Black Americans Debunk Liberal Talking Point That Voter ID Is ‘Racist’: ‘They’re Ignorant’

By  Amanda Prestigiacomo
Apr 2, 2021

https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-black-americans-debunk-liberal-talking-poin...




"Voter ID Is ‘Racist’" - Is presented, as a devious tactic, as one of those intentionally false debating subjects.

Not presented as a legitimate argument.

But intended to elicit an emotional fear of challenging this FALSE subject, in debate.

Grow a pair - if you call yourself a Conservative !

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:


Requiring voter ID is (just) one of the CONservatives' strategies to suppress voter turnout.

How is anyone's vote suppressed?

No ID. No vote. Simple.


Who does such a policy target? People who would normally NOT vote Republican. Else why would Republicans - including people like yourself - be calling for it to be mandated/expanded?

Like many other ideas designed to "protect voting integrity" (but in reality designed to try and ensure Republican election wins), it is a solution looking for a problem which doesn't exist.

Lower voter turnout favours the CONservatives.

So, in order to try and ensure that there is a lower voter turnout, Republicans seek to impose more and more "conditions" on people's right to vote, so that in a country where voting is voluntary, many people who would not vote for them, are encouraged not to bother voting at all.

It seems you have a bit of a "thing" going on about voter ID requirements at present - a reference being made to it in your signature, for example.

Tell me...just how big of a (documented) problem voter fraud actually is, such that mandatory voter ID laws are required.

Or is it only an issue with you (and people of your ilk), because a lot of people turned out at the last election to ensure that "the other side won"?

In other words, had you gotten the result you wanted at the last election, would you be banging on about voter ID laws now?

I suspect not...

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 8:27am:


That is your opinion. And an opinion is all it is.

Others hold, shall we say, differing opinions.

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

The legal votes cast by legal voters WERE counted. That is a fact.

Your "opinion" is that, were the system "rigged" in a such a way as to ensure that only "like-minded" people were able to cast a vote, a different outcome would have ensued.

Not necessarily a "just" outcome. Nor necessarily one reflecting the will of the majority of people.

Just the one you wanted, but ultimately failed to get.

So, because you didn't get the result you wanted, you want to change the laws, to fix a practically non-existent issue, to ensure that you do get the result you want next time around, and in all subsequent elections.

Cry me a river...

I've asked this in other threads where people call for strict voter ID laws, and so may as well ask it here...

What actual documented problem do you think voter ID laws will solve, given the historically very low instances of voter fraud evident in U.S elections?

A story from a right wing broadcaster with an expensive suit and pretty pink tie interviewing educated people in the centre of a major city about this is a joke, They all said that there was a DMV around the corner ? Maybe a different story for many less educated rural people who have the nearest DMV 170 miles away, people who do not drive, people with medical conditions, the poor etc ?

Still nit picking this one area is disingenuous, yes there is a race element, and age element a wealth element, a region element etc but it is far from the major concern. Removing Voting boxes, Closing Polling locations, making illegal to give a person with a 9 hour wait to vote a drink (WTF) OH white communities do not get a 9 hour wait it is more like 9 minutes if that. Yes this is racist.

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 9:57am:


Not all of us.

You're - as Dnarever pointed out - using a (very) small subset of the vote suppression argument to push an agenda.

"See! The blacks don't think voter ID laws are racist!".

Perhaps not.

But the combination of methods employed by (generally) Republicans ARE designed for a specific purpose. That is, to marginalise or disenfranchise a cohort of would-be voters who would likely vote Democrat

I asked what problem voter ID laws are intended to solve, given historically low instances of documented fraud within the U.S electoral system.

Predictably, you've not responded.

Why?

Because we both know fraud is not the "problem" voter ID laws are intended to solve.

No.

Voter ID laws are designed to "lessen" the actual, existent problem of people voting for anyone other than the Republicans.

How do we know this?

Because of the noise around voter ID laws being made post-election. Because of other measures around denying food or water to someone waiting for hours to vote. That isn't about food or water being used to "buy" votes. That is fairly and squarely about:

A) Ensuring that "some" people wait as long as possible to cast a vote, and

B) making the wait as onerous as is possible...again, so that many people who would vote for "the other guy", are encouraged not to bother.

Do you know something?

Maybe...just maybe,,,if the Republicans actually had the interests of all front and centre when formulating policy, they wouldn't have to resort to finding solutions to non-existent problem in the electoral system, to give themselves a legitimate chance of winning elections on their own merit.

It's a worry when one "side" feels that their only chance of winning office is to "rig" the process.

"Sad", indeed. 

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 10:34am:


Blacks are too stupid to vote Republican, Mix. Mr Trump pointed that out.

They're also stupid if they vote Democrat. Democrat cities have been run badly, over many years.

Either way, blacks are just stupid. Mr Trump said.

Panther wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 11:42pm:


You deny your racism too, dear.

I say, there's quite a lot of denial going on these days, no?