Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
falah wrote on Mar 16
th, 2012 at 10:35pm:
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Gippo literacy:
total population: 71.4%
male: 83%
female: 59.4%
Forty-four percent of Egyptians live on less than $2 a day.
That is what decades of secularism has done for them.
Yeah and?
...and did I mention Western-backed dictators.
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
The west has been secular for even longer and look at the difference: it is rich, smart, comfortable.
Oh really?
USA Rich, Smart, Comfortable?
Greece?
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
You can pursue your religion -
Hey Sorehead, ever heard of Maimonides? One of the greatest scholars of Judaism. What type of government do you think he lived under? Christian? Secular? The fact is he lived his entire life under islamic law.
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
or become a poet,
Funny you should mention that, because I have found that Arabs love poetry, and poetry is a very important part of their culture.
Quote:Arabic literature (Arabic: الأدب العربي, al-Adab al-‘Arabī) is the writing produced, both prose and poetry, by writers in the Arabic language. The Arabic word used for literature is adab which is derived from a meaning of etiquette, and implies politeness, culture and enrichment.
Arabic literature emerged in the 5th century with only fragments of the written language appearing before then. The Qur'an, widely regarded as the finest piece of literature work in the Arabic language, would have the greatest lasting effect on Arabic culture and its literature. Arabic literature flourished during the Islamic Golden Age, but has remained vibrant to the present day, with poets and prose-writers across the Arab world achieving increasing success.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_literature
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
musician,
Did you know that the ancestor of the guitar and violin came to Europe through Muslims. The words "lute" is derived from Arabic al‘ud (العود; literally "the wood")
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
scientist
Sorehead, we have already discussed the fact that whilst faith in Islamic religion was strong, there were many scientists in the Arab, Persian and Turkish world. Meanwhile Christian priests forbid people from learning to read.
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
industrialist
Quote:not sure what this means? You think only secularists can become industrialists? Did you know that Muslims invented the concept of a bank cheque?
Muslim traders used bank cheques in the Abbassid Caliphate more than 1000 years ago.
Islamic Golden Agehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age[quote author=2C302D3A316D5F0 link=1330935607/105#105 date=1331935617]Books are translated
Translators are not rewarded as handsomely as they were under the Islamic Caliphate, where translators were paid a books weight in gold as reward for their work.
Soren wrote on Mar 17
th, 2012 at 8:06am:
conversations unfold and political differences are resolved peacefully and cooperatively.
Conversations Unfolding In Germany:
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2008_The_Baader_Meinhof_Complex/2008_baader_mein... USA
Quote:The Kent State shootings—also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre[2][3][4]—occurred at Kent State University in the U.S. city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.
Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the American invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_massacre
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