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The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 17th, 2021 at 4:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:


The flaw in the argument here is that the actions of the KKK and white/Christian  individual terrorists are almost universally condemned by western society, whereas Muslim society often excuses those of Islamic terrorists or 'condemns' in such a way that the inference is clearly that western society is to blame for provoking these actions.
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Reply #2 - Mar 17th, 2021 at 4:27pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 4:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:


The flaw in the argument here is that the actions of the KKK and white/Christian  individual terrorists are almost universally condemned by western society, whereas Muslim society often excuses those of Islamic terrorists or 'condemns' in such a way that the inference is clearly that western society is to blame for provoking these actions.


Not quite true. Problem is, you only read what the MSM prints and it only prints stuff that is critical of Muslims.  In reality they condemn Terrorism in no uncertain terms. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Mar 17th, 2021 at 4:31pm
 
What about the

Best Way to Combat Islamic apologists?
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Reply #4 - Mar 18th, 2021 at 7:51am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
What about the

Best Way to Combat Islamic apologists?


Easy, get them some mental help so that they can see the truth.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 18th, 2021 at 9:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:

Islam - what's to like about it???  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 12:08am
 
"
A YouGov survey for the Daily Telegraph,[6] published two weeks after the July 2005 bombings in the London Underground, showed that 88% of British Muslims were opposed to the bombings,
while 6% (about 100,000 individuals) fully supported them, and one British Muslim in four expressed some sympathy with the motives of the bombers.
" - Wiki

100 thousand muslims supported the bombings. One in four expressed some sympathy with the motives of the bombers

This is the problem with muslim immigration, 6% of them will support violence, bombings, killing, maiming, and not give a stuff, and yet they live in the UK
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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 9:27am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:




what about Anti British   which you have in spades..
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Reply #8 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 12:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 18th, 2021 at 9:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:

Islam - what's to like about it???  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



i think its the testosterone.

the woke left are comprised of frustrated feminists and weak timid smug men.
so they arent getting any good sex.

they look at some very hairy beast of a man and their primitive brain is aroused.

its primal that people like Merkel who isnt getting any action would fantasise about having 3 million young virile horny hairy men roaming around .

its no different to hugh hefner wanting a lot of babes decorating his pool
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Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 12:38pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2021 at 9:27am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:




what about Anti British   which you have in spades..


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Reply #10 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 2:01pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 19th, 2021 at 9:27am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17th, 2021 at 3:17pm:


what about Anti British   which you have in spades..


Moi?  Anti-British?  Really?  I must tell my wife. You know she was born in the UK?  In Yorkshire.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Cods.  You mistake me being anti-Tory for being anti-British.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 2:11pm
 
We can always teach them -
put the Muslims in a good Christian school.


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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 9:37pm
 
The best way is to avoid:

Untruthful Pity

How Islamism burrowed almost unopposed into Europe’s fabric.
Theodore Dalrymple, October 29, 2020

Terrorist attacks, like troubles, rarely come singly. They are subject to their own version of the Werther effect, so called after the hero of Goethe’s novel, who killed himself for unrequited love, the publication being followed by a rash of suicides by romantic young men.

The night before the latest Islamist outrage in France, in which a terrorist killed three people in the Basilica of Notre-Dame de Nice, I was reading a short book about Islamist terrorism in Europe, preparatory to writing an article about the beheading by a Chechen refugee of Samuel Paty, the teacher who had used the cartoons of Muhammad in his civics class to teach about freedom of expression, two weeks ago.

The book was by Hamid Zanaz. The author is of Algerian origin, a philosopher who has not only abandoned his ancestral religion but is now opposed to it in all its guises. His book relates a story which goes far to explain how Islamism has been able to burrow, almost unopposed, into the fabric of Europe. The story relates to Norway, but something similar could be told of many, if not all, Western European countries. I will quote in extenso:

Karsten Nordal Hauken, a politician raped by a Somalian [refugee in Norway], opposed the deportation of his aggressor: “I lost years due to depression and cannabis. . . . I have learned that the rapist’s culture of origin is completely different from ours. In his culture, sexual abuse is above all a matter of taking power and not the result of sexual desire: it is not considered a homosexual act. To understand how it could occur, one has to overcome one’s prejudices. . . .”

He continued:

“I don’t feel any anger towards my aggressor, because I seem him more as the product of an unjust world. The product of an upbringing marked by war and privations. . . . I want us to continue to help the refugees despite such a context. . . . I am first a human being and not a Norwegian. No, I am part of the world, and unfortunately the world is unjust.”

In other words, it was really his fault, as an inhabitant of an unjustly privileged country, that the Somalian raped him. He got what he deserved: just as, by the same logic, the woman in the Basilica of Notre-Dame de Nice deserved her decapitation.

Some version of this peculiar state of mind is widespread in Europe (and probably in America, too), especially among the intelligentsia. Needless to say, it is hardly a state of mind propitious to countering a vicious and dangerous ideology. To understand the mentality, two texts spring to mind: one by G.K. Chesterton and one by Max Frisch.

In Orthodoxy, Chesterton wrote that the modern world “is full of wild and wasted virtues.” He continued:

When a religious scheme is shattered . . . it is not merely the vices that are less loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. . . . some humanitarians care only for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful.

What pithier way to characterize Hauken’s egotistical state of mind than untruthful pity? And what terrible damage his untruthful pity, or something like it, has done.

The second text, that of Max Frisch’s great play The Fire Raisers, captures the sheer cowardice of Nordal Hauken’s state of mind, and that of the many like him. In the play, a businessman called Biedermann admits a poor itinerant arsonist into his house, partly from charity and partly from a pusillanimous inability to say no (it is difficult to disentangle the two). The arsonist gives ever-clearer indications that he intends to burn the house down, but Biedermann, again partly from blindness and social embarrassment but mostly from cowardice, refuses to recognize it and expel the arsonist. The latter burns the house down, killing Biedermann and his wife, who then go to hell.

Frisch’s play, published in 1953, is an allegory of the takeover of societies by Nazi and Communist totalitarianism, but it is of much wider application to that of any society or organization that faces destruction by those who insinuate themselves into it with the intention or desire to destroy it.
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Reply #13 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 6:41pm
 
Have you tried obsessively posting spineless apologetics for terrorism and oppression on online forums Brian?
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Reply #14 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 6:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 13th, 2021 at 6:41pm:
Have you tried obsessively posting spineless apologetics for terrorism and oppression on online forums Brian?


You answer my questions and I might answer yours, Freediver. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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