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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11064 Australia Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #45 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:00am: Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm: How can you compare the mind of an animal to the mind of a human...??? How can you speak to the mind of an animal at all? Well they do have something between the ears, though I doubt they would have self consciousness.
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Reply #46 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am

Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:02am:

Setanta wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:52pm:

I struggle to see how he would do that but i've had plenty of dogs hump me.

Now how about answering the question?

Is that literally speaking....???

It's certainly a form of abuse, some of the cruellest things happen in labs as I'm sure you're aware.

Before my dog was disexed, twice a month i would walk around swatting his nose out from between my legs.

And yes, i have had plenty of dogs literally hump my leg. Haven't you?

So you think masturbating an animal constitutes rape?

Did it consent? Would masturbating a woman without her consent be rape?

Yes to the woman.

And for the record, i am opposed to the masturbating of animals.

But you said masturbating animals is not so bad and not rape. Why not apply that to you and us? We are mammals like most of the animals we use.

Please point out where i said it wasn't rape Ajax.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17238 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #47 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am Mothra, you not saying rape is a state of mind?
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Reply #48 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:00am:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

How can you compare the mind of an animal to the mind of a human...???

How can you speak to the mind of an animal at all?

Well they do have something between the ears, though I doubt they would have self consciousness.

Of course they do!

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #49 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:06am Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am: Mothra, you not saying rape is a state of mind? Not even a little bit. Where the hell did you get that from?
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Reply #50 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:07am

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am:

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:00am:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

How can you compare the mind of an animal to the mind of a human...???

How can you speak to the mind of an animal at all?

Well they do have something between the ears, though I doubt they would have self consciousness.

Of course they do!

You mean to tell me when your dog sees itself in the mirror it knows that its himself or herself.......??

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Reply #51 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:07am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am:

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:00am:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

How can you compare the mind of an animal to the mind of a human...???

How can you speak to the mind of an animal at all?

Well they do have something between the ears, though I doubt they would have self consciousness.

Of course they do!

You mean to tell me when your dog sees itself in the mirror it knows that its himself or herself.......??

Looking at oneself in the mirror is not the oly test of self awareness.

Anyway, dolphins and apes recognise themselves in mirrors.

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Reply #52 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am:

Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:02am:

Setanta wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:52pm:

I struggle to see how he would do that but i've had plenty of dogs hump me.

Now how about answering the question?

Is that literally speaking....???

It's certainly a form of abuse, some of the cruellest things happen in labs as I'm sure you're aware.

Before my dog was disexed, twice a month i would walk around swatting his nose out from between my legs.

And yes, i have had plenty of dogs literally hump my leg. Haven't you?

So you think masturbating an animal constitutes rape?

Did it consent? Would masturbating a woman without her consent be rape?

Yes to the woman.

And for the record, i am opposed to the masturbating of animals.

But you said masturbating animals is not so bad and not rape. Why not apply that to you and us? We are mammals like most of the animals we use.

Please point out where i said it wasn't rape Ajax.

That'd be Setanta. You said it wasn't the same jerking an animal for it's fertility juices.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464414695/28#28

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17238 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #53 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:10am mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:06am: Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am: Mothra, you not saying rape is a state of mind? Not even a little bit. Where the hell did you get that from? If they know no better it's OK. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464414695/28#28
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Reply #54 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:11am

Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:05am:

Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:04am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:02am:

Setanta wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:57pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

mothra wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 11:52pm:

I struggle to see how he would do that but i've had plenty of dogs hump me.

Now how about answering the question?

Is that literally speaking....???

It's certainly a form of abuse, some of the cruellest things happen in labs as I'm sure you're aware.

Before my dog was disexed, twice a month i would walk around swatting his nose out from between my legs.

And yes, i have had plenty of dogs literally hump my leg. Haven't you?

So you think masturbating an animal constitutes rape?

Did it consent? Would masturbating a woman without her consent be rape?

Yes to the woman.

And for the record, i am opposed to the masturbating of animals.

But you said masturbating animals is not so bad and not rape. Why not apply that to you and us? We are mammals like most of the animals we use.

Please point out where i said it wasn't rape Ajax.

That'd be Setanta. You said it wasn't the same jerking an animal for it's fertility juices.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464414695/28#28

No i didn't. I asked the question as to whether or not Ajax thought it was bestiality and rape.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11064 Australia Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #55 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:12am mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am: Looking at oneself in the mirror is not the oly test of self awareness. It is to someone or something with 2 cents between the ears. Quote: Anyway, dolphins and apes recognise themselves in mirrors. Maybe but their intelligence is no better than a toddler.
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Reply #56 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:13am

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:12am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am:

Looking at oneself in the mirror is not the oly test of self awareness.

It is to someone or something with 2 cents between the ears.

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Anyway, dolphins and apes recognise themselves in mirrors.

Maybe but their intelligence is no better than a toddler.

Define intelligence? They certainly do a great deal better in their environments than we do.

Why should we expect them to do as well in our environment as we do?

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Reply #57 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:14am

Ajax wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:12am:

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:09am:

Looking at oneself in the mirror is not the oly test of self awareness.

It is to someone or something with 2 cents between the ears.

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Anyway, dolphins and apes recognise themselves in mirrors.

Maybe but their intelligence is no better than a toddler.

So it's ok to have sex with toddlers?

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Reply #58 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:16am

mothra wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:11am:

No i didn't. I asked the question as to whether or not Ajax thought it was bestiality and rape.

In the name of science its classified as an experiment, but really you are raping the poor creature in the end.

What about the treatment of hysteria for women by doctors in days gone by.

There was no penetration but could that be considered rape to you....??

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11064 Australia Gender:	Re: Is this the Q in LGBTQ? Reply #59 - May 29^th, 2016 at 12:17am Setanta wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 12:14am: So it's ok to have sex with toddlers? "Twisted" how you got that one.
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