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Reply #105 - May 9th, 2022 at 8:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 5:36pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 2:25pm:
Steampipe wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
Trump didn't lose, America lost.

Inflation is out of control, civil war could break out at any time, Putin is pushing Biden around and the media is focused on trivial issues.

Thats the sad reality right now.

Trump is playing golf, Biden is taking a nap while America is disintergrates.


That's okay, Matty. Mr Trump didn't do anything for the last four months of his administration either. The fake news were lucky to get a picture of him whizzing past his protesters in his motorcade taking him to the golf course, remember? Twenty thousand covid deaths a week, and the only thing Mr Trump did in the White House was Tweet.

RIGGED! Witch hunt! So unfair!

Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe has united the leaders of the world to fight Vlad, the guy Mr Trump calls a genius. To be fair, Vlad is smart enough to not tell Mr Trump exactly what video footage the FSB have of him, but Mr Trump can imagine. This makes Mr Trump say only nice things about the guy who's threatening to nuke everybody. The worse Vlad gets, the more Mr Trump tries to say nice things about him, complaining about how weak American generals and leaders are.

Vlad helped Mr Trump get a job as prez, but the American voters threw him out, so Vlad has to make do with Mr Trump as a kind of lobbyist/saboteur. Vlad would much rather America had a civil war than have any sort of functional leadership, so he's counting on Mr Trump to do his bit to start one. The Jan 6 insurrection was just a teaser. Maybe next time, Mr Trump can get the Proud Boys to stand by over at the Pentagon. Mr Trump can do a proper coup and take over for real, with Vlad calling the shots from the Kremlin.

Let's face it, Mr Trump wasted his four years as prez, but he did everything he could to weaken the institution. Vlad's not too happy with Biden flying around the world rallying NATO and strengthening alliances, but he's got until 2035 as prez. His buddy Xi in China's got even longer. Imagine, Mr Trump used to complain about his lousy two terms and he didn't even get a second.

And look at what Vlad gets away with - presidential palaces with gold toilet brushes and billions of rubles stashed away in offshore banks. Mr Trump couldn't even tell the Ukrainian prez to prosecute his political enemies' kids without everybody complaining about it, so unfair.

You're right, Matty, the quicker America gets rid of democracy and becomes a corrupt, one-party/one-leader totalitarian state, the better. Mr Trump didn't campaign so hard for nothing, no?

Anyone for golf?

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Reply #106 - Jul 23rd, 2022 at 7:40pm
 

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 23rd, 2022 at 7:34pm:
That's not what Mr Trump thinks, Bobby. Remember Bill Barr?

He's the guy you and the Light used to fondly call AG. A tough guy, a real Trump man. Remember him?

One night, just before Jan 6 at 8pm, Bill sat down with Mr Trump and showed him. They spent nearly two hours in the Oval Office, going over every single rumour - ballot dumps, Dominion switching votes, Hugo Chavez, the lot. Bill showed Mr Trump - in detail - how the votes were counted, and where. Every contested state. Mr Trump asked him about a story he'd heard about ballot dumps in a part of Detroit. Bill told him that's how they do it there - they count all the votes in one spot. Oh, and Mr Trump won those votes.

In the end, Mr Trump wasn't happy, but there was nothing he could say. AG Barr, a Trump man to the bone, had the FBI investigate the 2020 election - that wasn't even the DOJ's job, but he'd done it for the boss. Mr Trump sent Bill home. Bill quit the next day.

On Jan 6, Mr Trump gave his rally speech. Bill watched. He heard Mr Trump repeating stories Bill had thoroughly debunked, including Detroit. Was Bill surprised?

No. He knew how Mr Trump worked. As you know, Mr Trump told over 20,000 lies while he was in office, it's just how he ran. Read the Art of the Deal if you don't believe me, but it was no shock to Bill Barr. What Bill knew, however, is that Mr Trump knew one thing without a doubt: the election had not been stolen from him. Mr Trump had lost, and he knew it.

But do you know? AG didn't need to tell Mr Trump anything Mr Trump's own family and some staff and friends like Hannity hadn't been telling him for weeks: give up. Be a man. Admit you've lost and move on. Bill didn't tell Mr Trump that, but everybody close to him did. The exceptions?

Rudy. Sidney. Roger Stone, John Eastman, and the pillow magnate, Mike Liddell, who advised Mr Trump to launch a military coup. They hung around the White House, getting on everybody's nerves.

Also, every one of them asked Mr Trump for a pardon - just in case. Mr Trump even asked the lawyers if he could pardon himself, over his Ukraine call and other crimes. He was told that was untested, but in all likelihood, no. That one probably wouldn't wash. Mr Trump never did end up pardoning Rudy and all the hangers-on.

He never paid them either.

So no, Bobby, Mr Trump had nothing stolen from him, but more importantly, he knew it. If he ever faces a court for the above crimes, and he feigns ignorance or insanity or bad advice or just bad luck, that won't wash either. Mr Trump, prez, knows better than anybody, and it hurts like hell. Look at the dumb look on his face in your meme. He lost.

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Reply #107 - Jul 23rd, 2022 at 10:02pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 23rd, 2022 at 7:34pm:
That's not what Mr Trump thinks, Bobby. Remember Bill Barr?

He's the guy you and the Light used to fondly call AG. A tough guy, a real Trump man. Remember him?

One night, just before Jan 6 at 8pm, Bill sat down with Mr Trump and showed him. They spent nearly two hours in the Oval Office, going over every single rumour - ballot dumps, Dominion switching votes, Hugo Chavez, the lot. Bill showed Mr Trump - in detail - how the votes were counted, and where. Every contested state. Mr Trump asked him about a story he'd heard about ballot dumps in a part of Detroit. Bill told him that's how they do it there - they count all the votes in one spot. Oh, and Mr Trump won those votes.

In the end, Mr Trump wasn't happy, but there was nothing he could say. AG Barr, a Trump man to the bone, had the FBI investigate the 2020 election - that wasn't even the DOJ's job, but he'd done it for the boss. Mr Trump sent Bill home. Bill quit the next day.

On Jan 6, Mr Trump gave his rally speech. Bill watched. He heard Mr Trump repeating stories Bill had thoroughly debunked, including Detroit. Was Bill surprised?

No. He knew how Mr Trump worked. As you know, Mr Trump told over 20,000 lies while he was in office, it's just how he ran. Read the Art of the Deal if you don't believe me, but it was no shock to Bill Barr. What Bill knew, however, is that Mr Trump knew one thing without a doubt: the election had not been stolen from him. Mr Trump had lost, and he knew it.

But do you know? AG didn't need to tell Mr Trump anything Mr Trump's own family and some staff and friends like Hannity hadn't been telling him for weeks: give up. Be a man. Admit you've lost and move on. Bill didn't tell Mr Trump that, but everybody close to him did. The exceptions?

Rudy. Sidney. Roger Stone, John Eastman, and the pillow magnate, Mike Liddell, who advised Mr Trump to launch a military coup. They hung around the White House, getting on everybody's nerves.

Also, every one of them asked Mr Trump for a pardon - just in case. Mr Trump even asked the lawyers if he could pardon himself, over his Ukraine call and other crimes. He was told that was untested, but in all likelihood, no. That one probably wouldn't wash. Mr Trump never did end up pardoning Rudy and all the hangers-on.

He never paid them either.

So no, Bobby, Mr Trump had nothing stolen from him, but more importantly, he knew it. If he ever faces a court for the above crimes, and he feigns ignorance or insanity or bad advice or just bad luck, that won't wash either. Mr Trump, prez, knows better than anybody, and it hurts like hell. Look at the dumb look on his face in your meme. He lost.

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I refute you thus - Joe Biden.


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Reply #108 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 1:57pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 1:16pm:
Ron wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 11:06am:
Good on Pauline for telling Senator Mehreen Faruqi to "piss off back to Pakistan". We need more politicians with the guts to take these ungrateful immigrants to task. Another leftie that doesn't understand the meaning of the word" racism".
If she wants to go on about human rights and racism she only has to look at her place of birth and the persecution of Christians by the Mussies.


Thank you for this well considered, thoughtful comment Ron, in
support of the execrable Pauline Hanson whom you seem to see
as a vision of reason and rationale.

The twice divorced Hanson was a high school dropout, after getting
pregnant at age 15—which marked the end of any further education.
As a result, she has a very limited intellectual mindset, and a poor
grasp of politics, race relations, civil law, sexual and gender issues etc.

Recall, her main claim to fame(?) was running a fish and chip shop,
after working as a clerical assistant and barmaid.  Obviously then
she's not the sharpest tool in the toolbox LOL.

On the other hand we have Mehreen Faruqi... who holds a Bachelor
of Engineering, a Master of Engineering Science, and a Doctorate in
Environmental Engineering.

So I think we can see who's better educated and therefore far better
qualified in order to work in parliament.

Hanson's crude, racist insults directed at Faruqi further demonstrated
her lack of formal education and her inability to move on from the 1950s
days of black and white TV, 'reds under the beds' and 'the yellow peril'.


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Reply #109 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:46pm
 

Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:43pm:
Come come, Phil. Not only does Matty want his Dear Leader forgiven for all charges, he wants him back in the White House with total immunity. Matty loved the Jan 6 riots. Matty's favourite idea of Mr Trump's was terminating the constitution, and not just to let his Dear Leader and his followers off. Matty wants a full blown dictatorship, just like they have in Russia.

You'd be surprised, quite a few posters here do. They think democracy's a leftard conspiracy. They hate justice, unless it's retribution. They despise free trade, because they think it costs them jobs, even though they're on the pension. They want a closed shop world of borders and endless wars, but more than anything, bullshit. They'll avoid facts at all cost and coat everything in krap.

You can't convince them. Matty's given up talking altogether, preferring to use his safe word, Trump. This is an attempt to make you stop torturing him with reason.

Matty's making a gag about triggering you, you see. After six years of promoting his Dear Leader, Matty would prefer you stopped discussing him altogether.

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Reply #110 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 2:16pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 1:51pm:
Alas, Meister, Sleepy Joe's got an uphill battle with the transition to a renewable economy. Americans were traditionally able to respond to these kinds of shifts. Industrialisation, the end of slavery, immigration, two world wars, the transition to a consumer industrial economy, the transition to a post-industrial service economy. Political leaders such as Lincoln, Eisenhower and Clinton have been instrumental in these transitions.

Today, America is in the grip of a nihilistic political death cult. This doesn't drive all of America, but it's seriously dented the sides. The GOP is now largely incapable of acting constructively and getting things done.

The McCains of the party, those on the legislative committees and tasked with getting things done, have gone. The new GOP, now in the grip of the Marjorie Taylor Greenes, is just out to destroy.

This week, we saw Fox News conceed and make amends for knowingly broadcasting lies. These were serious lies too - they aimed to undermine the democratic process. They convinced close to a quarter of American voters that the 2020 election had been stolen and the current leadership is illegitimate.

Fox is industrial-scale political propaganda. It's the largest, highest-rating news network in a country of 332 million people. It makes over $14 billion a year. It is integrated into an international print media arm that drives the global news cycle. And now, Fox acknowledges what we always knew.

It is an empire based on lies.

That's what Sleepy Joe's up against, Great. No past president has had to contend with such a destructive force. Trump, sure - but he was on the receiving end. Fox lied for Trump. In so doing, it undermined the entire political system.

Obama had to deal with it too - hence his own inability to enact his reforms, hence his watered-down legislative attempts. In the end, Obama wasn't even able to appoint a supreme court judge - forget appoint, the GOP wouldn't even accept a nomination.

Obama's Republican opposition was massaged, nurtured and amplified by Fox. There on Fox, every Friday morning, was Donald J Trump, prattling away about his Kenyan investigators uncovering shocking new details of Obama's African origins. And there was the ernest panel of seasoned broadcasters and journalists, nodding along, agreeing.

In the end, Fox was not able to secure a second election win for Trump. Not after a pandemic scale litany of leadership failure, not after the death toll, the job losses, the lies laid bare and the acknowledgement that, sure, he'd lied about covid and would do it again.

Instead, Fox joined Trump in propagating the big lie - that Trump had actually won and had the election rigged against him. Fox sacked the broadcaster who called Arizona. It enabled Carlson, Hannity and Pirro to spruik the big lie nightly, hours of prime time commentary devoted to vote dumps, rigged online voting machines, foreign interference and an ongoing barrage of fake news devoted to undermining the democratic process.

Dominion recieved $786 million in compensation for those lies. The damage to the process is incalculable.

America is the country that won its revolution, two world wars and, for better or worse, transformed the world in its image. It met great depressions and recessions and turned them around too. But today, I'm not so sure it can rise to meet those challenges. America has been subjected to a hostile foreign takeover that has undermined its very existence.

It would be nice to think that presidents like Joe Biden just need to go back to negotiating with legislators in good faith, but America is beyond that now. The big lie exposes just how far some are prepared to go to destroy the political process. How do you go back to work after that? How do you sit down and try to deal with people that you know have lied, and they know you know?

It's impossible. Without a re-commitment to honesty, America is doomed. While Fox continues to broadcast, the political process will be sabotaged, time and time again.

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Reply #111 - May 6th, 2023 at 3:29pm
 

Mattyfisk wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 2:45pm:
All of your messages here have been proven to be lies, Bobby.

Not mistakes, dear, lies. 

Lies aren't useful in a political debate. They add no value to political discourse. All they do is create a self-indulgent semantic loop, where we have to keep sifting through lies and justifying reality.

No, dear, Hillary did not run a child sex ring in a Chicago pizza shop. No, Michelle Obama is not a tranny, not that there's anything wrong with that. No, Sleepy Joe Biden is not taking a 10% cut of his son's business deals. Joe makes more than his son and publishes his income details on his website. No, Dear Leader is not interested in exposing corruption or draining swamps. He refused to disclose his own income details, and when finally forced to do so, he ended up in court for corporate fraud, tax evasion and cheating lendors, the judge declaring his business a criminal enterprise.

These are facts. The Divine Plan is truth. Truth is facts; facts are truth. All is in accordance with this principle.

Aquascoot likes lies because they're the only way he can justify abandoning his moral code. Aquascoot used to be a "noble righty" who aspired to family values, free trade, self reliance and  rational pragmatism. He gave this up for a white nationalist leadership cult held together by lies. He knows it's lies, and so do you.

So I'm curious. Are you, like Aquascoot, happy to accept lies as the basis of your political conviction?

Or do you have to lie to yourself to pretend that they're true?

That's my question. I'm most curious, and I'd sincerely welcome a reply.

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Reply #112 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:09pm
 

Linus wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 4:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 4:15pm:
Disgusting crimes and, if found guilty of them, he should be punished to the full extent of the law.

Those crimes are some of the worst imaginable, however, there is no place in any civilised society for the premeditated state-sanctioned killing of restrained prisoners.


Of course there is. There is nothing 'uncivilised' about the death penalty.

There are problems in framing laws around it, setting up fail-safe mechanism to avoid meting it out to anyone not deserving it. But to say that the death penalty is always undeserved, always uncivilised is asserting something without any proper foundation or logic.




Where's your "proper foundation or logic for your claim:"There is nothing 'uncivilised' about the death penalty" or that it is not always undeserved, Frank ?

No law or set of laws are going to provide a "fail-safe mechanism". The risk of wrongful execution is too high a price to allow the death penalty. A wrongful execution is irreversible.

It's a moral double standard and contradiction to condone the killing of a person by the state if you accept killing is immoral.

It undermines the state's authority in enforcing moral standards if it engages in the very act it condemns.

If you value and respect human life, then there is no place for
the death penalty.

There are strong concerns about racial and socioeconomic disparities in the application of the death penalty, which raises questions about its fairness and impartiality.

There are alternatives to the death penalty. In the most heinous cases life imprisonment would suffice.

There is a lack of evidence to support a link between the death penalty and lower crime rates.

The death penalty can also have an adverse psychological impact on those involved in its implementation: prison staff and witnesses, not to mention the impact on the family and friends of the person executed.

If morality, the value of human life, fairness and impartiality, and the mitigation of human suffering are characteristics of being civilised, then the death penalty has no place in a civilised society.

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Reply #113 - Jan 9th, 2024 at 1:55pm
 
... now then - let's see where my Post of the Day is......  hmmmmmm ....

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Reply #114 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 10:43am
 
Well - the Norwegian mass murderer is crying in court about his 'cruel and unusual punishment' ... poor bastard ..... they couldn't turn him loose into the general population.... they'd be lining up to stab him .... and all the guards were busy elsewhere and damn - the cameras were down....
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