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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #60 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 9:16am We haven't gotten to plausible yet. We are still at the vague conspiracy theory stage. I don't recall ever coming across vague references to the "christian establishment" or any other such conspiracy nonsense in legitimate textbooks. Where are you getting these history books from Gandalf? A Muslim school?
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Reply #61 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:17am

Isn't it funny how every time we get to a particular interpretation of events that FD hasn't heard of, it turns into a "must be a sinister muslim conspiracy" line of attack.

Yes FD, talking about a conservative "Christian establishment" in reference to the elites of an early 20th century western European society is just unheard of, and plainly ridiculous isn't it Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #62 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:50pm What textbooks are you getting this from Gandalf? Have you ever seen a textbook outside of a Muslim school blame the "Christian Establishment" for the Nazis?
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Reply #63 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 1:41pm

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:50pm:

What textbooks are you getting this from Gandalf? Have you ever seen a textbook outside of a Muslim school blame the "Christian Establishment" for the Nazis?

Nazism: The breaking of the Christian Cross (Swastika) and renounciation of Religion (like Jews) out of Europe.

The Moslems will do to the French (Christians), what the Germans did to the Jews.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #64 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:57pm freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:50pm: outside of a Muslim school You literally can't help yourself can you? Here's a challenge - try just one day of replying to me without resorting to nasty personal attacks.
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Reply #65 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:50pm:

outside of a Muslim school

You literally can't help yourself can you?

Here's a challenge - try just one day of replying to me without resorting to nasty personal attacks.

You suggested I look in a textbook as a way of evading a question. Not sure about you, but I generally associate textbooks with schools Gandalf.

Have you ever seen a mainstream textbook blame the "Christian establishment" for the Nazis?

Where did you actually get this from?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #66 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 9:41am Get back to me when you're done acting like a toddler FD. Where do I "get" that a christian conservative elite held sway over an early 20th century western European society? Gee wizz you got me there FD, I mean its such a ludicrous concept, it must be a sinister muslim conspiracy right?
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Reply #67 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:05pm

Germany was a democracy when Hitler first came to power.

The term you used was "Christian Establishment". Have you ever seen a legitimate textbook blame the christian establishment for the Nazis?

So far the closest you have come to identifying this "establishment" is a vague reference to a historical elite controlling the military.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #68 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:35pm I love the way FD dresses up his willful ignorance of all things history - as me being evasive and vague because I won't spoonfeed him the most basic facts of history. He's playing exactly the same game in the "what do you mean stuff happens in Africa??" thread.
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Reply #69 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

I love the way FD dresses up his willful ignorance of all things history - as me being evasive and vague because I won't spoonfeed him the most basic facts of history.

He's playing exactly the same game in the "what do you mean stuff happens in Africa??" thread.

Yes, G, but maybe FD's curious. Have you considered that?

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Reply #70 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:06pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

I love the way FD dresses up his willful ignorance of all things history - as me being evasive and vague because I won't spoonfeed him the most basic facts of history.

He's playing exactly the same game in the "what do you mean stuff happens in Africa??" thread.

Can you give an example of an actual textbook that blames the Nazis on the "Christian Establishment"?

Did I guess right that you read it in a Muslim school?

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Reply #71 - Feb 13^th, 2019 at 12:20pm

freediver wrote on Feb 12^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Can you give an example of an actual textbook that blames the Nazis on the "Christian Establishment"?

FD demands some proof that Germany was a christian society, essentially run by christian-conservative elites, without whose accommodation and tacit approval, the nazis would never have gained a foothold.

Its is in the same vein as "can you give an example of a news outlet that covers bad stuff in Africa?"

Next week he'll be demanding evidence supporting the devious muslim conspiracy that Athens is the capital of Greece, or some such.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #72 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm It's a simple question Gandalf. You told me to look pick a textbook. Can you give an example of an actual textbook that blames the Nazis on the "Christian Establishment"?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #73 - Feb 14^th, 2019 at 1:58pm freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 12:23pm: It's a simple question Gandalf. You told me to look pick a textbook. Its an even simpler instruction. Evidently beyond you though.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47531 At my desk.	Re: blaming Nazis good, blaming Muslims bad Reply #74 - Feb 15^th, 2019 at 12:54pm Gandalf if this is your own crackpot conspiracy theory then you should own it and stop pretending that any textbook we pick up (outside of a Muslim school?) will blame some nebulous "Christian establishment" for the Nazis.
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