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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51284 At my desk.	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #105 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm You lied Mothra.
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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #106 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.

Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #107 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51284 At my desk.	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #108 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm: I never lie. I don't need to: You lied Mothra. Or are you using Islam- inspired self delusion as a defense?
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Reply #109 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm

Nfreediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

Barely active, no?

And who are the freedom fighters, FD?

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Reply #110 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.

Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.

Why should I read the report?

Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #111 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:38pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. Roll Eyes

Ah.

Europol, and every law enforcement agency in Europe is lying.

I see.

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Reply #112 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:39pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

Nfreediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You lied Mothra.

You said Islamic terrorists were barely active in the US. Right here:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

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there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

You are shifting the goal posts already Mothra. But you are still lying.

Are you using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense?

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Reply #113 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:08pm:

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Fair way shy of the tally by Islamic terrorists.

78 is more than 2.

Year nine maths, innit?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Yeah in context ... it was for 50 deaths.

50 compared to thousands

and a few hundred compared to hundreds of thousands

year 9 maths innit. Roll Eyes

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Reply #114 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:41pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:39pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

Nfreediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You lied Mothra.

You said Islamic terrorists were barely active in the US. Right here:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

You are shifting the goal posts already Mothra. But you are still lying.

Are you using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense?

Just copy and pasting your own words FD. From when you clearly said that Islamic terrorism was barely active in the US.

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #115 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:41pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Here you are doing the same thing. Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

Incorrect.

Read the report.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist" is not an identifiable ideology. Islam is.

Nobody said it was.

Read the report.

They're all named.

Why should I read the report?

Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics.

You'll look less foolish.

By (incorrectly) repeating that "Islam is the only identifiable movement in those statistics", you're looking very silly indeed.

It also looks like you're defending non-Muslim terrorists.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36213 Gender:	Re: Careful what you write, folks Reply #116 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm: You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?
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Reply #117 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

Are your eyes working today?

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width_img_lg/public/...

Are yours?

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Re: Careful what you write, folks
Reply #118 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:43pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

Europe?

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Separatist = 67%

Jihadist = 16%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

The EU's credibility in any of this is shyte... their unelected law enforcement section especially. Roll Eyes

All lying, according to Gnads:

"I would like to thank all EU Member
States, Eurojust and our cooperation
partners outside the EU for their
contributions to the TE-SAT 2018.

"Finally, I would like to acknowledge
the work of the members of the
Advisory Board, consisting of the
‘troika’ (Presidencies of the Council
of the EU, namely Estonia, Bulgaria
and Austria), France, Spain, Eurojust,
the EU Intelligence and Situation
Centre (INTCEN) and the Office of the
EU Counter-Terrorism Coordinator.

"Their valuable contributions were
indispensable for the production of this
2018 edition of the TE-SAT."

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Reply #119 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:44pm

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

...
there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

Why is we don't hear about it then?

We sure hear about Islamic atrocities globally.

Are the FBI stats global?

Could this be ... ? I dare not hope ... but could this be ... Gnads ... having an epiphany?

It's not though is it. It's him thinking he's made a point.

Better than fudging stats to make a point.

When it comes to numbers of deaths far right white extremists don't rate in comparison .....

and you know it.

As for the rise in far right extremist activity what do you think is causing that?

I'd say it may have a fair bit to do with the extreme lefty progressive ideology that is being pushed through our education systems and society.

Go you freedom fighters, yeah?

And what is your dog in the fight?

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