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May 27th, 2017 at 11:48am
 
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ASIO boss sparks row over refugees
The Australian
12:00AM May 27, 2017
Ean Higgins
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Sydney

ASIO director-general Duncan Lewis has declined to elaborate on his claim that there is “absolutely no evidence” of a link between Australia’s refugee intake and ­terrorism, despite multiple Islamic terrorist acts in the past three years involving individuals on ­humanitarian visas, or their children.

One Nation seized on Mr Lewis’s comments, with Queensland senator Malcolm Roberts tweeting:
“If ASIO can’t see a link between refugees and terrorism we are in far greater danger than I thought.”


Labor MP Anne Aly, an Islamic radicalisation expert, supported Mr Lewis, while Philip Ruddock, a former Liberal immigration minister and attorney-general, said while one could not ignore the issue, “simply to blame all refugees is over-simplistic”.

On Thursday, One Nation leader Pauline Hanson grilled Mr Lewis, a former special forces commander, in a Senate estimates hearing about Islam, radicalisation, refugees and terrorism.

She first asked Mr Lewis if he could confirm that the four terrorist attacks and the 12 foiled on Australian soil were “committed by Muslims”.

Mr Lewis replied: “Certainly of the 12 thwarted attacks, one of those indeed involved a right-wing extremist, so, the answer is ‘no’, they have not always been carried out by Muslims.”

During the exchanges, the ASIO chief said: “We’re not interested in religion. We are interested in whether an individual is exhibiting or practising violence.”

Senator Hanson then asked: “Do you believe that the threat is being brought in possibly from Middle Eastern refugees that are coming out to Australia?”

Mr Lewis replied: “I have abso­lutely no evidence to suggest there is a connection between refugees and terrorism.”

Islamic State-inspired gunman Man Haron Monis, who took hostages and killed one of them during the Lindt cafe siege in 2014, came to Australia on a business visa before successfully applying for asylum.

Abdul Numan Haider, the Melbourne 18-year-old killed after attacking police with a knife three months earlier, was an Afghan-born Australian citizen whose family arrived as refugees.

Farhad Jabar, the 15-year-old jihadist who killed NSW police civilian accountant Curtis Cheng in Sydney in 2015 was an Iranian-born Australian citizen of Kurdish-Iraqi background whose family came as refugees.

At least a dozen other first or second-generation Muslim ­mi­grants have been convicted of terror-related charges.


Senator Roberts last night told The Weekend Australian: “We see a lot of terrorism around the world from refugees who have come in particularly from Islamic countries. Most people so far have hidden the obvious correlation between Islam and terrorism and refused to discuss it.

“We’re stunned that ASIO doesn’t do that, and that the Australian Federal Police doesn’t.”

Mr Lewis declined to answer questions requesting he expand on his statements in Senate estimates. He has previously sparked controversy for what some conservative Coalition MPs saw as an effort to play down the threat of ­Islamic radicalisation.

In 2015, The Australian revealed Mr Lewis had telephoned MPs publicly critical of attitudes within the Australian Muslim community, asking them to use the “soothing language favoured by Malcolm Turnbull in their public discussion of Islam”.

Speaking from Liberia last night, Mr Ruddock said it would be unrealistic to say immigration and refugee questions “play no role in relation to trying to resolve difficult issues”, but he said “integrity in selection is always of the ­utmost importance. Some of the people you cite were never refugees and deceived us in relation in to their entitlements.

“Monis was never a refugee. He clearly had difficult psychological problems.”

Mr Ruddock noted many of those who had committed ­Islamic-inspired terrorism here had been born in Australia, and said the question was “why have we failed to pass on our values”, particularly respecting the law.
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Dr Aly said: “I think Duncan Lewis knows more than Pauline Hanson, and if Duncan Lewis is saying that, we should be paying attention to him.”

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton declined to comment.
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Reply #1 - May 27th, 2017 at 1:19pm
 

This idiot needs to be fired for lying and gross incompetence.  Angry  Angry
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Reply #2 - May 27th, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
There is now way that he could know that, especially if his organisation hasn't assessed/investigated/vetted them to the extent the US government is now forced to do before taking any of them off Turnbull's hands because of an agreement made by the black guy and Australia before the present US government.
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Reply #3 - May 27th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
This idiot needs to be fired for lying and gross incompetence.  Angry  Angry


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Here's the article -

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/asio-boss-sparks-row-ov...


It seems that ASIO has to be politically correct.

The world has gone made - we can't call a spade a spade anymore.
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Reply #6 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar and should be dismissed.
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Reply #7 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:25pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar and should be dismissed.



It's not good enough that political correctness is placed
ahead of our national security.

If he was doing his job he would be asking for new powers
to round up all the Muslims on the watch lists &
have them interned without trial -
not just wait for them to attack.

Call a spade a spade - they are watching Muslims not
right wing groups.
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Reply #8 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar ans should be dismissed.




Which facts? {PPlease produce them
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #9 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:30pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar ans should be dismissed.




Which facts? {PPlease produce them

Really?
How ignorant are you of current affairs in Australia?
I suggest you read the opening article...
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Reply #10 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:44pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:30pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar ans should be dismissed.




Which facts? {PPlease produce them

Really?
How ignorant are you of current affairs in Australia?
I suggest you read the opening article...



Current affairs arent facts. I taker it you have none then.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #11 - May 27th, 2017 at 3:50pm
 
Quote:
“I have abso­lutely no evidence to suggest there is a connection between refugees and terrorism.”


He is right you know.

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Fuzzball wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
There is now way that he could know that, especially if his organisation hasn't assessed/investigated/vetted them to the extent the US government is now forced to do before taking any of them off Turnbull's hands because of an agreement made by the black guy and Australia before the present US government.


Thats the thing about having 'no evidence' to claim something fireball - it means precisely that "he could not know that".

So by your own criteria, he wasn't lying.
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Reply #13 - May 27th, 2017 at 6:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar ans should be dismissed.




Which facts? {PPlease produce them


The Lindt siege terrorist Monis was a refugee
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Reply #14 - May 27th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:30pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No need the facts prove Lewis lied and is either ignorant and should be dismissed or a liar ans should be dismissed.




Which facts? {PPlease produce them

Really?
How ignorant are you of current affairs in Australia?
I suggest you read the opening article...



Current affairs arent facts. I taker it you have none then.

Nope.
I take it you choose to lie... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
To yourself and about others Roll Eyes
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