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Reply #165 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:11pm:
They have not turned on the worker. Rather, both left and right have turned on the unions, on account of the inescapable fact that they create unemployment.



The struggle of the urban proletariat is only
won by joining their forces in strong unions.
Without them people would be working for a bowl of rice per day.


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Reply #166 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:00pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:28pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 8:11pm:
They have not turned on the worker. Rather, both left and right have turned on the unions, on account of the inescapable fact that they create unemployment.



The struggle of the urban proletariat is only
won by joining their forces in strong unions.
Without them people would be working for a bowl of rice per day.


Thanks comrade Bobby.


Greggy told me about it -
he read it in this book:

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Reply #167 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:17pm
 
Without unions there would be higher employment. But nobody would get paid.
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Reply #168 - Sep 28th, 2021 at 8:26am
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Without unions there would be higher employment. But nobody would get paid.



Yes ... that's called slavery.

Nevermind what they/he(FD) says about the "left elite" .... the left elite have never been left .....

they are merely career politicians who are at heart as "right elite" as any Tory.

Take Anna Bligh as an example.

Unions don't cause unemployment .... they exist to stop exploitation by the unscrupulous of those whose only skill was to provide their labour.

Seems FD fits the unscrupulous tag to a tee.
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Reply #169 - Sep 28th, 2021 at 8:56am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 8:26am:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Without unions there would be higher employment. But nobody would get paid.



Yes ... that's called slavery.

Nevermind what they/he(FD) says about the "left elite" .... the left elite have never been left .....

they are merely career politicians who are at heart as "right elite" as any Tory.

Take Anna Bligh as an example.

Unions don't cause unemployment .... they exist to stop exploitation by the unscrupulous of those whose only skill was to provide their labour.

Seems FD fits the unscrupulous tag to a tee.

Yes. It's unfortunate that workers' legal protections (at least in the west) that clearly came out of unionism, are so taken for granted that, in the 21st century, their origins have been lost on many, who seem to assume that they have always existed and (in some cases) that these protections under law are a cancer on society.

And, yes, I also believe that this 'left' / 'right' divide obfuscates the fact that those who ascend to high affluence generally tend to think alike about those 'beneath' them regardless of their respective family's origin. The likely reason being that we are instinctively and deeply concerned with social status and tend to look for visual and philosophical indicators to distance ourselves from identification with a relative underclass.

I mentioned him above, but George Orwell's life experiences forged a strange and powerful dialectic in him when they had him oscillating from one politico/social pole to the other.
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Reply #170 - Sep 28th, 2021 at 4:59pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Without unions there would be higher employment. But nobody would get paid.



Workers of the world unite.
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Reply #171 - Sep 28th, 2021 at 5:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 4:59pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Without unions there would be higher employment. But nobody would get paid.



Workers of the world unite.

Dyslexics on the world untie.
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Reply #172 - Sep 28th, 2021 at 6:47pm
 
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Yes. It's unfortunate that workers' legal protections (at least in the west) that clearly came out of unionism, are so taken for granted that, in the 21st century, their origins have been lost on many, who seem to assume that they have always existed and (in some cases) that these protections under law are a cancer on society.


Do you agree that they increase unemployment?
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Reply #173 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:17am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 6:37am:

You shouldn't have responded to FD bumping this thread back into view.

Unions wouldn't exist if it weren't for the attitudes, the greed & arrogance of those employers who choose to exploit the labour of others.


If I am wrong about unions increasing unemployment, shouldn't you take the opportunity to prove it, rather than running away?
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Reply #174 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:17am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 6:37am:

You shouldn't have responded to FD bumping this thread back into view.

Unions wouldn't exist if it weren't for the attitudes, the greed & arrogance of those employers who choose to exploit the labour of others.


If I am wrong about unions increasing unemployment, shouldn't you take the opportunity to prove it, rather than running away?


No…. You should prove that they do.

You haven’t so far.

Workers deserve a secure living wage.

All you espouse are the reasons employers don’t want to pay those conditions & equate that as causing unemployment.

Do you enjoy any financial & employment security in your life?

Like the majority or Union bashers you’re a hypocrite.
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Reply #175 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:40am
 
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All you espouse are the reasons employers don’t want to pay those conditions & equate that as causing unemployment.


Can you quote me?
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Reply #176 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:46am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 9:17am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 6:37am:

You shouldn't have responded to FD bumping this thread back into view.

Unions wouldn't exist if it weren't for the attitudes, the greed & arrogance of those employers who choose to exploit the labour of others.


If I am wrong about unions increasing unemployment, shouldn't you take the opportunity to prove it, rather than running away?


Actually, the onus is on you to prove your claim that unions increase unemployment.

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Reply #177 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:12am
 
Greg what do you think happens when the price of something gets pushed up by the actions of unions or government intervention?

Would you say that the unions share your wilful ignorance of microeconomics?
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Reply #178 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:14am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:12am:
Greg what do you think happens when the price of something gets pushed up by the actions of unions or government intervention?

Would you say that the unions share your wilful ignorance of microeconomics?


As I said before, the onus is on you to prove your claim.

Thus far, you have not managed to do that.

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Reply #179 - Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:15am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:14am:
freediver wrote on Oct 29th, 2021 at 10:12am:
Greg what do you think happens when the price of something gets pushed up by the actions of unions or government intervention?

Would you say that the unions share your wilful ignorance of microeconomics?


As I said before, the onus is on you to prove your claim.

Thus far, you have not managed to do that.



I don't need to prove anything if you are too scared to disagree with what I say. That was, after all, the point I was making.
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