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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #120 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:45pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

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there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

Are your eyes working today?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Are yours?

Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #121 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:46pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.

Go you freedom fighters, yeah?

And what is your dog in the fight?

I don;t want to share a society with fascists.

I can't believe i'm actually having to delineate that.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #122 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?

So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

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Reply #123 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.

"In some ways, the precursors to the racist murders mirror those before foreign terrorist attacks. The radicalization, specifically online, is similar to those who pledge allegiance to ISIS or al Qaeda, experts say. One of the noticeable differences is these extremists are white.

"Timothy Caughman's murderer focused on his hatred for African American men before traveling to New York City and killing him.

"In the three weeks before Jackson attacked, he spent huge amounts of his days and nights online studying Nazism and extremism until he was apparently pushed over the edge, Vance said. Interracial dating was an "insurmountable problem," in his mind. He read obsessively about Dylann Roof, who killed nine black worshippers in Charleston in 2015, Vance said.

"The racial world war starts today," Jackson wrote in his manifesto, according to Vance. "Negroes are obviously first on the list for extermination."

"The gunman in Charleston and the Pittsburgh and Poway suspects all engaged in hateful speech online before taking their rage and turning it into deadly action.

"Officials acknowledge this pattern and it's one reason that Selim believes something can be done to stop these people who are sometimes categorized as untraceable "lone wolves."

'The new normal': Radicalized white men

This is why I keep a very close eye on people like Captain Caveman, Valkie, et al.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #124 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:54pm

Mothra lying:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.

Mothra attempting to shift the goal posts, but still lying:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

From when you clearly said that Islamic terrorism was barely active in the US.

Mothra using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?

So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

Mothra are you trying to delude yourself, or prove my point with irony? I was explaining how the statistics are misleading, and you responded by being mislead.

Is there anyone here who defends Islam without outright lies or misleading statistics?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #125 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:56pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?

So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

He did say they were barely active.

Sounds like an admission to me.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #127 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?

So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

He did say they were barely active.

Sounds like an admission to me.

The backpedalling is tres amusing.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #128 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. Roll Eyes

All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."

And what exactly have they done.

Except to cover up or deflect?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #129 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

Are your eyes working today?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Are yours?

Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

Wink

78% of 50. Roll Eyes

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #130 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:26pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. Roll Eyes

All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."

And what exactly have they done.

Except to cover up or deflect?

They've helped to produce a well-researched, fact-based report that proves beyond all doubt that Jihadists were only responsible for 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #131 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:27pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

Are your eyes working today?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Are yours?

Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

Wink

78% of 50. Roll Eyes

That's correct.

Why are you rolling your eyes?

Were you hoping for more deaths?

Shocked

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98910	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #132 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:36pm freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:54pm: Is there anyone here who defends Islam without outright lies or misleading statistics? That's a good question, FD. Do you uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the Muselman? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #133 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

Are your eyes working today?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Are yours?

Sure are.

78% = white supremacist.

2% = Islamic.

Wink

78% of 50. Roll Eyes

That's correct.

Why are you rolling your eyes?

Were you hoping for more deaths?

Shocked

You know very well why.

and no I wasn't hoping for more ... did I say that I was?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #134 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

Nasty little buggers, those neo-Nazis.

Here's the little twerp:

https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/106/70/f4d615fd0b290a1d-2048x1024.jp...

There are good and bad people on both sides, Greggery. FD's always said that.

Not the Muselman, of course. He's just bad. FD's referring more to our white supremacist friends.

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