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Reply #90 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:52pm
 
Thanks Lee........ Cool

Well ladies and gentlemen there you have it straight from the archbishops / Vatican (IPCC)'s mouth on Anthropogenic Global Warming..

They even have the gall to put it right under your nose.

Study that highlighted sentence and try to understand what it means.

Only then will you be able extricate yourselves from this false religion called AGW.

Become a sheep dog and stop being a sheeple........!!!

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https://www.ipcc-data.org/guidelines/pages/reporting.html

Just in case you have difficulty seeing it,


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In fact the absolute concentrations are not especially important, as the temperature response to increasing CO2 concentration is logarithmic - a doubling from 500 to 1000 ppmv would have approximately the same climatic effect.


The CO2 logarithmic graph


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Reply #91 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm
 
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But that is the role of science. It is scientists trying to disprove a theory or hypothesis. Not a consensus that it must be right.


Nay, dear, there must indeed be a consensus to prove it right. The scientific method is a process of peer review. None of your arguments have been found to be sound - not a one.

After all, you don't get any points for trying to disprove a thesis. To date, no one has disproved the science of global warming.

If they did, we could all breathe a huge sigh of relief.
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Reply #92 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:14pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
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But that is the role of science. It is scientists trying to disprove a theory or hypothesis. Not a consensus that it must be right.


Nay, dear, there must indeed be a consensus to prove it right. The scientific method is a process of peer review. None of your arguments have been found to be sound - not a one.

After all, you don't get any points for trying to disprove a thesis. To date, no one has disproved the science of global warming.

If they did, we could all breathe a huge sigh of relief.


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Reply #93 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:29pm
 
Ajax, is that ewe?
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Reply #94 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:29pm:
Ajax, is that ewe?


Haha nahhhh that's not me....!

I would think that's your reflectional in the mirror... Cheesy

That's me right there in black and white...... Wink

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Reply #97 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:39pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
Nay, dear, there must indeed be a consensus to prove it right.


Nope. In science nothing is proved right. it is only proved wrong. Rad up on the null hypothesis.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
The scientific method is a process of peer review.


And Climate ScienceTM is more about Pal review.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
None of your arguments have been found to be sound - not a one.


So says the man who won't quote any report peer-reviewed or not. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
After all, you don't get any points for trying to disprove a thesis.


But that is what science is supposed to be about.

"The two primary features of a scientific hypothesis are falsifiability and testability, which are reflected in an “If…then” statement summarizing the idea and in the ability to be supported or refuted through observation and experimentation. The notion of the scientific hypothesis as both falsifiable and testable was advanced in the mid-20th century by Austrian-born British philosopher Karl Popper."

https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-hypothesis

Falsifiable - proving the theory or hypothesis wrong.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
To date, no one has disproved the science of global warming.


You do understand the difference between the science of global warming and the amount of global warming? How much of any warming is man-made; that is AGW? Of course if you are paid to look for AGW you don't want to put yourself out of a job.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
If they did, we could all breathe a huge sigh of relief.



Jobs, high paying jobs rely on it. AGW is a billion dollar a year industry. Just think what that could do for the poor in those countries that die from using dung fires for food and warmth.
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Reply #98 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 6:05pm
 
Ajax wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:29pm:
Ajax, is that ewe?


Haha nahhhh that's not me....!

I would think that's your reflectional in the mirror... Cheesy

That's me right there in black and white...... Wink

https://i.ibb.co/2FmWwHT/sheepdog.jpg



More than a hint of collie there Ajax
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Reply #99 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 6:55pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:34am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:00am:
Like I said, you'd have to be living under a rock to miss that one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Existence_of_

a_scientific_consensus



Oh dear A wiki fanboy. You do know even schools warn against using wiki as a reference? It isn't reliable. Grin Grin Grin Grin


I thought you might be able to look at the long list of references yourself. They exist, regardless of wikipedia. After the idiocy you have copied and pasted here, mostly unsourced, it's a bit hypocritical for you to have a go at wikipedia. But I guess blatant hypocrisy is pretty much a pre-requisite these days to be a climate skeptic.
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Reply #100 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 6:55pm:
I thought you might be able to look at the long list of references yourself. They exist, regardless of wikipedia. After the idiocy you have copied and pasted here, mostly unsourced, it's a bit hypocritical for you to have a go at wikipedia. But I guess blatant hypocrisy is pretty much a pre-requisite these days to be a climate skeptic.



You men like Nature magazine, IPCC?

Now that wiki article says there is a consensus on climate change. Although that wasn't my argument. I said science wasn't done by consensus.

"Among the most-cited is a 2013 study of nearly 12,000 abstracts science published since 1990, of which just over 4,000 papers expressed an opinion on the cause of recent global warming. Of these, 97% agree, explicitly or implicitly, that global warming is happening and is human-caused.[2][3]"


So ok I looked at a reference. John Cook et al 2013.

Now I have linked to this before because quite often people say the Cook et al paper says that 97% of climate scientists say global warming is happening and is human caused.

From the paper referenced -

"We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11 944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming."

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024

11.,944 papers. 68.4% had no opinion.
32.6% endorsed AGW
0.7% rejected, and
0.3% were unsure.

From that we can take that 33.3% expressed an opinion on climate change (lines 2 and 3). 97.1% of that 33.3% of abstracts (not climate scientists) endorsed the consensus.

So 33.3% of 97.1% is  32.33%. NOT 97% of abstracts or climate scientists.

Further the number of climate scientists who said more than 50% warming was due to AGW was 0.3% or 41 papers.

This can be seen at -

https://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/media/erl460291datafile.txt

Reference "Endorsement"

And should you wish to look you can see the ratings given at column 3.

https://skepticalscience.com/docs/self_vs_abstracts_private.txt

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Reply #101 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:42pm
 
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You men like Nature magazine, IPCC?


I cannot say. You copied and pasted a lot of incredibly stupid or irrelevant stuff in this thread without saying where you got it from. I'm guessing this is the irrelevant stuff?
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Reply #102 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
I'm guessing this is the irrelevant stuff?


much like your guessing on climate change and the CONsensus. Grin Grin Grin Grin

And I shot down your ONLY reference.
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Reply #103 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:53pm
 
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Of course if you are paid to look for AGW you don't want to put yourself out of a job.


When Mr Abbott defunded the Climate Commission, they went and became the volunteer Climate Council.

How do academics make money out of climate change? If it didn't exist, they'd merely research and write articles on other stuff.

The only people making money out of climate change that I can see are those paid to write your research paid for by the fossil fuel lobby.

You?
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Reply #104 - Apr 9th, 2019 at 8:02pm
 
Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
When Mr Abbott defunded the Climate Commission, they went and became the volunteer Climate Council.



The Climate Council is a volunteer organisation? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

"We’re made up of some of the country’s leading climate scientists, energy, health and policy experts, as well as a dedicated team of staff, and a huge community of volunteers and supporters who support our work."

"The Climate Council was founded in 2013 by tens of thousands of supporters, in Australia’s largest ever crowd-funding campaign, to create a new, independent and 100% community-funded organisation in response to the abolition of the Australian Climate Commission.  "

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/faqs/

You did notice they didn't say THEY volunteer. Wink

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
How do academics make money out of climate change? If it didn't exist, they'd merely research and write articles on other stuff.


it saves them looking for another job. Wink

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
The only people making money out of climate change that I can see are those paid to write your research paid for by the fossil fuel lobby.


You mean like Nature magazine, IPCC, NASA? All those fossil fuel funded organisations? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

What a tool.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
You?


I am  paid by the Feds under either Labor or the Coalition, and if I don't win Lotto that won't change. You see petal I am an old age pensioner with a small super. Wink
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