Oh look, a white Muslim sprouting anti-European racist propaganda, apparently unwittingly, and turning world history on it's head in order to do so. Gandalf I hope you aren't teaching any of this nonsense to impressionable children. We have enough trouble with Muslims driving on the footpath as it is.
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 12
th, 2017 at 6:28am:
Arabs are responsible for diseases spread by Arabs, just like Europeans are responsible for diseases spread by Europeans.
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2017 at 11:03am:
It is simply self-evident that European colonialism was the most disruptive, violent and devastating period for the most number of people, in the smallest period of time, in all of history.
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 27
th, 2017 at 9:47am:
freediver wrote on Oct 26
th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Were the Europeans responsible for disease, famine and falling birth rate?
European diseases like small pox? - obviously. Particularly when they were spread deliberately.
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 25
th, 2017 at 8:45am:
- would you care to hazard a guess as to how many millions of native Indians were slaughtered by European imperialists In South, Central and North America combined? I think we can safely assume it runs into the millions.
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 27
th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 27
th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
Are you also holding Europeans accountable for the cases that were not deliberate?
Yes. The diseases didn't spread because of some benign, innocent non-disruptive contact with the natives. They spread because the imperialistic Europeans barged in uninvited to rape and pillage and make slaves. But please, feel free to demonstrate your ability in spin and give us a jolly yarn about how imperialists who invade in order to rape and pillage - are somehow not responsible for the decimating effects of the small pox and common cold viruses they bring along with them.
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 27
th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
By the way, you haven't answered my question - can you think of any other period in history where the actions of one power or civilization was responsible - indirectly and directly for so many deaths? You do agree that it runs into the millions right?
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 29
th, 2017 at 6:45am:
Can you think of any other period in history where so many were killed as a result of the actions of one civilization/power?
Do you agree that native American populations wouldn't have been decimated by European diseases if the Europeans hadn't invaded them to rape and pillage their lands? A simple yes or no will suffice.
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31
st, 2017 at 6:40am:
If the second claim is about European colonial deaths being greater than at any time - there is no source, I stated this from the beginning. As I have said twice already, it is a statement of the bleeding obvious.
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 2
nd, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Speaking of evasive, can you think of another period in history where so many people were killed by one civilization invading and raping and pillaging so many places?
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2017 at 10:34am:
Do you at least concede that diseases that struck non-Europeans as a result of the Europeans invading, raping and pillaging their lands - are deaths as a result of European imperialism?
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2017 at 11:03am:
8 million estimated native Indians in South America. 2-13 million in Congo. Thats just for starters. How many North American Indians were wiped out? Arguably the greatest genocide in all of history, complete with small pox blankets. Africa - probably the most ravaged continent by Europeans of all - the devastating effects of which are only to evident to this very day. Oh but FD will say the diseases the Europeans spread while raping and pillaging were not deliberately spread, so its all good. No moral responsibility. He'll probably also try on the "wheres the source Gandalf" ruse for these figures, and once again "forget" that he's read and even quoted the wikipedia quotes that I posted. He'll then continue on with the "oh there's no exact total, sorry can't discuss it" copout. Apparently oblivious to the fact that undeniably entire continents were violently overtaken, and entire populations ethnically cleansed, and often annihilated - unlike in any other time in history. It is simply self-evident that European colonialism was the most disruptive, violent and devastating period for the most number of people, in the smallest period of time, in all of history.
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2017 at 5:12pm:
British deliberate use of smallpox for biological warfare
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 13
th, 2017 at 10:15am:
I'm blaming Europeans for the deaths that were caused directly or indirectly by European colonialism.
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