freediver wrote on Aug 17
th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 17
th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 17
th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Why the extraordinary efforts to boil everything down to simplistic hysteria about racism?
Gosh FD, hysteria about racism? Some might think that screeching months and years on end about how "racist" it is to suggest that the mass execution of members of a 7th century tribe for breaking a treaty might be deemed justified by the standards and culture of the time - is a pretty good example of "simplistic hysteria about racism".
But what this is about is your stubborn refusal to acknowledge what is evident to blind Freddy: that mealy mouthed racists, who absolutely *ARE* terrified of being seen as racist, have latched on to the anti-Islam bandwagon to feed their racism, with their favourite rejoinder "Islam is not a race" merely being the latest incantation of the old "I'm not racist but..." excuse.
And the fact that you are the most hysterical whiner about racism - sorry wacism - here, when it concerns muslims and/or their apologists attacking jews, is just an interesting aside.
I asked you to point these people out Gandalf. So far they are a figment of your imagination.
And I called you out on your racism because you are a textbook case of mealy mouthed racism, and you are right here on this forum. You described them over a span of years variously as a mindless collective a treacherous warrior Jews, all in efforts to justify Muhammad's genocide. But when your own words are presented to you you reject them because (again, in your own words) it 'sounds' racist. You absolutely *ARE* terrified of being seen as racist, but when all else failed, you fell back on racism because your religion compels you to come up with any excuse you can find to justify mass murder.
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 18
th, 2017 at 10:15am:
freediver wrote on Aug 17
th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
I asked you to point these people out Gandalf. So far they are a figment of your imagination.
Sure, FD - one good example is constantly broad-stroking the entire muslim population as a monolithic hive mind of sinister conspirators out to deceive everyone
Islam is not a race Gandalf. And you are the only one here who invokes a hive mind of sinister conspirators to justify genocide.
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 18
th, 2017 at 10:15am:
freediver wrote on Aug 17
th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
You described them over a span of years variously as a mindless collective a treacherous warrior Jews,
Like a "typical muslim" I guess.
Not sure. Did you ever say where you got the racist theories from? I seem to recall being taken by surprise when you said that. I think that is what prompted Karnal to describe it as an 'Abu moment'.
Quote:And as usual this is rubbish. 1. I described the arab tribes of the 7th century - of which the banu qurayza were but one as a "mindless collective" - in the sense that there was no real concept of the individual in society - everyone was subordinated to the tribe.
So you did in fact describe them as a mindless collective, and use that to justify Muhammad's genocide?
Were the early Muslims also a mindless collective?
Quote:This point I made abundantly clear in the original quote that you will always conveniently edit out when you requote it.
What exactly is this point you think I am editing out? That your racist propaganda about mindless collectives is not in fact racist because it is true? That it is in fact correct to call them a mindless collective and justify their genocide because they had no individual personality? That it's not racist if you also ascribe collective traits to other groups? What makes you think that repeating it and insisting it is true makes your racism any less abhorrent?
Quote:as I have told you a hundred times at least - "treacherous jew" was your term, not mine
Are you denying referring to them as treacherous?
Quote:And I even made the point that the term would be racist and I would never say it.
So racism is not about what you say, but how you say it? That is, you can argue they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews, but so long as you don't use the words together in a way that sounds familiarly racist, you are not actually being racist?
Are you saying that mealy mouthed racists, who absolutely *ARE* terrified of being seen as racist, who have latched on to the anti-Jew bandwagon to feed their religion, with their favourite rejoinder "they had no individuality or personality because they literally were a mindless collective of traitors, tough titties, off with their heads" are somehow not merely the latest incantation of the old "I'm not racist but..." excuse, so long as they really, truly believe their own absurd racist propaganda?
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