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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #90 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:22am

Sophia wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

Saying “nothing” means zero right?

So when someone says they started off with nothing, suggests zero is a starting point?

Not always. Depends on the reference. For instance, a temperature of Absolute Zero is -273.1459 deg C.

0 deg C is not a temperature of nothing. It is 1 deg C higher than -1 deg C
0 degrees is top dead centre on a rotating machine. It isn't a position of nothing.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #92 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:30am

crocodile wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

Saying “nothing” means zero right?

So when someone says they started off with nothing, suggests zero is a starting point?

Not always. Depends on the refence. For instance, a temperature of Absolute Zero is -273.1459 deg C.

0 deg C is not a temperature of nothing. It is 1 deg C higher than -1 deg C
0 degrees is top dead centre on a rotating machine. It isn't a position of nothing.

The application and meaning of zero seems flexible depending on the life situation.
It is neither nor.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #93 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:34am

Sophia wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:30am:

crocodile wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

Saying “nothing” means zero right?

So when someone says they started off with nothing, suggests zero is a starting point?

Not always. Depends on the refence. For instance, a temperature of Absolute Zero is -273.1459 deg C.

0 deg C is not a temperature of nothing. It is 1 deg C higher than -1 deg C
0 degrees is top dead centre on a rotating machine. It isn't a position of nothing.

The application and meaning of zero seems flexible depending on the life situation.
It is neither nor.

No, Zero is a number, Nothing is a description.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #94 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 12:04pm

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 4:36pm:

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8702 armidale Gender:	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #95 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 12:10pm "He was the last Zero fighter pilot that we know of from the Darwin raid," said military historian Tom Lewis, who interviewed Harada in Japan last year. There were 36 zeros in Darwin , or 10x 10 ^ 35 a huge number.
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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #96 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 12:24pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 4:36pm:

Apollo ready for lift-off to Moon.
10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1...um..it's um.. what do you say..dunno
This is Houston. Sorry about this. Our experts can't get past ignition. Could you have a cup of tea or something..da da da

"*beep* Ah, Roger, Houston - we'll just take a little nip of this fine Kentucky... keep the air conditioning on **beep** maybe open the fly screen for a minute or so **beep** ....

Ground Zero to Major Tom....roger that.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #97 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 7:22pm

Zero is even.

Even and odd are words for the remainder when an integer is divided by two. Any integer that has a remainder of zero when divided by two is even. It is really not a hard concept to understand.

The mathematical silliness on display in this thread leaves me wondering how these clowns finished school.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #98 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 7:26pm

crocodile wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

Saying “nothing” means zero right?

So when someone says they started off with nothing, suggests zero is a starting point?

Not always. Depends on the reference. For instance, a temperature of Absolute Zero is -273.1459 deg C.

0 deg C is not a temperature of nothing. It is 1 deg C higher than -1 deg C
0 degrees is top dead centre on a rotating machine. It isn't a position of nothing.

The croc has something right in a sea of wrongness.

The equator isn't nothing, neither is the prime meridian, neither is the first point of Aries. All of them are zeroes in coordinate systems, none of them are nothing.

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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2990 Wombat NSW	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #99 - May 1^st, 2020 at 2:35am I can't be arsed right now to go thru the whole thread (7 pages), but has anyone pointed out the origin of the concept of zero?
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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #100 - May 1^st, 2020 at 5:54am

Back to the OP.

Is zero a number?

The continual references to zero as a position as in TDC
Or zero as and end point as in countdown,
Are totally irrelevant.

These examples are simply an easy way to denote a location
It could just as easily be done with an X or an A and still function exactly the same.

But as a stand alone number, as the OP poses.
It is not

On either side of an even number, is an odd number
On either side of an odd number, is an even number.
An even number can always be divided by 2

However, on either side of 0 is an odd number,
Yet 0 cannot be divided by 2 or for that matter multiplied, added or subtracted.

It fits none of the constraints of any number.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #101 - May 1^st, 2020 at 7:43am

Valkie wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:54am:

Back to the OP.

Is zero a number?

The continual references to zero as a position as in TDC
Or zero as and end point as in countdown,
Are totally irrelevant.

These examples are simply an easy way to denote a location
It could just as easily be done with an X or an A and still function exactly the same.

But as a stand alone number, as the OP poses.
It is not

On either side of an even number, is an odd number
On either side of an odd number, is an even number.
An even number can always be divided by 2

However, on either side of 0 is an odd number,
Yet 0 cannot be divided by 2 or for that matter multiplied, added or subtracted.

It fits none of the constraints of any number.

Rubbish. A number can be raised to a power of zero. 2^0 = 1.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8702 armidale Gender:	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #102 - May 1^st, 2020 at 10:30am Zero was crucial for Capt Cook at the end of 1769. With no zero the next day he was lost in the uncharted Pacific ocean with no time available and unable to reach Australia in 1770.
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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #104 - May 1^st, 2020 at 2:09pm

By convention , Jesus Christ was born in year 1 AD which was his year. There was no year zero and year 1 BC ended before that could start, becoming 1. However Jesus knew maths and said to forgive 70 times 7. We all miss 1 year in human records because theologians had no faith in the power of 0 but only worried about angels dancing on the head of a pin .

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