Illegal fishing is a no!no!

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:22pm:


Your somewhat lacking in perspective. Predation in the marine ecosystem is extremely high. Fishermen are just another snout in the trough. For instance the seal colony on Montague Island eats more fish than the entire recreational catch for the area!

freediver wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 5:03pm:



I see your as obtuse as usual FD. What about this phrase (in the context of half a dozen dead fish):

"...what a pathetic waste of the natural world and (dare I say) 'resources'."

freediver wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 5:32pm:


Is it a "pathetic" waste?

PS: what about the crabs and beachworms?

freediver wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 6:55pm:


But you don't see it is a waste "if it ends up as part of the natural food chain"? How do can you justify such a distinction between the beach ecosystem and nearby waters.

PS: what evidence do you have that the fisheries of that area are 'depleted'.

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Yeah, right behind the gills. I'm still trying to get the photo of me holding the Kingie and a pretty good anchor (should I take action against the local council for 'permitting' littering?).
I guess the Spearo thought it was 'just' to size, but when it was measured, it was undersized and just tossed back. The fish were all 'untouched' but I'm pretty sure that come night, the dead fish would be scavenged or something.

I understand the essence of the food chain, but this circumstance wasn't even killing fish for an educational facet like Orca do with Skates, Rays and Seals for their young.

I think there are many 'Special' areas of the Marine system that should be Zoned and enforced. I don't think Fishing should be banned, but the methods really do need to be designed to be more selective in regards to both Species, Size (because pulverising just BIG MALES can have a bad side-effect) and Numbers. Spearfishing is already making more 'Conservational' efforts in protecting 'their' Hunting Grounds (so to speak) for the future.

I personally wouldn't mind having the 'Five Islands' off Wollongong/Port Kembla made into a NO TAKE ZONE. Reckon it would yeild more fish after 5 years of recouperation for Fisherman to reap 'Spill-over' ...and I don't mean telling authorities that "The fish dragged me into the Zone."

Australia has traditionally enjoyed the luxury of 'quality' over 'quantity' due to our minimalistic population. But now things are changing, there is more immigration, more 'self-sustaining' popuation growth and the ravages of 'quantity' is making all forms of 'quality' slowly dissapear.

Should Australia 'also' give in to this effect from larger populations and over-populations ...or should we put our foot down and "sorry, but 40 years ago you could Recreationally fish willy-nilly without a care for consequence. But now..."
I don't even think 'Traditional Rights' are a valid excuse ...just about every other culture has had to adapt and adhere to the Rules and Regulations of the Modern day ...so why should a minority of cultures have 'free-range' upon species (especially using non-traditional methods and living in non-traditional ways. ).

What use is it to wipe out our species and eco-systems for $$$ from other countries, when in the future that $$$ could fluctuate and become worthless.

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You mean alive, or dead? If you mean dead, I would not consider it significantly less wasteful if the fish ended up on the bottom being picked off by wobbygongs. it is not the beach itself I was referring to, but the impact on the ecosystem.

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They seemed too silly to bother answering.

Yes I can.