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Question: SHould wife-smacking be allowed

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Reply #315 - May 21st, 2017 at 11:35pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:32pm:
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:15pm:
The take home message here is spin. No drunk Aussie bogan would ever dream of putting a positive spin on trying to beat some sense into his silly wife. But Muhammad did. That's what makes him special.


Not just Mo, Gandalf as well. 


But of course. Not only does G want to rape our women, he wants to execute our hommers, can you believe it?

How despicable. We decide who rapes our women and kills our hommers, thank you very much.
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Reply #316 - May 22nd, 2017 at 9:36am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 11:35pm:
Secret Wars wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:32pm:
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:15pm:
The take home message here is spin. No drunk Aussie bogan would ever dream of putting a positive spin on trying to beat some sense into his silly wife. But Muhammad did. That's what makes him special.


Not just Mo, Gandalf as well. 


But of course. Not only does G want to rape our women, he wants to execute our hommers, can you believe it?

How despicable. We decide who rapes our women and kills our hommers, thank you very much.


And beat up your women too K - don't forget that.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #317 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:15am
 
Secret Wars wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:29pm:
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 6:48pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 6:38pm:
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 2:00pm:
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Here's a counter-proposition: Australians are bogans. Do you agree?

Muslims are bogans too...  so what is your point?


No, they aren't. They don't drink.


Gandalf likes to point out that Islamic wife beating is better than western wife beating because they are sober and respectful when they do it.


Absolute crap FD.

Quote me or retract this.


polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2013 at 1:52pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 30th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
Here you go Gandalf:

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission.  Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Does that sound like the leader of mankind to you? Or some bogan wife beater control freak?


The word is 'lahada' which means "push" not "strike". Puts a slightly different spin on it wouldn't you say?

The thing is FD, if it was some bogan wife beater control freak being described, I would expect to see narrations like:

he stormed into the room, breath reeking with alcohol, grabbed me by the hair and smacked me around the face, then concluded with a haymaker to the gut. I then got on my knees and thanked God that he treated me so well that night.

And then I would expect to see the same sort of account repeated over and over and over again - so as to suggest a pattern of behaviour. A single incident in which his wife was "pushed" by a husband who was in a state of panic over her wellbeing and safety, does not even remotely reflect such a pattern of behaviour.

Funny how this same apparently abused woman stated on another occasion:

"Allaah's Messenger (Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wa Sallam) never hit anything with his hand ever, except when fighting in the path of Allaah. Nor did he ever hit a servant or a woman."

Common sense indicates that there is a clear distinction being made between the aggressive "hit" and non-aggressive "push".



Yes you invented that slur. Thanks again for confirming.


It was an accurate summation of your position based on that quote. 


Are you claiming you are misunderstood Gandalf?
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Reply #318 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:17am
 
Yes FD, that much should be obvious.
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Reply #319 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:33am
 
Can you explain how I have misunderstood you?
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Reply #320 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Freediver indulging in another anti-semitic hate rant for which he is paid.
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Reply #321 - May 28th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Can you explain how I have misunderstood you?


No I take it back. You didn't misunderstand me, you just refuse to listen to me  Smiley

I think I'll pass trying to explain my position for the upteenth time.
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Reply #322 - May 28th, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
Others seem to share my confusion Gandalf.
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Reply #323 - May 28th, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Others seem to share my confusion Gandalf.


Confusion? No FD, I'm pretty sure you and secret just think I'm lying. But thats ok. Like I said I'll pass the opportunity of explaining myself for the upteenth time.  Smiley
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Reply #324 - May 28th, 2017 at 1:48pm
 
I can't speak for SW, but I for one believe you were sincere in your efforts to make a distinction between Muhammad's wife beating and drunk bogan wife beating. After all, it is how the Koran spins it that counts, right?
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