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Reply #30 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:21pm

Ausnat wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:11pm:

If everybody is so concerned about this, then why not complain (again) to the government to stop sending live sheep to the middle east. i dont believe they stopped the practice.

No they have,nt stopped this practice Aussie and Mantra made some good points about the Liberals reviving it..Steve Irwin was a wonderful advocate for live export issues.

A lady I know a lady from Queensland who has spent her whole life fighting for the banning of live sheep exports..but the bearucracy surrounding this and self interest groups means she makes very little headway. She does not like Peta. The live export indusrty is very lucrative for the Government

Ill put a link to her site.."People Against Live Exports"..

http://www.livexports.com/

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #31 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:33pm Steve Irwin supported the cattle industry in Australia and called for it's expansion. He opposed the kangaroo harvest, even without a live export issue. He was just another person with wierd taboos about what animals you can and cannot eat.
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Food Reply #32 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:34pm Petition signed.
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: Food Reply #33 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:50pm Aussie says- 'petition signed' ok then - you did good and Freediver I did mention this is in relation to sheep live exports re Steve..as for advocating anything detrimental to the welfare of animals..cattle or crocs or whatever..Id have to be sceptical about that ..esp. where Steve was concerned.
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Re: Food
Reply #34 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:27pm

mantra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 4:08pm:

I have no problem Oceans if an animal is killed quickly and humanely - as you say your husband who was a professional hunter, did.

But like you I agree our farming practices leave a lot to be desired. The breeding of animals for consumption is horrific in some industries. Australia is slow to implement animal welfare laws and as far as animal export goes, the ALP put a stop to this practice. When the Liberals got back into power, they could see a lucrative industry and revived it.

Seems as though some people believe that animals feel no pain.

Most people who believe our farming practises need overhauling are so far removed from what farming life entails that they wouldn't know.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #35 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:31pm In their defence, they are usually willing to pay extra for food that was raised to higher standards, especially with eggs and chicken. Beef isn't such a problem in Australia, but it is overseas.
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Food Reply #36 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:42pm Which is their prerogative. Niche markets are a valuable part of an economy. The real problems lie when PETARDS hijack farming practises such as mulesing and portray farmers in a bad light. This perpetuates a false image that sticks in the minds of urban eco-warriors that pontificate from their McMansions in suburbia
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #37 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:45pm How is the image false?
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Reply #38 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:50pm

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:42pm:

Which is their prerogative. Niche markets are a valuable part of an economy.

The real problems lie when PETARDS hijack farming practises such as mulesing and portray farmers in a bad light. This perpetuates a false image that sticks in the minds of urban eco-warriors that pontificate from their McMansions in suburbia

Do you mean issues IQ or actual practices..

And yes ..how is it false?

Farming practices are ,on the whole, archaic.

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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Food Reply #39 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:52pm They portray the farmers as being cruel by performing mulesing when it achieves the opposite effect on the percentage of overall loss of livestock and a long drawn out death.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #40 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 5:57pm You are basing that on a false dichotomy which the 'urban eco-warriors' do not accept.
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Food Reply #41 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 6:14pm They do not accept it because they are so far removed from the way life is in farming
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #42 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 6:18pm There is nothing inherent to farming that says you have to raise sheep in a hot desert.
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Food Reply #43 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 6:33pm There's nothing inherent in farming that says you can't.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51694 At my desk.	Re: Food Reply #44 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 6:43pm So the fact that 'urban eco-warriors' do not understand the way of life is a moot point.
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