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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #210 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:38pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:33pm:

AH love it. Post figures which unequivocally shows the major source of terrorism in Australia, and the only comeback is a personal attack means a white flag.

Once more for those that missed it.

100% of all terror incidents in Australia in the last 10 years was done by Muslims, who make up just 2% of the population.

St opp telling the truth ffs.
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Reply #211 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

You claim to have seen where Greg's stats paint a very different picture, FD.

Why are you leading your members on a merry dance?

Is it to try to deflect from the seriousness of right wing extremism?

Why would you do that?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #212 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

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The first claim .. According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh." he quoted directly from the site, the writer of the article attributed his claims to the FBI, not Greg

Has anyone been able to verify these FBI stats?

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The second claim '"71 percent of killings related to extremism have been committed by white supremacists between 2008 and 2017, while extremists related to groups like Al Qaeda, are responsible for 26 percent of fatal violence." he did not attributed to the FBI

Are you saying they were made up?

Of course not.

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Reply #213 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

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Reply #214 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #215 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

So you haven't seen where Greg's stats "paint a very different picture'?

Why would you lie?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #216 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #217 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39445 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #218 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm Quote: you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies' Not to mention....ban ban ban.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #219 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.

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Reply #220 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm

The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists. If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.

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According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77732 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #221 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:58pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm: His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. on what basis have you determined that they are lies .... I mean apart from wishful thinking? And since when is posting lies on the internet a banable offence?
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #222 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:58pm

mothra wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.

It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?

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Reply #223 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:01pm

rhino wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

The actual truth of the matter is that even if we exclude 9/11 death scores from terrorism committed in the US are about equal between right wing and Muslim extremists. If we include 9/11 which any logical semi intelligent person would then the Muslims are far ahead. If we include all the possibly tens of thousands of early deaths resulting from the 9/11 Muslim attacks against the US then they are unbeatable in the terrorist death and disablement of innocent people stakes. Considering they are about 3 percent of the population they certainly punch above their weight.

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According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 94, respectively). However, 52 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

according to FD, these are lies . No one has been able to verify the stats. Grin

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #224 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:04pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:34pm:

So Greg posts lies, but it is up to everyone else to provide the evidence?

Has anyone here been able to track down where his statistics came from?

you don't need to provide evidence of any lies greg put up, just evidence to support your claim that they are lies ... FYI. you repeating a claim you made earlier does not constitute evidence.

The fact that neither Greg nor anyone else can back up his claims or come up with the original stats is all the evidence I need.

Greg lied.

greg back up his comments, he provided the links to his source ... you on the other hand are sticking your head in the sand crying 'lies, lies, lies'

His 'sources' are just parroting lies made elsewhere on the internet. The source for his FBI statistics for example is not the FBI.

Greg lied, and none of you can show where his statistics actually came from.

Nope. The onus is on you to show where you have seen barely presented statistics shown in a 'different light'.

This is your claim and you are being held to it.

It was right here in this thread Mothra. Are you saying that whether Greg lied depends on the existence of alternative statistics?

So many questions and no answers. Very annoying isn't it Effendi. Here's one for you...WHY DID YOU BAN PECCERRY?

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