn said slur....then you condone said slur   

even if you didnt even read it..

you are tarnished forever


I am being a bit daring today for jumping into this talkfest..because it will come back and bite me 3 years from now....but I do remember some rage about rape  and its been brought up so many times on here.. its like... Bold and the Beautiful...it keeps getting regurgitated  :( :( :(

of course the stories change as time gets away.... ::) ::) ::)

I know what its like to be attacked in a horrible way..

I do my best to leave it in the past.. why relive something horrible over and over.? makes no sense to me....


I have actually never even seen seen the comments and now I'm complicit in making them?

I refuse to participate nor be the victim of a struggle session.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session


Hold the smacking phone. You're now claiming you've never see AiA taunt me about rape?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:07am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:
I have links. Just sing out if you need some.





yes please! :)  make that pretty please.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:07am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:05am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?


I most certainly did not. Orr else, to use your logic, i would be banned.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to substantiate your claim?

I have links. Just sing out if you need some.


Everclear WAS banned, I was not.



I have no idea who Everclear is or was. Whatever you reckon. I simply don;t care.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:10am
Everclear/Mothra borrowed a page out of Aussie's playbook: share a personal detail and attack those who mention it.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:11am

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:07am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:
I have links. Just sing out if you need some.





yes please! :)  make that pretty please.


You want me to go back to where you and Agnes piled on to AiA and Gordy? Seriously, if that were even possible, i couldn't be arsed.

Deny it if you will. Makes no difference,. I remember.

As i said, you redeemed yourself. Interesting you didn't hold onto that and went for the 'let's keep fighting' option. Noted.

But i have links to what what AiA said, that i reposted, that had Gordy accusing me of accusing AiA of being a rapist ... which i thought tremendously interesting ... that Gordy got that from AiA's post that is.

And i've links to how all of that played out.

So, happy to supply them.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:13am
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:13am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:07am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:05am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?


I most certainly did not. Orr else, to use your logic, i would be banned.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to substantiate your claim?

I have links. Just sing out if you need some.


Everclear WAS banned, I was not.



I have no idea who Everclear is or was. Whatever you reckon. I simply don;t care.


bullschit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:13am

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:45pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Nah...he has been banned (by FD it seems.)  It seems for no better reason that he and FD had a disagreement.


I'm happy to debate with greg the figures he has shown... I have yet to see a link to its source and a list of such killings by 'right wing extremists' that apparently vastly out-number killings by right rabid Muslims.....

My figures show a different story and do not support his statement that killings by 'right wing supremacists' (no colour or creed included) VASTLY out-number those by extreme Muslims.. again - 46% of such killings since 9/11 (excluded so as not to weigh figures against extremist Muslims) are attributable to Muslims in a terrorism setting - the remaining 54% is split among countless disparate groups which do not constitute a whole, including some gender weirdoes and such.

If you look at the same figures over the past twenty years, extremist Muslims far out-weigh any others.


You'll have to do that elsewhere.


Because no-one here can figure out where the numbers ultimately came from. It's a mystery isn't it, detective Aussie?


Oh?


Quote:
President Donald Trump has repeatedly described “radical Islamic terrorism” as the most significant threat to the homeland. A new database compiled by The Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute examines that claim by looking back over a nine-year period, from 2008 through 2016. The findings are dramatic: Far-right plots and attacks outnumber Islamist incidents by almost 2 to 1.

There are 201 incidents in the database, sorted broadly as Islamist, right wing (including white supremacists, militias and members of the so-called Patriot and sovereign citizens movements), and left wing (including animal right militants, environmentalists, anarchists and Black Lives Matter sympathizers). Most of the Islamist incidents are thwarted plots, indicating a significant investment of law enforcement resources. Most of the others are successful acts in which attackers damaged property or inflicted human casualties.

The data also reveals a serious imbalance in the way the United States confronts terrorism institutionally, from the resources federal officials devote to gathering intelligence to the investigation, prosecution and punishment of perpetrators and their associates.
https://www.typeinvestigations.org/domesticterror/

Pretty easy to find, FD. You just do a search for Greggery's source and click on the links.

Do you want to apologise to Greggery and lift his ban?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:14am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:14am
Weren't Everclear a completely tragic surf rock band from the '90s? Or maybe a skin solution?

Anyway, it's got the lads excited.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:14am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:13am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:07am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:05am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:04am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:59am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:45am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:40am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:37am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:31am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 10:29am:
You're actually the scum  because you stand by and hoot and holler when Laugh and Greg make rape and pedo accusations, and that's  because you as Everclear made rape accusations.

You're just upset because I've outed you as a total fraud.


I don't think that's even English.

Are you okay?


Are you OK, Everclear? I see no denials there.

You're a fake and a fraud and you do more harm than anyone to rape victims by making fake rape accusations.


Let us be clear here. You are accusing me of harming rape victims? More than anybody else?


Making fake rape accusations would have to be one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims. Boy who cried wolf, eh Everclear?


I think the heartless taunting of rape survivors far worse that Unfy saying you had a school for having sex with unconscious women, Gordy.

But you've got a glass jaw.

And you're also a complete and utter arsehole.

Now, would you like to take this opportunity to tell AiA that you didn't like how he treated me?

Or will you stop asking me to comment on the writings of people i;ve less affiliation with than you do with AiA?

I mean, i certainly didn't join in and laugh along ... like you did.


Show my one single post where I supported what AiA said. You can't because it didn't happen. In your mind it happened  because you're a nutjob.

I gave all that a very wide berth. But as Everclear, YOU made rape accusations because you're a fake and a fraud.



Will you take this opportunity to denounce AiA? To apologise for your spineless acceptance (although we both know it was complicity) of his behaviour?

That's what you're asking me to do, yeah? For a whole lot less over people i am considerably less affiliated with?


Why should I comment on an issue I've had absolutely nothing to do with when you made DIRECT rape accusations?


I most certainly did not. Orr else, to use your logic, i would be banned.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to substantiate your claim?

I have links. Just sing out if you need some.


Everclear WAS banned, I was not.



I have no idea who Everclear is or was. Whatever you reckon. I simply don;t care.


bullschit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I swear on my children's lives.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:15am
Shock treatments are the answer!

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:16am

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:16am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:18am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:19am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:19am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session



You're kidding, right?

This is all about you wanting people denounced. Yet you will not denounce for greater crimes.

So interesting.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:20am
Folks, have I attacked Mothra aka Everclear in this thread?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:20am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:21am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:21am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:22am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:19am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session



You're kidding, right?

This is all about you wanting people denounced. Yet you will not denounce for greater crimes.

So interesting.


You want me to denounce somebody for things I've had nothing to do with and are ancient history? So interesting, EVERCLEAR.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:22am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:22am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by AiA on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:23am
flip

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:25am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:19am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session



You're kidding, right?

This is all about you wanting people denounced. Yet you will not denounce for greater crimes.

So interesting.


You want me to denounce somebody for things I've had nothing to do with and are ancient history? So interesting, EVERCLEAR.



Isn't that precisely what you're asking me to do? Ramp7?

Although i was never Everclear. But you can keep calling me that if it makes you feel important.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:35am

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


No dear, they're mostly "white supremacists, militias and members of the so-called Patriot and sovereign citizens movements)".

Greggery's source says that most of the Musel attacks were thwarted. They too are included in the data.

This is a good thing, but it highlights the problem inherent in the debate we're having. While the Muselman terrorist is stopped and caught, your Brenton Tarrants are missed, in Tarrant's case going on to conduct one of the biggest lone-shooting attacks in history.

Black churches, Jewish synagogues, Muslim mosques, even anti-racist protests - these are the targets of the white "patriot". These are the ones who get away with it.

More terrorist groups, more terrorist attacks, and yes - more terrorist deaths. In the US, in all criteria, your white supremacist is clearly the biggest threat.

Now what sort of apologist call such facts lies?

Yes, a fellow white supremacist, of course. And what would be his aim in attempting to hide the truth about terrorism?

Yes indeed, he wants more Jewish, black, Muselman and anti-racist deaths. He wants his friends to rack one up for Whitey.

You?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:44am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Gordy, would you like to take this opportunity to admonish AiA for his attacks on me and distance yourself from them?

or am i to take you for a fake and fraud?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session


Well put, Lord Gordo....

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:45am
Well, AiA keeps calling someone 'flip'......

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:47am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:45am:
Well, AiA keeps calling someone 'flip'......




I think he will end up in trouble for that.. ;) ;)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:50am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!


While Mothra was on her year long Contiki Tour (banned) a new poster named Everclear accused a member of child rape. The comments were shown to a MOD then deleted and Everclear banned.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:51am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!


While Mothra was on her year long Contiki Tour (banned) a new poster named Everclear accused a member hear of child rape. The comments were shown to a MOD then deleted.


Not me. Not even a little bit.

Sounds like fantasy to me.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gordon on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:52am

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!


While Mothra was on her year long Contiki Tour (banned) a new poster named Everclear accused a member hear of child rape. The comments were shown to a MOD then deleted.


Not me. Not even a little bit.

Sounds like fantasy to me.



Hi, Everclear.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:56am

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:52am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!


While Mothra was on her year long Contiki Tour (banned) a new poster named Everclear accused a member hear of child rape. The comments were shown to a MOD then deleted.


Not me. Not even a little bit.

Sounds like fantasy to me.



Hi, Everclear.



Wow, they realy got to you, didn't they? Can't have been a sewer rat impersonator  like the rest were... this is interesting.

Of course, it could just be a new ID who took umbrage at yours's and AiA's general gutter humour. Then blamed on me. Saw Aussie got a mention.

Figures.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Aussie on Jun 17th, 2019 at 1:45pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:46am:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Whoever Everclear was, they certainly left a mark on you poor boys. How much after the fact are you still crying?


Never heard of Everclear......

How has this thread descended into the Usual suspect name-calling and in-fighting?

Get a-hold of yourselves, people - everybody's watching!


While Mothra was on her year long Contiki Tour (banned) a new poster named Everclear accused a member of child rape. The comments were shown to a MOD then deleted and Everclear banned.


Everglade cockhead.  It was a setup to frame Mothra.  It failed.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by rhino on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:40pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:35am:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


No dear, they're mostly "white supremacists, militias and members of the so-called Patriot and sovereign citizens movements)".
No dear they aren't. And Pecca admits it.


Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:28pm
Well, we'll ask Greggery, shall we?

Greggery, do you admit that the white supremacist is not the biggest terrorist threat in the US? Your data says he is, dear.

Maybe you can tell Rhino when you come back from the long ban FD put on you for not loving Freeeeedom.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:38pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Everglade cockhead.  It was a setup to frame Mothra.  It failed.



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you'd think he'd at least get the name right.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm
Is mothra so good she needs framing?  I didn't think so - she is severely self-limited and self-limiting via her addiction to rabid support of minorities rebelling without cause, and her adherence to city hall in discussing any issue, not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....

Like most - she can be bested any time......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlb57OSBlY

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:46pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Is mothra so good she needs framing?  I didn't think so - she is severely self-limited and self-limiting via her addiction to rabid support of minorities rebelling without cause, and her adherence to city hall in discussing any issue, not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....

Like most - she can be bested any time......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlb57OSBlY



Yet i wasn't today.

And you've never managed it, old man.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....


probably best that you don't mention the sledging since your first 3 or 4 posts (as far as I have seen) since joining in this afternoon have been to sledge, first me then mothra  :D :D

you wouldn't want anyone to think your a duplicitous old geezer now would you.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:48pm

rhino wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:35am:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


No dear, they're mostly "white supremacists, militias and members of the so-called Patriot and sovereign citizens movements)".
No dear they aren't. And Pecca admits it.



Ah - so you know - then who are these 'white supremacists' carrying out some as yet undefined portion of the 54% of terrorist killings not carried out by rabid Muslims since 11/9/2001?

Some gender weirdo killed one out of 94 - some Jew hater killed 9, some Negro hater killed a dozen or so - not sure... that leaves around 72 unaccounted for.... who did those killings? 

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by mothra on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....


probably best that you don't mention the sledging since your first 3 or 4 posts (as far as I have seen) since joining in this afternoon have been to sledge, first me then mothra  :D :D

you wouldn't want anyone to think your a duplicitous old geezer now would you.




He's almost as bad as Cods for constantly doing precisely what he criticises. Almost.

But she is legendary.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by cods on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:28pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Everglade cockhead.  It was a setup to frame Mothra.  It failed.



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you'd think he'd at least get the name right.





hahah what name is that js??..

from memory you also were banned. ::)...

would you really remember a ring in from way back... ::) ::) ::)..

funny! what fail is aussie talking about??...

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by John Smith on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:29pm

cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Everglade cockhead.  It was a setup to frame Mothra.  It failed.



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you'd think he'd at least get the name right.





hahah what name is that js??..

from memory you also were banned. ::)...

would you really remember a ring in from way back... ::) ::) ::)..

funny! what fail is aussie talking about??...



there you go cods, highlighted it for you

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:48pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 11:35am:

rhino wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:59am:
...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...


Like terrorism, you mean?


Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing  abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.


No dear, they're mostly "white supremacists, militias and members of the so-called Patriot and sovereign citizens movements)".
No dear they aren't. And Pecca admits it.



Ah - so you know - then who are these 'white supremacists' carrying out some as yet undefined portion of the 54% of terrorist killings not carried out by rabid Muslims since 11/9/2001?

Some gender weirdo killed one out of 94 - some Jew hater killed 9, some Negro hater killed a dozen or so - not sure... that leaves around 72 unaccounted for.... who did those killings? 


I think FD should tell us where Greggery's source is wrong. Given FD called Greggery a liar and banned him, I think he owes us a bit of an explanation, wouldn't you?

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Abu on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:24pm

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....


probably best that you don't mention the sledging since your first 3 or 4 posts (as far as I have seen) since joining in this afternoon have been to sledge, first me then mothra  :D :D

you wouldn't want anyone to think your a duplicitous old geezer now would you.




He's almost as bad as Cods for constantly doing precisely what he criticises. Almost.

But she is legendary.


True, but FD is the only poster here who avoids answering if he upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the Muselman. He'll run away if you ask.

Here he is accusing Greggery of making up stats, demanding you tell him where Greggery got them from, and starting up new threads accusing Greggery and the apologists for being dirty old rotters.

So tell me this, Mother, do you uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against Whitey?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:45pm

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....


probably best that you don't mention the sledging since your first 3 or 4 posts (as far as I have seen) since joining in this afternoon have been to sledge, first me then mothra  :D :D

you wouldn't want anyone to think your a duplicitous old geezer now would you.




He's almost as bad as Cods for constantly doing precisely what he criticises. Almost.

But she is legendary.


And so do you and you are.

For a woman of such self professed intelligence with so much to do .... why are you even here?

Seems like you put in more time here than administering to your social crusades.  ::)

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Gnads on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:46pm
flop

Title: Re: Careful what you write, folks
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 17th, 2019 at 9:57pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 7:45pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
not to mention the personal sledging that instantly come in .....


probably best that you don't mention the sledging since your first 3 or 4 posts (as far as I have seen) since joining in this afternoon have been to sledge, first me then mothra  :D :D

you wouldn't want anyone to think your a duplicitous old geezer now would you.




He's almost as bad as Cods for constantly doing precisely what he criticises. Almost.

But she is legendary.


And so do you and you are.

For a woman of such self professed intelligence with so much to do .... why are you even here?

Seems like you put in more time here than administering to your social crusades.  ::)


Well, 'smith' - if you can't handle it, get out of the kitchen.  You spend virtually every post sledging someone or other.....

Same for you, mothra... you can try grabbing the high moral ground all you like, but you are just another easy mark with your entrenched victim industry ideology and propensity to deal on the man and not the issue ... kitchen door's right over there....

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