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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #15 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 7:58am

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 1:16am:

Panther wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 11:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 10:34am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 9:57am:

Black Americans don't agree with you!

When you are born here you get a birth certificate and are signed up for a social security number. Years ago people wanting to have a fake ID would visit a cemetery, pick a child born about the time they were and died in the first year or two. Then request a birth certificate and apply for a SSN. Those days are over and everyone has everything they need for a government Photo ID by the time they are two years old.

You people just love to make everything about race, that is racist!

Not all of us.

You're - as Dnarever pointed out - using a (very) small subset of the vote suppression argument to push an agenda.

"See! The blacks don't think voter ID laws are racist!".

Perhaps not.

But the combination of methods employed by (generally) Republicans ARE designed for a specific purpose. That is, to marginalise or disenfranchise a cohort of would-be voters who would likely vote Democrat

I asked what problem voter ID laws are intended to solve, given historically low instances of documented fraud within the U.S electoral system.

Predictably, you've not responded.

Why?

Because we both know fraud is not the "problem" voter ID laws are intended to solve.

No.

Voter ID laws are designed to "lessen" the actual, existent problem of people voting for anyone other than the Republicans.

How do we know this?

Because of the noise around voter ID laws being made post-election. Because of other measures around denying food or water to someone waiting for hours to vote. That isn't about food or water being used to "buy" votes. That is fairly and squarely about:

A) Ensuring that "some" people wait as long as possible to cast a vote, and

B) making the wait as onerous as is possible...again, so that many people who would vote for "the other guy", are encouraged not to bother.

Do you know something?

Maybe...just maybe,,,if the Republicans actually had the interests of all front and centre when formulating policy, they wouldn't have to resort to finding solutions to non-existent problem in the electoral system, to give themselves a legitimate chance of winning elections on their own merit.

It's a worry when one "side" feels that their only chance of winning office is to "rig" the process.

"Sad", indeed. Roll Eyes

Blacks are too stupid to vote Republican, Mix. Mr Trump pointed that out.

They're also stupid if they vote Democrat. Democrat cities have been run badly, over many years.

Either way, blacks are just stupid. Mr Trump said.

You deny your racism too, dear.

I say, there's quite a lot of denial going on these days, no?

You could go home to India. The BJP would s.h.i.t can you off to Pakistan. Better off staying in a racist, intolerant, white country like Australia.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #16 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #17 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #18 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:26am

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 8:27am:

Every American who has reached their sixteenth birthday has government issued identification. People who do not get a drivers license can get the ID at the local DMV for free since it isn't a permit and will be used for a variety legal transactions. It is the white liberal that claims expecting people to produce the same identification they will use everyday for others purposes is voter suppression. I know people who do not drive and their ID looks a lot like a drivers license but the background and information is different.

If only the legal votes by legal voters had been counted I would accept the results while wondering how so many people could be so blind!

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If only the legal votes by legal voters had been counted I would accept the results while wondering how so many people could be so blind

They were. You are.

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Every American who has reached their sixteenth birthday has government issued identification.

BS.

Over 11% Don't.

Many cannot get voter ID particularly among the elderly.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #19 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Which, I guess, is why Republicans are seeking to restrict voting, right?

Again. You didn't get the result you wanted, so you now want to change the rules so you can effectively "entrench" one-party rule in a voluntary voting electoral system.

Can't quite believe the Democrats were able to win an election?

Think they can only "win fraudulently"?

So...change the rules to effectively ensure that they can't win going forward.

A real champion of Democracy you are... Roll Eyes

Why is it that Republicans always seek to be less, rather than more, inclusive?

Because they Govern only for a select few...and the rest should neither be seen nor heard from. Roll Eyes

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #20 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:03am

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Which, I guess, is why Republicans are seeking to restrict voting, right?

Again. You didn't get the result you wanted, so you now want to change the rules so you can effectively "entrench" one-party rule in a voluntary voting electoral system.

Can't quite believe the Democrats were able to win an election?

Think they can only "win fraudulently"?

So...change the rules to effectively ensure that they can't win going forward.

A real champion of Democracy you are...

Why is it that Republicans always seek to be less, rather than more, inclusive?

Because they Govern only for a select few...and the rest should neither be seen nor heard from. Roll Eyes

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law. Laws meant to Govern themselves.........as Individuals.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #21 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:06am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Yet it is the Republicans who rig elections by preventing legitimate votes.

Nothing in this list has anything to do with voter fraud that is just a bogus justification for election rigging.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #22 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:19am

Panther wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Which, I guess, is why Republicans are seeking to restrict voting, right?

Again. You didn't get the result you wanted, so you now want to change the rules so you can effectively "entrench" one-party rule in a voluntary voting electoral system.

Can't quite believe the Democrats were able to win an election?

Think they can only "win fraudulently"?

So...change the rules to effectively ensure that they can't win going forward.

A real champion of Democracy you are...

Why is it that Republicans always seek to be less, rather than more, inclusive?

Because they Govern only for a select few...and the rest should neither be seen nor heard from. Roll Eyes

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law.

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Then to consider that you were a supporter of King Donald.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #23 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:27am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:19am:

Panther wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Which, I guess, is why Republicans are seeking to restrict voting, right?

Again. You didn't get the result you wanted, so you now want to change the rules so you can effectively "entrench" one-party rule in a voluntary voting electoral system.

Can't quite believe the Democrats were able to win an election?

Think they can only "win fraudulently"?

So...change the rules to effectively ensure that they can't win going forward.

A real champion of Democracy you are...

Why is it that Republicans always seek to be less, rather than more, inclusive?

Because they Govern only for a select few...and the rest should neither be seen nor heard from. Roll Eyes

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law. Laws meant to Govern themselves.........as Individuals.

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Then to consider that you were a supporter of King Donald.

America comes First & Foremost.......I am a supporter of a Free America.....Free to decide upon it's own paths to take, to the ends that benefit the American People, while empowering the American People with the inalienable Right & ability to defend themselves from their own Government...... America is about more than one man.......always has been, always will be.....

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #24 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:34am

Panther wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law. Laws meant to Govern themselves.........as Individuals.

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The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People

The constitution was framed by James Madison the convention chaired by George Washington and the founding Fathers contributed. i.e about 20 elite white males in total.

Saying that this document came from the people does not make it true it came from a very small number of wealthy entitled white male individuals.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #25 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:42am

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 7:58am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 1:16am:

Panther wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 11:42pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 11:27am:

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 10:34am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2021 at 9:57am:

Black Americans don't agree with you!

When you are born here you get a birth certificate and are signed up for a social security number. Years ago people wanting to have a fake ID would visit a cemetery, pick a child born about the time they were and died in the first year or two. Then request a birth certificate and apply for a SSN. Those days are over and everyone has everything they need for a government Photo ID by the time they are two years old.

You people just love to make everything about race, that is racist!

Not all of us.

You're - as Dnarever pointed out - using a (very) small subset of the vote suppression argument to push an agenda.

"See! The blacks don't think voter ID laws are racist!".

Perhaps not.

But the combination of methods employed by (generally) Republicans ARE designed for a specific purpose. That is, to marginalise or disenfranchise a cohort of would-be voters who would likely vote Democrat

I asked what problem voter ID laws are intended to solve, given historically low instances of documented fraud within the U.S electoral system.

Predictably, you've not responded.

Why?

Because we both know fraud is not the "problem" voter ID laws are intended to solve.

No.

Voter ID laws are designed to "lessen" the actual, existent problem of people voting for anyone other than the Republicans.

How do we know this?

Because of the noise around voter ID laws being made post-election. Because of other measures around denying food or water to someone waiting for hours to vote. That isn't about food or water being used to "buy" votes. That is fairly and squarely about:

A) Ensuring that "some" people wait as long as possible to cast a vote, and

B) making the wait as onerous as is possible...again, so that many people who would vote for "the other guy", are encouraged not to bother.

Do you know something?

Maybe...just maybe,,,if the Republicans actually had the interests of all front and centre when formulating policy, they wouldn't have to resort to finding solutions to non-existent problem in the electoral system, to give themselves a legitimate chance of winning elections on their own merit.

It's a worry when one "side" feels that their only chance of winning office is to "rig" the process.

"Sad", indeed. Roll Eyes

Blacks are too stupid to vote Republican, Mix. Mr Trump pointed that out.

They're also stupid if they vote Democrat. Democrat cities have been run badly, over many years.

Either way, blacks are just stupid. Mr Trump said.

You deny your racism too, dear.

I say, there's quite a lot of denial going on these days, no?

You could go home to India. The BJP would s.h.i.t can you off to Pakistan. Better off staying in a racist, intolerant, white country like Australia.

Oh, I would, dear. Alas, covid.

Every time I go to India, they call me sir.

You?

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Reply #26 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:42am

Panther wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:27am:

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law. Laws meant to Govern themselves.........as Individuals.

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the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution.

They were the founding fathers not the god fathers and the minority they were trying to protect was not the corrupt minority as is the case today.

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #27 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:48am

Panther wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

Mix_Master wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 8:18am:

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2021 at 11:33pm:

Give me the simple answer to how anyone's vote is being suppressed!

Just a few currently in place:

Removing vote boxes making voting more difficult

Closing voting locations causing increased travel to vote and drastically increasing queues up to 12 hours or so but only in poorer often coloured areas in democrat regions. Republican areas voter queues are close to non existant.

Making it more difficult to vote by mail.

Clearing democrat area voter rolls.

Making it illegal to supply water of food in a voting queue.

Making it legal for the state government to overturn the election result by selecting their own Electoral college voters. Yes some of the law changes in states would allow the election steal that didn't work in 2021 to work in the future.

Limiting the time of voting and the period of voting.

Removing same day registration and voting.

To summarise. The Dems can't win without voter fraud. Why use seven words when you can use two hundred?

Which, I guess, is why Republicans are seeking to restrict voting, right?

Again. You didn't get the result you wanted, so you now want to change the rules so you can effectively "entrench" one-party rule in a voluntary voting electoral system.

Can't quite believe the Democrats were able to win an election?

Think they can only "win fraudulently"?

So...change the rules to effectively ensure that they can't win going forward.

A real champion of Democracy you are...

Why is it that Republicans always seek to be less, rather than more, inclusive?

Because they Govern only for a select few...and the rest should neither be seen nor heard from. Roll Eyes

Why do people always say things like that when they aren't true......AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY......never was, & hopefully never will be.........it's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, where the rule of the majority is not the order of the day......the Rights of the Minority are protected by Law.....And America is governed by laws.....the United States Constitution......

The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People where all the powers of an intentionally limited government are spelled out to hold the Federal Government in check......The First 10 Amendments to the US Constitution spell out, & affirm the inalienable Rights of the People, & what the Federal Government is Forbidden to do regarding those Rights, along with what the Federal Government must do to protect & defend the Rights of the People.

Long story short......the People, in the Constitution, gave the States....not the Federal Government......all the power to make the rules pertaining to elections. Therefore, it isn't unusual for there to be different rules on voter eligibility & prerequisites, State to State.

As always, if the American People determine they would want to change this allocation of power, they & only they, can affect change by amending the US Constitution. The Federal Government does not have the power to make such changes.......only the People......The US Constitution is the Peoples document......The People Make the Law. Laws meant to Govern themselves.........as Individuals.

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You're playing word games, methinks. There's another poster on these boards you should get to know better. That worthy, too, likes word games. Roll Eyes

Still, opinions are like arseholes...and you're entitled to yours as much as the next person.

Here's another one.

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The United States, while basically a republic, is best described as a “representative democracy.”

https://www.thoughtco.com/republic-vs-democracy-4169936

None of which addresses the central point I and others were making, which is that Republicans actively seek to make the "Democratic process" (of voting for elected representatives Roll Eyes

) LESS, rather than MORE representative of the will of the majority of people, by seeking to "exclude" certain people from exercising their right to vote.

Perhaps your "rebuttal" was a cleverly disguised way of saying "But a LESS representative electoral system is exactly what the constitution seeks to achieve!"

I'd beg to differ. As would others.

It enshrines certain rights and protections. In what is best described in form and function as a "Representative Democracy".

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Re: Black Americans Debunk - Voter ID Is ‘Racist’
Reply #28 - Apr 5^th, 2021 at 11:42am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 5^th, 2021 at 10:34am:

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The Federal Government derives it's sole source of power from the People, & the People's document....the Constitution.....written by the People, for the People

The constitution was framed by James Madison the convention chaired by George Washington and the founding Fathers contributed. i.e about 20 elite white males in total.

Saying that this document came from the people does not make it true it came from a very small number of wealthy entitled white male individuals.

The People

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White, & rightfully so.....over 98% of Americans were white back then. Extreme Wealth was not frowned upon as it is now.....where white apologists have replaced the pride of character & achievement of those who built America those years before us. The Wealthy Elite were what all Americans -- the World's inhabitants -- aspired to back then, as many still do.....the intense desire to achieve those heights of success still comes from hard work & perseverance, not welfare & government handouts.......those are designed for political slaves, prisoners, & the mediocre.....

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