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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #225 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.

It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?

Nope. Greg hasn't lied. He has procvided source for every single one of his claims.

You however, have claimed to have seen these very same statistics "paint a different picture" yet you won;t tell us where, just that you've seen it and that's enough.

Would it be safe to say that you are lying to discredit Greg to minimise the existence of right wing extremism? Is this because of your own ideology or the vies you allow to be expressed on your forum?

Or both?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36208 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #226 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:06pm He's banned Greg? Oh that's pathetic. I'm next i suppose. Don't question the overlord.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #227 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists. If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.

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According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. Grin

No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39447 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #228 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:11pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:09pm: None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from. Show us then Effendi.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #229 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists. If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.

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According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. Grin

No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.

if you read the article they explain how they came to the figure. The figures may be right, or they may be incorrect. Either way it's irrelevant. If you want to say they are incorrect, you need to give reason for saying so. Wishful thinking doesn't cut it.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #230 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:29pm mothra wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:06pm: He's banned Greg? Oh that's pathetic. I'm next i suppose. Don't question the overlord. Here's hoping.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #231 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists. If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.

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According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. Grin

No John, I said Greg posted lies. None of you can show where Greg's statistics come from.

if you read the article they explain how they came to the figure. The figures may be right, or they may be incorrect. Either way it's irrelevant. If you want to say they are incorrect, you need to give reason for saying so. Wishful thinking doesn't cut it.

Which article? I managed to track down the supposed original source for one of the statistics, but they were not at the link provided.

Does the article say where the statistics are actually from?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #232 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:46pm

Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #233 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:49pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT

Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #234 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:52pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT

Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?

To whom are you referring?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36208 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #235 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:55pm
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #236 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Love the way apologists cherry pick facts to win an unwinable argument.

Let's say, there were no muzzo attacks in and Antartica in the last 20 years.
That is a fact.

But another fact that apologist, sychophant islamophiles refuse to even consider.
Is the total barbarity and violence of the CULT of DEATH.

Let's remove the cherry picking shall we.
Let's look at muzzo atrocities in the whole world, not just cherry picked easy marks.

Now we have some real terrorism.
Muzzos murder, commit genocide and rape more people in the world than any other culture, group, CULT or religion.

They destroy art
Murder pooftahs
Kill young girls who have been raped
Burn Christian churches , some even with people in them.
Blow up children
Cut the hands off their own people
Stone women
Cut off women's genitals so they get no pleasure
Murder everyone they can

These are facts
The fact that they do it far more prolifically in countries where they rule is neither here nor there, it is still done at a far greater rate than all the other groups combined.

Given the opportunity, they will impose this violence anywhere they can
This CULT of DEATH is the devils CULT, ruled and preached by sick turds who worship a sociopath, coward, murdering , self confessed pedophile nutcase.

There is no positive side to this CULT.
All they have given to this world, the only contribution they have made to this world is terrorism on a grand scale, destruction of art, culture, trust and freedom.

It is a worthless, nay, disgusting desease that need to be eliminated.

Any who support this CULT of DEATH are either stupid, retarded, twisted or terrified of this CULT

Yep

and while we're at it, how come non of the feminists in here have much, if anything, to say about female genital mutilation?

huh?

To whom are you referring?

Greg, long ago, while your parents were obviously neglecting their parental duties, you must have learned that firing questions often resulted in people responding to you automatically

and it's something you've employed ever since when in a tight spot -- to varying degrees of success

this is not one of your successes

so again, why aren't the vocal 'feminists' in this forum -- particularly while championing islam for pay -- spoken out about another Islamic atrocity -- that of female genital mutilation?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #237 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:57pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:05pm: