Two posts and the thread is somehow about you? You wish people cared about you that much, Mrs. Fruiterer.

What's the matter, Lisa, having a cry because you can't delete posts or derail the thread without moderating power?

How does it feel?

Coupladays!

Actually, no one's mentioned wife beating in the Mafia yet.

skippy. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2010 at 7:48am:


Muslims condone the bashing of women?

Really?

Here I was thinking that people within Islam were using their faith to justify acts of violence. I certainly didn't think for one moment that interpretations of an ancient text were representative of some 1 billion people. I mean, there are Christian texts that allude to such behaviour, but we don't say that Christians condone the bashing of women - because it would be reasonable to suggest that the majority don't.

Here I was thinking that people within Islam were using their faith to justify acts of violence .. Jay

Are you saying Abu ie the Moderator of this board .. is using his Muslim faith to justify violence and given the particular context of this discussion (and topic title) .. the bashing of women ?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2010 at 4:57pm:


I'm not saying Abu in particular, though I do take issue with the notion that a husband has any right whatsoever to 'discipline' his wife (not least of all physically).

I understand that he's drawn a line between causing serious physical damage or assault and a 'smack' similar to that you might give your child. However, a grown woman is not a child. The reasoning that suggests smacking a child - albeit lightly - might make them aware that their behaviour is unacceptable, does not hold when you're talking about a fully grown, primarily independent woman.

Ultimately, it's a weak line to draw.

My post about people using Islam to justify acts of violence generally extends to more extreme cases.

Though the principle remains.

I'm not saying Abu in particular, though I do take issue with the notion that a husband has any right whatsoever to 'discipline' his wife (not least of all physically).

- Jay

So .. not JUST Abu eh? And you do concede there are issues even where he is concerned.


I understand that he's drawn a line between causing serious physical damage or assault and a 'smack' similar to that you might give your child. However, a grown woman is not a child. The reasoning that suggests smacking a child - albeit lightly - might make them aware that their behaviour is unacceptable, does not hold when you're talking about a fully grown, primarily independent woman.

- Jay

Oohh ... seems you're in for a little shock then ..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1287049789

Happy reading!

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2010 at 10:50pm:


He wasn't a 'vague Friar Tuck', and his writings were held in high regard.

And I DID write 'religious texts'. However, even if we were talking about the Bible, the principle remains i.e. there are things that are written that are today not practiced.