Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 5^th, 2021 at 5:26pm:


Of course. Do you think you can just come here, say any old krap, and expect everyone to agree with you?

Karnal wrote on May 5^th, 2021 at 5:39pm:


Well - it seems, on the record, that those taken from their 'families' were in peril one way or another or all...... so saying they were 'stolen' is the lie.  So it isn't calling those who say that liars - it is saying that the basis on which they've been sold their story is a lie.

Many need to learn the difference.....

"Pascoe's suggestion that Boongs used aspects of agriculture in their hunting and gathering, transformed and in some senses cultivated the land they occupied is an entirely harmless argument. You acknowledge this yourself. Pascoe isn't just trying to disprove terra nullius, he's involved in the project of uncovering traditional Aboriginal land-management practices. "

So - aspects - already covered many places elsewhere and shown to be insignificant, being part of an extended hunter/gatherer mode... what did they call it - complex hunter/gatherers who caught fish and tossed a few seeds sometimes....

Good to see you admitting that part of Pascoe's Pilgrimage - that long days' journey into intellectual darkness - was to destroy the concept of Terra Nullius - he did no such thing, it seems... instead her verified it by bringing to light the realities...

Clearly when there was a complex hunter/gatherer society with no established government and no common law and division between - what was it - 5000 tribes - there was Terra Nullius in accordance with the rules at that time... please move on... it's 2021... not 1721 ....

There was no government to make a treaty with - discussion ends.  Start living in the present...

Now then - which part of that style of hunter/gatherer land 'management' will suit the modern era, d'ya think?  Start by trotting out the old 'burnoffs' again... already dead and buried....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 5^th, 2021 at 5:59pm:


They most certainly were stolen, by the definition of the law. After the 1967 referendum, Boongs were counted in the census. I have personally met Boongs who were taken from their mothers and adopted after Boongs were granted citizenship. The reason? They were half-castes and the policy was assimilation. No parental orders were made or consented to. They were literally taken from their cribs and their mothers sent home.

Prior to 67, Boongs were removed under the state protection acts. This was systematic, and not for any welfare reasons. In Queensland and Western Australia, Boongs were removed to train them as domestic and farm labourers. Boongs were seen as a blight on the land and were placed in missions to get them off the settlements, in most cases shanty camps near creeks, the only place they were permitted to live. I have also met those who were removed for these reasons.

All of this is official history, and the subject of a number of reports you've well aware of. Every major political party sees it as a historical stain on our nation. It's not ancient history, and children are being removed today as a result of the intergenerational trauma - children, families, communities, separated and destroyed.

We've had the apology, we've moved on from that, but Aboriginal history is Australian history. Some resist the truth. Their project is the systematic destruction of all Aboriginal life in Australia. The very mention of Boongs is unconscionable. Stolen generations, traditional land practices, the lot. They want a complete whitewash, and they will quite happily lie to achieve these ends.

You?

Children are being removed today and in the past because of neglect, abuse both physical and sexual, and for a better and safer life.

You cannot blame 'intergenerational' problems on White Australia - the Abos need to pick themselves up and stop their own rot instead of blaming everyone else...

Nobody forces them to do the things they do.... the intergenerational problems are that they suffer abuse and neglect and then pass it on, over and over... now who's to blame for that?  Anyone but themselves... acting like children...

First remove the log from your own eye....

I find it remarkable that there have been no efforts to refute what Pascoe said about Indigenous Australians.  Even Valkie has to concede he was wrong, there was evidence to support Pascoe's thesis - Indigenous Australians did "farm the land".  Something the Racists are still denying.  Like Karnal I am waiting of the attempts to refute exactly what Pascoe said.  I am yet to see any such attempt.  Instead all we read are ad hominem insults directed at Pascoe, Karnal, myself and anybody who dares to put an oar into the water to back back his thesis.  We have seen no effort on their part to refute the claims he has made by citing and quoting the journals of the early Explorers or Settlers.   Were what they were describing as far as cultivation wrong?  If so, how so?  Or are we just going to on and endless circle of insults and screaming denials?  You know the sort we see all the time from the Racists.  Tsk, tsk. 

They didn't, dear boy. The person I met, removed in 1969, had siblings left in her mother's care.

She was removed - wait for it - because she wasn't tinted.

You?

Karnal wrote on May 5^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:

Bs.