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Reply #75 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 5:29pm
 
BigP wrote on Dec 13th, 2019 at 5:31pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Dec 13th, 2019 at 12:41pm:
BigP wrote on Dec 13th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
cods wrote on Dec 11th, 2019 at 6:28am:
one of the helicopter pilots was on this morning he picked up many injured he also said he knew the spot where two deceased were....it will be a terrible job bringing back the bodies...I pray they find them all such a cruel way to die



They have recovered 6 bodies, another sounds like it may have been in a thermal pool on slow baste for a few days, they will be heading back with a couple of soup ladles to recover them ,,


Not really a subject to warrant mirth is it?



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the read is a bit confusing - pple soup not exactly appetising is it?
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Reply #76 - Dec 15th, 2019 at 5:20pm
 
Yesterday, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern called for a minute’s silence exactly one week after the eruption at 2.11pm on Monday to honour the victims.

“Wherever you are in New Zealand, or around the world, this is a moment we can stand alongside those who have lost loved ones in this extraordinary tragedy,” Ms Ardern said.

“Together we can express our sorrow for those who have died and been hurt, and our support for their grieving families and friends.”

But even as she led the mourning volcano experts at a conference in California were shaking their heads at the country allowing tourists to visit an active, privately owned volcano with the decision on whether it was safe or not left in the hands of the tour operator.

“The alert levels are sort of advisory. You can’t put the responsibility on the tour operators – they have mixed allegiances, they are a business,” volcanologist Dr Erik Klemetti from Denison University in Ohio said.

Dr Klemetti warned that taking tourists to White Island was the “perfect cocktail” for tragedy in a 2012 article entitled How Dangerous is Visiting New Zealand’s White Island?

“You are literally putting your lives in the hands of tour operators when you make the visit.

“Will it take half a dozen deaths at White Island to change the culture, or is that merely the cost of being adventurous?” he wrote in the article published in the American magazine Wired.

“By making the visits to the White Island crater seem routine, it can lull the tour operators and tourists into a false sense of security.”



Jacinta may have to accept!    whats happened is unacceptable.....the blame has to remain with the govt of the day..... Sad Sad Sad
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Reply #77 - Dec 15th, 2019 at 6:09pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 11:50am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 10:54am:
cods wrote on Dec 13th, 2019 at 5:01pm:
in my heart I know those they have repatriated to their families.....are the lucky ones........I cant even begin to contemplate what those who survived will face and what their future holds...it is just too sad for everyone...


My thoughts as well
many of them have burns to 60% - 80% of their bodies. They have many years of operations in front of them



we have come a long way in medicine   but nothing I know of will make their lives normal....what those with internal burns have to go through I cant imagine... its truly one of the worst things I have ever heard of...


I agree
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Reply #78 - Dec 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm
 
do you think the NZ govt will have the balls to say


the buck stops here..

sprint?
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Reply #79 - Dec 15th, 2019 at 7:20pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50798205

A person who was being treated in hospital after the eruption of New Zealand's White Island volcano has died, police say.

The unidentified victim died in Australia after being sent for treatment. About 20 people remain in intensive care with severe burns.

The death brings to 16 the number of confirmed deaths.

Recovery teams returned to the island on Sunday to try to locate another two remaining bodies.

Eight police search and rescue personnel were deployed for 75 minutes to an area in which at least one of the bodies was believed to be. "We have found no further bodies in that area," Deputy Police Commissioner Mike Clement told reporters.

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Police said they remained committed to retrieving the bodies and that police and military divers would continue to search the waters around White Island, also known by its Maori name of Whakaari. On Saturday, teams faced contaminated waters and poor visibility after one body was spotted in the water.
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Reply #80 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:27am
 
the trauma and rescue teams will all need counselling probably for a long time....the ripple effect from this will be never ending  I fear...it will be like being in a nightmare of huge proportions .... so many people asking... how did we miss that we were there only days or hours before...... it all has an impact.....

an UNIDENTIFIED person has just died.....

what kind of mess were they in after a week  still unidentified...

its just too cruel. Cry Cry
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Reply #81 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:46am
 
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:27am:
the trauma and rescue teams will all need counselling probably for a long time....the ripple effect from this will be never ending  I fear...it will be like being in a nightmare of huge proportions .... so many people asking... how did we miss that we were there only days or hours before...... it all has an impact.....

an UNIDENTIFIED person has just died.....

what kind of mess were they in after a week  still unidentified...

its just too cruel. Cry Cry



Hi Cods,
It is terrible but I bet that within 1 year the
tourists will be back there.
It's  a bit like Mr Everest  - even many regular
tragedies won't stop them.
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Reply #82 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:50am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:46am:
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 6:27am:
the trauma and rescue teams will all need counselling probably for a long time....the ripple effect from this will be never ending  I fear...it will be like being in a nightmare of huge proportions .... so many people asking... how did we miss that we were there only days or hours before...... it all has an impact.....

an UNIDENTIFIED person has just died.....

what kind of mess were they in after a week  still unidentified...

its just too cruel. Cry Cry



Hi Cods,
It is terrible but I bet that within 1 year the
tourists will be back there.
It's  a bit like Mr Everest  - even many regular
tragedies won't stop them.




it too is part of the ripple effect... already the small business' that rely on the island    will be in pain....

its huge bobby...........do you believe people should be able to walk on an ACTIVE volcano?.....would you take the responsibility?

the experts are saying NO...
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Reply #83 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am
 
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.
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Reply #84 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.




when you think they have a choice to wear a mask because of the fumes... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you have to wonder what makes people tick. Angry
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Reply #85 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


Quick quiz:

Q. How many people are killed by volcanoes each year in NZ?

Q. How many people are killed on the road each year in NZ?
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Reply #86 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:09am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


Quick quiz:

Q. How many people are killed by volcanoes each year in NZ?

Q. How many people are killed on the road each year in NZ?




if they were travelling on roads that were shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere........would you blame the govt for keeping said roads in commission?..  or would you think it okay for people to make that choice....because the road is there    why not use it?
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Reply #87 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:12am
 
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


Quick quiz:

Q. How many people are killed by volcanoes each year in NZ?

Q. How many people are killed on the road each year in NZ?




if they were travelling on roads that were shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere........would you blame the govt for keeping said roads in commission?..  or would you think it okay for people to make that choice....because the road is there    why not use it?


300 people a year die on NZ roads that aren't shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere.

Why aren't you and Bobby demanding that the government shut them down?

Don't you care about those 300 people?

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Reply #88 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:19am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


Quick quiz:

Q. How many people are killed by volcanoes each year in NZ?

Q. How many people are killed on the road each year in NZ?




if they were travelling on roads that were shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere........would you blame the govt for keeping said roads in commission?..  or would you think it okay for people to make that choice....because the road is there    why not use it?


300 people a year die on NZ roads that aren't shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere.

Why aren't you and Bobby demanding that the government shut them down?

Don't you care about those 300 people?





ahhhhh comprehension skills on strike I see..

because a road is a road is a road.....why have a road..if you dont want people to travel on it......

why make beds if you dont want people to die in them...

to compare road deaths with this tragedy  is appalling....just appalling... just to win a brownie point....it disgusts me to be honest....

Cry Cry

go over to monks place and compare notes on where more people die in NZ    I am sure they will eat it up.. Angry
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Reply #89 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:22am
 
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:19am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


Quick quiz:

Q. How many people are killed by volcanoes each year in NZ?

Q. How many people are killed on the road each year in NZ?




if they were travelling on roads that were shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere........would you blame the govt for keeping said roads in commission?..  or would you think it okay for people to make that choice....because the road is there    why not use it?


300 people a year die on NZ roads that aren't shaking constantly and or spitting sulphur or green water into the atmosphere.

Why aren't you and Bobby demanding that the government shut them down?

Don't you care about those 300 people?





ahhhhh comprehension skills on strike I see..

because a road is a road is a road.....why have a road..if you dont want people to travel on it......

why make beds if you dont want people to die in them...

to compare road deaths with this tragedy  is appalling....just appalling... just to win a brownie point....it disgusts me to be honest....

Cry Cry

go over to monks place and compare notes on where more people die in NZ    I am sure they will eat it up.. Angry


So, just to be clear, you don't care about those 300 people dying?

We know that 300 people will die on NZ roads next year, but you don't want the government to stop it.

You only want the government to stop people dying in volcanoes.

Why is that, dear?

Death is death - it makes no difference where it happens, you're still dead.

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