Using color of the skin - a mere reflection and absorption of light as basis for one's action and quality is both infantile and ignorant. 

The Donald understands it perfectly because he is the very epitome of the durr state, dear. His entire life to date has been accumulating tacky baubles in an attempt to show how great he is. Gold-plated lifts, fake Renoirs, the most expensive private yacht in the world that he bought only to say that he had the most expensive yacht in the world.

The money? It all came from his dad and investors who lost their shirts. The truth is the Donald owns the most kitch apartment in the world, full of fake Louis IV furniture and gold-plated fittings.

The Donald lives the durr state, dear. He's a spoilt rich kid who's been carried on the "narrow path to success". He has no idea of how Fat Steve and Janeen live, just that in Amerika, they value all that krap.

The Donald thinks this makes him "respectable". The Superior Man sees a man in the durr state - a man incapable of governing his own life. The Donald values krap. He has no sense of work, drive or integrity. He sells the Trump brand as the mark of success, but no one in the US can invest because of the bankruptcies - no bank or insurer will underwrite it.The Trump brand is a financial risk because of the Donald.

The "narrow path to success" is paved with discipline, integrity, honesty, compassion. All the great books and teachings tell you this. The Donald is the only man to sell a series of ghostwritten self-help books that instruct people on to get one over the other guy. Just imagine: books like How To Win Friends and Influence People teach listening, understanding, cooperation, win-win. The Donald instructs his followers to make the other guy lose. The other guy has to give away something dear to him to satisfy the Donald. He calls this an art.

You?

The government does NOT need that drama, Aquascoot, and they can name the three branches of government. That's their job.

The public are dismayed by the Donald's Tweets. His staffers and cabinet are even more dismayed. Many have resigned over them. Polls show that around 70% of voters think he should focus on his job. Even his loyalists, Fat Steve and Janeen, say he should cut down on the Tweets and act more like a president.

The US presidency runs the world's biggest military. It's responsible for US security and foreign policy, which includes other countries' security.

The Donald is undermining this all on his own. His party disagrees with his stance, the intelligence community clearly disagrees, and the general public disagree. The Donald's foreign policies are counter-productive and unanimously unpopular. Chinese tariffs have decimated some US exports, particularly agriculture. His sanctions on Iran oppose the consensus of the rest of the world, who continue to trade. Obama's deal worked. Iran ceased its nuclear program. The Donald has welched on the deal.

Then there's Syria and ISIS - completely out of step with US intelligence. Imagine, the president has an entire agency who's job is to give him foreign intelligence, and the Donald brushes it aside.

The Donald has another agency telling him about the Mexican border. The Donald ignores them and pretends crooks murderers and drug smugglers are coming over the border. None of them are. All those crooks he mentions entered the US on visas. The drug and gun caches laid out for the media? Seized at entry check points.

So I'm curious. Do you think world leaders should create fake, counter-productive and even dangerous policies to entertain the masses?

And no, dear, I don't feel cheated. I've been telling you this all along.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 8:19pm:


Here are the links, for the last time.

Use them, don't use them, I don't care.

But what you do next dictates your motives and makes your intent on this subject clear for everyone to see.

Episode Rating: M
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Contact the Classification Board to complain about the rating
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How to report suspicious behaviour online
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Report offensive or illegal content
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But for the record, you are literally the only person in the world complaining that this is Child Exploitation Material...

I've looked.  It's not even mentioned on Wikipedia or even those silly Christian Mothers groups.

It is literally only you. 

And you're not doing anything about it...

You're not special, you've not stumbled on a hidden truth, there is no conspiracy, you're just trolling.  It's very telling about you that you'd exploit this very real and serious issue in this way.

The evidence is there for all to see.

You've been exposed.

Tell me this, do you know how the drugs enter the country?

Here is a "hint", it's through the ports of entry.  We know this because of statistics released by the Government of their official agencies who fight this.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that?

We also know that when it comes to crime, those in the US illegally make up a very small percentage of the perpetrators.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with reducing Crime, Rape and Murder like the President claims?

We also know of those illegals, the vast majority don't enter the US via illegal border crossings but instead overstay after legal entry.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that?

If the problem is so severe that it necessitates a National Emergency, why is the solution proposed so off the target?

From the evidence, including those showing that all the incidents that Trump and his supporters are claiming we need a wall to resolve have been on a decline over the last 40 years and some are even at all time lows.

It's almost as if there is no emergency...?

This is what people mean when they say you have no evidence to support your claims.

It is a 100% politically motivated proposal to help Trump in the 2020 election that is exploiting laws, bypassing the constitution and disrespecting the country and their people.

Trump and his supporters are not, and never have, taken an evidence-based approach.  This time, however, he's taken it a step too far and not even the normalising of his standard dishonest behaviour can protect him this time. 

Disrespecting the constitution, the people and the country is something not even his fellow Republicans will take lying down.

25th Amendment.

Imagine if these actions that he's taken become normalised.

Imagine a far left President using the National Emergency Powers to force anything from allowing abortion (due to overpopulation or for the safety of mothers) on a federal scale, enforcing Gun restrictions because the streets have become a warzone or taking real action on climate change?

Is this a door you really want to forever be left open?

That is a good post

Spot

Tell me this, do you know how the drugs enter the country?

Here is a "hint", it's through the ports of entry.  We know this because of statistics released by the Government of their official agencies who fight this.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that?

We also know that when it comes to crime, those in the US illegally make up a very small percentage of the perpetrators.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with reducing Crime, Rape and Murder like the President claims?

We also know of those illegals, the vast majority don't enter the US via illegal border crossings but instead overstay after legal entry.

It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that?

If the problem is so severe that it necessitates a National Emergency, why is the solution proposed so off the target?

From the evidence, including those showing that all the incidents that Trump and his supporters are claiming we need a wall to resolve have been on a decline over the last 40 years and some are even at all time lows.

It's almost as if there is no emergency...?

This is what people mean when they say you have no evidence to support your claims.

It is a 100% politically motivated proposal to help Trump in the 2020 election that is exploiting laws, bypassing the constitution and disrespecting the country and their people.

Trump and his supporters are not, and never have, taken an evidence-based approach.  This time, however, he's taken it a step too far and not even the normalising of his standard dishonest behaviour can protect him this time. 

Disrespecting the constitution, the people and the country is something not even his fellow Republicans will take lying down.

25th Amendment.

Imagine if these actions that he's taken become normalised.

Imagine a far left President using the National Emergency Powers to force anything from allowing abortion (due to overpopulation or for the safety of mothers) on a federal scale, enforcing Gun restrictions because the streets have become a warzone or taking real action on climate change?

Is this a door you really want to forever be left open?

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:


Well said sir!

A racist Islamophobe (am I allowed to call him that?) walks into 2 mosques and shoots nearly 100 people. You then have a clearly disturbed contributor here literally celebrating the attack, and apparently someone else has said that she wishes all muslim men women and children to die.

Apart from that we have another long time member routinely calling for the entire Australian muslim population to be forcibly interned into detention camps, while several others regularly calling for mass deportation and wholesale bans on anything Islamic. Whatever you say about the muslims here or their spineless apologists, never have they said anything remotely comparable to this about any contemporary Islamist attack.

When faced with this very real toxic, and downright dangerous culture being nurtured and fostered on this forum - the exact same culture that this terrorist emerged from on other forums - you dismiss it by flippantly referencing a poster who left over 6 years ago.

What I'm trying to say FD, is that the posters who use this forum to air their offensive bigotry might be the next Brenton Tarrant, or inspiring and motivating him. And I think its about time you started taking such unhinged and inciteful bigotry more seriously.

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:


One Nation has no clear policy direction, they just have a smothering of generalised principles that have not basis or structure to them. They want to implement Trump style policies in Australia which are discriminatory and have no basis other than a reactionary policy. To add onto that One Nation believe they are scientists and climate scientists and deny climate change despite the fact 97% of scientists agree it is occurring and to varying extents caused by humans. 

They also want to:
- Withdraw from the Paris Agreement 
- "We do not believe that further stringent measures or regulations are required regarding licensing" After the current event this policy is quite appalling
- Travel Ban

When a party website has two sentences for policies under the Higher Education tab, you really have to question the depth, scope and capabilities of this party.

In relation to the Shooters Party....this is the ill informed party who want to weaken our gun laws into a US style system. Look at where the US is at.

A workplace fatality doesn't just affect the family of the man killed

His workmates, extended family, even other people outside the workplace are affected.

Several years ago, a man died after slipping on oil
His mate gave him a light kick in the ribs and told him to stop mucking about
When he didn't move he checked him and found no pulse
First aid were called immediately
But the poor sod was dead when he hit the ground, caved in his skull.

His mate who jokingly kicked him never worked again
The magistrate was a baseturd pushing the guy almost to suicide.
The first aiders then quit, they could not work there any more
Several other worked quit, they lost a mate and didn't want to be where it happened
The safety manager retired through severe depression, even though there was nothing he could have done, he was also suicidal after the magistrate pontificate for ever.

The owner lasted a short while and sold the business, putting off remaining staff.

Safety is everyone's business
And
You are responsible for both your own and everyone else's safety

A slip can kill you

Be careful out there
It's dangerous

Yadda, you are a disgrace to humanity. You turn every subject into an Islamophobic hate rant.

The majority of boat people refugee applicants have been shown to be refugees..... and none to date allowed entry has become a terrorist or anything like it...

https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_...

Posted for the umpteenth time...

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_...

Around 80% are proven to be genuine refugees...... a severe contrast with  with 'onshore' asylum seekers.... HALF (50% ) of 'onshore' asylum seekers are approved, as opposed to 80% of 'offshore'.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-ri...

I think many of you could educate yourselves on the facts about asylum seekers - ALL kinds... and not listen to the media and the fear mongers for political advantage ......

Americans believe they should be allowed to own a gun 'cause you have a right to own a gun, rather than a demonstrated need to own a gun. 

Jasin wrote on May 20^th, 2019 at 9:56pm:




Does community radio count?

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Yes, FD.....best sort Gordon out, ey?

... if someone makes an accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...

As posted in another thread.

The absolute nerve of this bloke. The bloke has been earning a million bucks a year for quite a few years and is now asking strangers to pay for his legal fees. Unreal.

He's trying to frame this as a great fight for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. But it's not. He's fighting a breach of contract.

Oh but he was happy to throw his religious beliefs out the window a few years ago when, in an effort to gain lucrative sponsorships, expand his fan base and boost his profile he appeared on the front page of a gay newspaper!

This isn't about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. It's about money. That is all he cares about.

Look, the issue is very simple here.  Folau made an offensive comment on social medial that is against the code of conduct.  That is why he was fired.  Had he being a non christian, and made the same comment, the same would happen as well. 

So this is not a question of religions freedom, but rather code of conduct activities.  There are plenty of Christians out there.  And you dont see them going around uttering non sense that gays are going to hell.  In fact, you will see alot of Christians out there, in the community helping out marginalized people including those of LGBTI communities.

I think whoever in the Australian Christian lobby is handling this issue should be fired.  Its no wonder church attentions are declining over the years especially among young people. 

Mods, can you please do something about Light accusing people of being Paedophiles again?

It's getting rampant.  I stopped counting weeks ago after it reached 10 accusations but it hasn't stopped, and that's just me alone.

Surely this is one of those situations that it "depends" on right?

Why do you assume this privatised police force is there to help the unemployed? It shows how little you really know. They are there for one reason only - COMPLIANCE. Scrapping them and the associated red tape would save billions without any impact on services because they hardly provide any services.

The Coalition only introduced them because their mates are making an absolute mint out of this bloated gravy train and the Coalition get paid kickbacks. Labor's not got clean hands either - have a look at what Kevin Rudd's wife does for a living.

And it's a massive waste of money. Many of these providers operate out of offices that are only open for one day a week. How much money is being wasted renting all of those offices? That alone is sufficient to show that the system is bloated and it can be streamlined with deep cuts without any impact on services at all.

A better model: abolish the privatised providers, abolish the other compliance burdens and ridiculous red tape imposed on the unemployed, reinstate the CES and introduce a Job Guarantee. So much money can be saved by scrapping the current bloated system that the savings could easily fund a $75 a week increase to Newstart. Alternatively, it can fund enough work for a Job Guarantee paying award wages for three days' work a week for every unemployed worker in the country.

You really do yourself a disservice by posting like someone who can barely grasp the fundamentals of the English language and the written word.

Your hypocrisy aside, I agree with you about some of the problems with the left, but for different, real reasons, not the fanciful pseudo-psychology you employ that has the single goal of defending Trump and even rewriting history to do so.

It's not just the left who are at fault, the right has some major fundamental issues that is fracturing the country.  Their hyperpartisanship is destroying their own lives.

Take the farmers, they support Trump but it's his policies in trade and foreign relations that are destroying their lives and livelihoods on a scale never seen before.

He's running the budget into the ground now throwing out billions more in handouts to them, all because of his trade war with China.  Even if he's out in 2020, the damage is already done.

China is already going to Brasil for their Soy Beans and Russia for their Wheat.  Just because Trump is out doesn't mean they'll come back and if they do, it won't be at the same level (prices they pay for the goods) it will be lower, that's what happens when you're trying to sell from a point of utter desperate weakness.

But if there is one thing Trump is good at, it's fabricating his situation to hide the desperation and weakness at the foundation.

And on top of that, when the smaller Farms, the real voters, the silent majority, they won't be able to weather the storm like big agribusinesses and multinationals and they'll end up having to sell their farms to these companies who can and it will further consolidate the food industry in the US.

I almost want Trump to win in 2020.  He is wrecking the country but if he leaves office before the consequences of his actions reverberate through the industries he's destroying and the economy at large, whoever is in office after him will get the blame. 

He needs to face the music, people, even the most blinded hyperpartisan need to be slapped out of it.

What is happening to the farmers is 100% the result of Trump's policies and that should terrify him.  Those regions with even a moderate swing will cost Trump 2020. 

This is where the Dems should be focusing.  Yes healthcare is important, education is important, but these people are facing the death of an industry as we know it, all thanks to Trump, and this isn't even factoring in the hardships they're facing that will only get worse as a result of climate change, this is pure economics, driven into the ground, by Trump.

Imagine farmers not being able to sustain their businesses and the US losing their food security, or even more upward pressure on food prices once the industry has been taken over by big for-profit corporations who can set the prices.

America needs to wake up before it's too late.

But again, I almost want Trump to win.  I want these idiots, the Mech's the Scoots, the Trump and the QTards to get what they deserve.  To reap the rewards of what they've sown.

Almost.

I'll still fight for what's best for the people, which is the removal of Trump come 2020, even if they'll fight against it at every step.

Will advertise here I guess because its for an excellent cause


Will be cycling in the Great Cycle Challenge for fighting Childrens Cancer. Goal is 1000 km in October.


https://greatcyclechallenge.com.au/Riders/MichaelLarkin

Christ on a bile you're a bully.

You keep going on about how unpopular certain posters are, based entirely on the behaviour of the other bullies you've aligned yourself with but here's a reality check; most posters   forum don't give a flying bugger about the dramas you've embroiled yourself in. Most people don;t have an opinion either way of Aussie. They don't care who posts at Monk's and they are sick to death of this constant bullshit.

Just a very vocal minority keep this up and well pleased they are that you do so much of the dirty work for them.

And if you're talking about the over representation of bigots on this forum, well, that's just what it is. But there are enough here that speak out about it or at least agree with it being challenged to justify those who do's presence amongst us.

Even if it casts you in an unflattering light, given your change of horses.

But enough with the outcasts rubbish. Just because you have a cast of a thousand socks and plenty of conspiratorial pms to maintain your feeling of acceptance and regard, doesn't make you right or spokesperson for the entire forum ... most of whom do not even think about Aussie. Or Monk.

But you keep right on feeling as though you're popular now, It's your obvious motivation. smacking school yard bullying, nothing more.

I agree, Greggery. Mr Trump came to Washington to DRAIN THE SWAMP. And this is the thanks he gets?

So unfair.

It seems to me that Mr Trump has two options: be open and transparent, as per his promise, or use every opportunity to obstruct and hide the facts.

Here, Mr Trump is hiding an ambassador's political campaign contributions - exactly the sort of swamp-like behaviour Mr Trump said he was going to Washington to fix.

But take Mr Trump's tax returns. Last week, Mr Trump said he wanted to release his returns, just like every other candidate since Nixon has done. Mr Trump wants to share with the American people where he gets his money from and how much tax he pays - exactly the type of transparency Mr Trump has been demanding from politicians his whole life. Mr Trump's life, after all, is an open book. He wants his voters to know where he's coming from. Mr Trump is proud of his financial affairs. They're the reason he's above politics, remember. He's a self-made man.

But do you know? Mr Trump said his lawyers and accountants won't let him do it, can you believe it?

So unfair, keeping his voters in the dark like that. Mr Trump's lawyers and accountants are exactly the sort of swamp-dwellers Mr Trump has always complained about. Mr Trump hopes they change their minds.

We'll wait and see what happens.

He was an absolute piece of poo and we're better off without him.

The problem is that there was no streamed footage for Trump to see and talk about at the time, it will never be released and there were no feeds going to the situation room playing audio, let alone showing him sobbing etc.  That cowardly piece of poo blew himself and his children up in a tunnel while being chased by dogs and thankfully there were no US soldiers in site to be hurt when it happened.

But the sobbing Trump spoke about seeing, that was yet another Trump lie.

That said, part of Baghdadi's power in recruiting people to ISIS is that he is a strong Alpha which given that he was a poorly performing academic who got his best scores in Art, he's a fake tough guy.  A ruthless piece of poo, but a fake tough guy nonetheless.  If Trump is trying to tarnish that image to help some of those he's already recruited lose faith in him now he's a martyr or even help reduce future recruitment I'd be ok with this lie.

Sometimes the greater good can justify it.

All of that said, it is interesting the more I find out about Baghdadi, the more similarities there are between him and Trump, to a point anyway.

Both cult leaders, both not as smart as they say they are, both cowards and liars, both accused of raping children, both ran from war and sent others in their place and in the end both used their positions for personal gain and exploited their followers.

One big difference is that Baghdadi grew up a poor farm boy with nothing to his name.  He at least rose to his position on his own...

Gah who am I kidding, glad he's dead, hope it sends a message and while his actions caught up with him, I hope that's another thing him and Trump have in common.

Horse racing is run by organised crime, and protected by corrupt politicians.

That's reason enough to say nup to the cup.

Plus, the horses are abused.

Oh, and they killed one in the cup last year.

What I find interesting about Israel Folau's statement is that here we have bushfires that have occurred, well in the bush.  Now people, generally in the bush, tend to be rather conservative and god fearing people and are more likely to have voted, "no" in the Same-Sex Marriage plebiscite.  Yet they are the ones being punished, according to Israel Folau's reasoning for the Government's approval of Same-Sex Marriage and  homosexuality in general, and so on and so on.  The people in the Capital Cities, where most of those liberal progressives live, where most of the Gays live aren't going to be hurt at all.  Very strange reasoning from Mr.Folau, very strange indeed for God to punish the people who believe in him the most for something other people did.  Christians are really quite strange and illogical.

They're lumped together because Putin resorted to criminal actions to see Mr Trump erected, dear.

Mr Trump has since fought for Putin's interests, fighting congress to stop the Russian sanctions, pretending the Russians didn't hack the Dems, and all manner of Russian foreign policy favours, from trying to weaken NATO to pushing obscure Eastern European conspiracy theories that come directly from Russia.

Mr Trump has even stepped out of Syria to allow Putin a foothold in the Middle East. Putin couldn't have asked for a better Prez, no?

Putin has declared his intentions to reclaim the territory of the former Soviet Union. He did this with Georgia, and he's done it with the Ukraine. He meddles in the erections of a host of Eastern European states, such as Finland and Estonia. He's even meddled as far away as Venezuela, right near Uncle's back door.

No state in or near Europe has been so brazen as challenging the borders of another. Europe has been in an unprecedented state of peace since the end of the Cold War. Putin now challenges this. He has, remember, annexed half of the Ukraine. Putin is the biggest threat to the peace in Europe, not to mention America, where he wages a war of FAKE news. It is believed that the order to shoot down MH17 could not have come from anybody other than Putin.

So yes, Rich. Putin is indeed a threat to the global order. Mr Trump's support for Putin goes not only against US interests, but the entire world's. Mr Trump is probably the only member of his handpicked cabinet, his administration and both houses of government to hold these views, and do you know?

These are not political views. Mr Trump doesn't have them. There is only one way to explain Mr Trump's support for Putin: Putin owns him.

You?

Richdude wrote on Dec 12^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:


Oh, yes you can. Sad writes the best posts on US politics here. He's well-briefed, up-to-date, and balanced. Considered. Nuanced.

You spew out a few hostile words that have one point only: Retards versus Leftards. I'd say your ideology blinds you, but your thoughts aren't even sophisticated enough to be called an ideology.

More a reaction. Your posts reflect the awareness of a clam or sea slug. Purely reactive. Give you a poke and you either close up or ooze some form of slime. You know four or five lies, and you repeat them endlessly.

So yes, dear. You read all Sad's posts. You just don't have the ability to read to the end.

Cunning, no?

Mr Trump's based his entire brand on being the best, dear. Gold toilets, biggest private yacht, fake Renoirs, the lot. He only ran for Prez to add more cache to the brand.

He promised the world: a big beautiful wall - not a fence - that he'd get Mexico to pay for. If there's one thing Mr Trump knows, it's how to build things and get others to pay.

Repeal and replace Obamacare - only Mr Trump could do this because he knows how to work with Republicans, believe me.

Fix the mess in North Korea - created by Obama, of course, because he couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. Mr Trump knows how East Asian communist dictators work. Only he can save America from certain nuclear annihilation.

Create jobs for all Americans. The unemployment figures are rigged. Mr Trump will create jobs just by being in the White House. In fact, his daughter Ivanka just created 17 million jobs (a little more than all US jobs created in the past three years, but you get the idea).

Mr Trump will be too busy making America great again to play golf, you'll see. World leaders will treat the White House with respect again. We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning.

Highest ever ratings in TV history, biggest-selling book, a landslide erection victory, biggest inauguration crowd ever, etc, etc, etc.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Actually, I just spoke with someone on the ground from Disaster Recovery.

The Red Cross give out $5000 to anyone who's NOT insured and has less than $10,000 in the bank. That's the criteria.

NSW Housing provides temporary accommodation for low income earners and the uninsured. Welfare centres are providing demountable houses or caravans to people in the same situation.

She also said the Red Cross' 10% admin cost sounds more than fair to fly down assessors, accomodate them, pay their wages, etc.

These organisations - Red Cross, the Salvos, St Vinnies - also need to coordinate to prevent double-dipping. They need to check claims - with no paperwork such as a deed. Bank accounts, Centrelink, the lot.

It's a big job. I wouldn't be bitching so prematurely. Fires on this scale are a learning experience for the Red Cross and others. We're going to see plenty more of these bushfires in future, so it's important that the charities get their procedures right.

That's not true, Sad. Mr Trump only fakes the tan to get the leftards wetting their knickers.

Same with all his lies, the Ukraine thing, even Stormy Daniels. It's the new paradigm, and Mr Trump is crushing it. It's all part of the Donald's masterful plan.

That's what the leftards don't understand. If they put all their energy into vibing with Mr Trump, they could win too. It takes 5 years to study Mr Trump and learn how to walk the "narrow path to success".

Okay, Trump University was closed down by the leftards, but you can do your own study by agreeing with everything Mr Trump says and repeating over and over how awesome he is.

If the leftards just did that, they might get somewhere, but oh no, they prefer to get triggered by Mr Trump.

After a while, it gets a bit stale, so Mr Trump has to do more and more outrageous things to trigger them even more. You wait until he tells Putin to release the footage - the leftards will be weeing all over themselves, and there Mr Trump will be, magnanimous, immovable, unshaken, the image of his tanned face being weed on by all those underage girls.

Yes, he might pretend it's all fake news, but he'll secretly have a chuckle with Putin about it while he furiously Tweets about how unfair it is.

And those vibing with Mr Trump's strategy for success will agree with what a great man he is.

WITCH HUNT!

When defending your toilet roll fortress, place rolls side on to absorb bullets.  Remember to leave some lengthways as rifle firing-points.

Courageous?

Sad, Mr Trump stood out the front of that church and held up a Bible. Victory, he said. There he was, one man, holding up the Book of God. Facing off all the tinted races, the leftards, even evil itself. Imagine how much courage it takes to do that.

Sure, Mr Trump had the place tear-gassed first, but he chose to show us all his second favourite book, after the Art of the Deal. We should all read it, he says.

Which bit?

All of it.

Any particular chapters?

It's all good.

New or Old Testament?

Look....

FD wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 4:24pm:

Right. It's Hillary we need to get. The woman's a menace. She shouldn't be walking around like that, it's not safe.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:52pm:


Exactly and this is what Trump ALWAYS DOES.

When things get tough, when his lies and bold impossible claims can no longer be supported by his "TRUMP" branding and people expect actual results or something tangible to be delivered, not just promises of it he gives up and declared bankruptcy, or in this case, apparently tries to deliberately lose the election.

It's what people have been warning about all along.

Trump had created so many divisions in the country all to hide his poor performance that during a time of a national, an international crisis when the country need to work together to try and control or even just slow the spread of a global pandemic, the divisions are too deep and Trump himself was still creating them around claims of the virus being a democrat hoax, masks being bad, social distancing and other measures to slow the virus being bad or leaning into the racism that fuels his supporters with "kung flu" etc.

The result of all of this is what we see now, the virus is out of control int he US.

And as you like to continue to point out scoot, the true infection rate is likely 9 to 10 times more than is being caught by the limited testing available.  That means there are potentially around 500,000 new infections daily.

I think at this point, one would be forgiven if they started to call the virus, at least within the US, the "Trump Virus".

So all those people warning that a Trump presidency would result in him bankrupting the country, they were pretty close after all.  Even before the Pandemic, his spending was out of control and things for the average American weren't improving, they were getting worse.  He's lucky in a way that the USA has been so badly hit by the Trump Virus because it covers the tracks of his complete and utter failures.

So for once Scoot, I think we agree.  Trump giving up is just another example of faux Alpha he's always been.

There is no doubt he's good at creating a business and personally profiting from its launch and it's clear this is his passion.  He considers himself a builder.

But when it comes to the nuts and bolts of actually operating and delivering, it's like kryptonite for him.

This is why he's so addicted to his rallies.  It's the "building part" of a Presidential campaign.  His problem is he won the election.

He still wants to build, he still wants to get the cheers and applause for all the things he'll say he'll do.

But he just doesn't have it in him to actually deliver.  He won't get the same applause as being the salesman for his business, his policies if he takes the time to work on them and actually delivers.  And it's made worse by the fact that his claims are so obviously bullshit and unachievable.

Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare will be replaced with something better and everyone will have coverage and pay less?

Make America Great Again?

They're all things that sound great and get huge applause, but they are by design impossible to achieve in a way that those applauding them will be happy with the result and still applauding.

So he just moves on to build the next thing.

Over and over and over again, for decades, this has been Trump.

When the going gets tough, he gives up.

It's that simple.

I applaud you Scoot for finally taking the time to pay attention and see the truth of what Trump is.

There is nothing wrong with people like that, they are often risk-takers, but only because they don't really care about the outcome so long as they profit from the start-up, which he always seems to do.

A spot on analysis:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 1:23pm:

Interesting take that yesterday's press conference was all about sending a signal to Maxwell: Trump has her back.

Mr Trump will happily reverse five months of talking down a pandemic to stage a press conference to say things will get worse, advise the public to wear masks and start taking this thing seriously.

You know, after the rest of the world did that five months ago.

But it wasn't really about taking the pandemic seriously, now was it? That's all a ruse.

I think it's a smart move. We need to study him. 5 years is the minimum.

You're talking to Rich as if he believes what he's saying, Sad. He doesn't. He knows full well it's a con-job, he's only lingering because Greggery pointed out that he was about to flee.

Rich isn't interested in facts, he's playing psychological warfare. His cause is to propagate lies. That's his agenda. He knows it's krap, he's just trying to keep the ball in the air as long as he can before he ducks out to spread new ones.

When has Rich ever proven himself correct on one of his claims? As soon as he omitted the source of his first dumb graph, Rich knew he was telling a Whopper. He then told another one when he said he'd try to find out. He told another when he pretended the critics were being racist.

These are just tactics, Rich knows that. Rich's entire purpose here is to erect a strawman to scare off the crows. All of it - the HCQ, the America's Frontline Doctors, the face mask krap, the attacks on Fauci - they're all a hollow clang intended to drown out the roar of the most mismanaged pandemic in the world, a death toll of over 161,000 Americans, a current rate of 1600 deaths a day from coronavirus.

Rich knows that. He knows that if HCQ worked it would be used. He knows there's no harm caused by surgical masks. He knows he's telling lies. He knows he's playing Trump's online attack dog in the last-ditch hope to keep Trump in power to continue to push Rich's global agenda of white supremacism.

That's why Rich's shrieks of racism are so cute. He's doing it to push racism.

Cunning? No. Embarrassingly transparent. Don't for a minute think Rich is dumb enough to fall for his own lies. He is only dumb enough to think you'll think he does.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 27^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:


So when it's one of our own tribe he's an outcast, a black sheep
But when he's from the other tribe "they are all the same" there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim

ok got it

Sad, I'm sorry, that simply cannot be true. A political party in power doing these sorts of things in a democracy? In America?

Impossible. Mr Trump recently appointed an old friend to modernise the US mail, a great guy. That's a good thing, right? Cutting costs and saving taxpayer dollars can't be bad for America, surely. We all need to tighten our belts.

All those other things you mention preserve American democracy. Look, you don't want to register too many dark coloured people all at once, it wouldn't be fair. There have to be limits.

And, you know, Mr Trump has cited thousands - maybe millions of cases where people are registering their dead aunt or their pets. Can you imagine? They get fake ID for their dogs, for example, and sign on their behalf - easy. They just tell the person who's registering them they can't make it in. No problem, they say, all good.

Some people steal the ballots and send them in themselves - cunning, no? They just go round stealing everyone's mail. They have to find their signatures somehow too - I'm not sure how they do it, but they're most cunning.

Mr Trump would never stoop to these sorts of tricks. He's been saying it for years. The game's rigged, he says. He actually won the popular vote in 2016, but these cheats took it away from him. You can tell how popular he is from his inauguration - the biggest turn out in history, they said, period. Far bigger than Obama.

The American people want him there. Look, if a few corners have to be cut to keep him in, I can't see a problem with that, to be honest. They could start with throwing out a few votes from the black neighbourhoods. As Mr Trump says, they're too stupid to vote for him. There's a case that voters should have a minimum IQ Level to qualify.

Mr Trump's smart. Top marks at school and in college, and he just knows stuff from experience. He's a self-made man. He had to claw his way up pretty much from nothing, and you know what sharks they are in New York. The worst. You have to be on your game.

Mr Trump has to cut a few corners, so what? That's a good thing, no? Look at all the great things he's doing for America.

That’s all lies, Laugh. The people voted for Mr Trump. The FAKE NEWS is just calling it wrong, you’ll see.

It happens all the time. Back in 2016, for example, Mr Trump had the biggest inauguration crowd in history, period. The fake news media made it look tiny.

Look at Mr Trump’s rallies. Thousands of beautiful people as far as the eye can see, so much winning. People love the man. Some even claimed to have been healed. Plenty of people are saying this. It could be the positive energy, it could be God, it could be the spirit of Mr Trump himself, it’s hard to say. No one leaves a Trump rally feeling sick, that’s for sure.

You don’t see anyone at Sleepy Joe’s rallies. If they go, they don’t even get out of their cars. They just sit there in their pyjamas, wallowing in their anger and resentment. Why can’t we be more like Mr Trump? They think.

That’s easy. Stop being a leftard. Stand up for law and order. Fight back the blacks and Antifa. Hate them. This is what made America great, before all the blacks and Muslims and leftards came along, so racist and unfair.

No, you’ll see. When Mr Trump’s finished with this election, he’ll be the winner. So stand up for Mr Trump, hate the leftards and fight for your country. Mr Trump’s doing everything he can in the courts to make sure America gets the best leader since George Washington.

You’ve just uncovered the Rich method, Sad.

You left out the bit at the end where, when the truth is undeniable, poof! He’s gone.

Trump is playing out the leadership of the free world using the exact same method: pepper the board with bullshit, and when the truth comes out, poof! Nowhere to be seen.

You can see why Rich et al love him so. For them, Trump is the manifestation of their reason for being, the ultimate internet troll. Trump has it all - the conspiracies, the victimhood, the bullying. The vain, thin-skinned arrogance and pomposity. Ultimately, he has the bullshit, the most ignorant lies told with such a straight face, with such passion.

This is what they admire the most, the talent Trump has, as Steve Bannon once said, to say any old crap and believe it. Trump often boasts about his lies. Watch this, he’s told journalists, as he’s gotten up to tell a howler. And afterwards, sitting down: not bad, eh?

Trump wasn’t happy when Leslie Stahl pointed this out on 60 Minutes. Trump had indeed once bragged to her about his methods for tarring the press. He got these tricks from his mentor Roy Cohn, McCarthy’s legal sheister, and Trump had given Leslie Stahl the same lecture he was given, back in New York, starting out. Stahl wasn’t meant to remind him of this on air, of course, but she did, and it’s history.

Trump’s methods are exposed most clearly now by his silence. His four years in the White House were only ever a PR pitch for another four years. Leslie Stahl and others all asked what he wanted to do with another four years, and Trump was always struck dumb. Do?

What a strange question. Get back in, that’s all Trump wanted to do. Get the popular vote that eluded him in 2016. Get the broadsheets and the beltway and the insiders to finally admit that Trump was legit. Get them behind Trump, singing his praises like they do for Putin in Russia or Kim in North Korea. Get a little respect for once.

Now, Trump’s left hopelessly trying to claw back a few hundred votes in Mid Western counties, such a nakedly desperate attempt to save face. None of it adds or gives anything to America. Trump’s not doing it to save lives or bring peace or fulfil a plan or vision, he’s just doing what he’s always done and defending the Trump brand.

Trump’s caught, after all the bullshit - five years worth of lies, bullying and stirring up dissent - speechless. The people have spoken. Trump, quite simply, has nothing left to say.

Rich and co know the feeling all too well. Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

I know, right? Aquascoot is already cheering on Sleepy Joe for being a WINNER. There’s Sleepy Joe, Aquascoot says, 78 years old, and he’s just won more votes than any other prez in history - 7 mil more than Mr Trump - the same number of electoral college votes Mr Trump won in 2016, a landslide.

Just think what it takes to do that, Aquascoot says, standing up and striding onto the world stage - after you’ve retired. There’s Sleepy Joe, a childhood stutterer, giving speeches and doing debates with the toughest guys the Manhattan real estate market, reality TV and Fox News can create. Sharp, cunning, bright as a button. He saw his first wife die tragically, brought up three young kids, then saw firstborn son die of cancer.

Sleepy Joe bounced back from the stutter, back from tragedy and depression to beat Mr Trump himself. No, Aquascoot says, we need to revere such a man, elevate him, study him.

5 years is the minimum.

There have already been so many recounts Yada.

How many will it take for you to accept the result?

Or do you just want them to keep doing recounts until you get the result you want?

Trump lost.

Get over it.

It wasn't stolen, there was no conspiracy, he was a bad President who rode the wave of his predecessors and ran the country and the Government like one of his businesses, towards bankruptcy. 

Generations will be paying for his Presidency and there is little to nothing to show for it.

There are 100,000's of people dead because of Trump and his inactions on COVID-19 alone.

You should be celebrating that he's gone.

Carl D wrote on Aug 8^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:


Every post a winner.

Trump lost his base because he's not Anti-vaxx.

They don't trust him anymore.

The monster he created has turned on him.

They're stupid enough, like so many on here, to support him again if he ever ran, but we're not dealing with sane rational people anymore.  COVID, the Jan 6th Terror Attacks and the constant demands the election was rigged has shown these people are so stupid they're a threat to the nation.

They'd rather destroy it than let anyone else be in charge, the new definition of American Patriotism.

"I love my country so much I'd rather destroy it than accept a democratically elected President I don't like".

Perhaps I've been too naive in thinking that the Trump supporters were just caught up in the excitement of the movement, but they, like so many on here, just struggle with lower IQs and don't know any better.

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2022 at 10:26am:


Incorrect. Figures show consistent GDP growth in the US since 1948.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/996758/rea-gdp-growth-united-states-1930-201...

The only times US economic growth has dropped to below 0% since the 60s is 1973 (the oil shocks), 1981 (Latin American loans crisis), 1991 ("credit crunch"), 2008 (GFC) and 2019 (covid).

Trump made no attempts to reduce the size and influence of government. Trump added over 8 trillion dollars to US government debt in less than one term, even before covid 19, wiping out the gains made during the slow GFC recovery. Trump's own budget office called it a "national debt crisis". Trump's presidency was the biggest spending administration in US history.

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

His solution? Increase tariffs. Trump believed his trade wars would bring in revenue, paying off debt "like water". This never happened. The revenue was dished out to farmers and small manufacturers, and ultimately, the money came from American consumers anyway. Trump's trade wars turned into the ever-increasing tax-and-spend cycle that had led to the GATT and all the previous work done on reducing tariffs in the past half century. In one administration, Trump upended global supply chains, disrupted the global financial system and created inflation even before covid. Far from any election rigging, Biden got many of his votes from the farmers and manufacturers hit hardest by Trump's trade wars, particularly in the swing states Trump contested, such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

As dysfunctional and destructive as it was, this was the election Trump wanted to fight: the economy and global trade. This was before covid hit and Trump turned into an even bigger spender, desperately trying to save his political skin. Trump's original strategy was to ignore the pandemic to keep trade talks going with China, who he originally praised for working closely with the US. When Trump couldn't pretend anymore, he reversed to blame the pandemic on China, trying to draw attention away from his own mismanagement of what he called the "Chi-na virus". You know the rest of the story. Bleach injections, heat and light, refusing to be seen in a face mask, catching and spreading covid, spruiking fake cures and the daily, ever-increasing death toll. The Trump presidency became an even bigger joke than anyone could have ever imagined, you couldn't make it up.

Ultimately, there was the election defeat, the silence, the legal attempts, the humiliating attempts to cling to power at all costs. The plots, the threats, the insurrection. It just went on and on. But do you know? I think we should remember Trump at his best, as the instigator of trade wars. This, after all, is how he really wanted to be seen: the great disrupter, the destroyer, preening to the chants of his followers: "smash it up."

Trump was the embodiment of the pathological establishment you describe. He allowed government debt to increase by a third. He undermined decades of tariff reduction and work on free trade, weakening the US and global economy. He stood by as covid hit, showing his arrogance, naked self-interest and inability to lead in a crisis. Far from being into small government, Trump imagined grand projects, infrastructure schemes to rival FDR, a great, big beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and "as you know, I can build things, believe me". This is how I think we should judge Trump: on what he promised. None of it came to fruition, not even close. Today, after the corporate tax cuts, the trade wars and all the covid stimulus costs, the US is left with nothing in the bank. No great new highways, no big beautiful walls, and a mountain of debt.

The US has not been in decline since the 60s, but out of all those recessions from 1973 to 2019, the biggest recession started in 2019. Today, at -3.4%, GDP growth is the lowest it's been since 1946.

https://www.statista.com/chart/24056/annual-real-gdp-growth-in-the-united-states...

Trump came to power in 2016 with a modest 1.6% GDP growth figure, which grew to 2.7% for the first two years of his administration due to Reserve Bank and Obama-era policies, and the result of an improving housing and employment market, eight years after the GFC. What happened next, however, has nothing to do with covid or the Reserve Bank. World Bank figures show a drop in growth of 0.86% from 2018 to 2019, prior to any hit from covid. This was the emerging effect of Trump's trade wars. And after covid, of course, it has been in freefall ever since.

America has not been in decline since the 60s, but it may well be now.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

What is unforgivable about all of this is that he helped COVID spread to create the divide between his voters and Biden voters to create the Red Mirage to claim fraud and cheating by the Dems.