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Reply #90 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:49am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


cods baled out (as usual).

So I'll ask you.

Why don't you want tourists (and locals) kept away from New Zealand roads?

The roads are far, far more dangerous than the volcano.

300 people a year die on NZ roads - how many die in the volcano?



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Reply #91 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:59am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


cods baled out (as usual).

So I'll ask you.

Why don't you want tourists (and locals) kept away from New Zealand roads?

The roads are far, far more dangerous than the volcano.

300 people a year die on NZ roads - how many die in the volcano?




Dear Greggy,
There is a fallacy in your argument.
Road rules apply which state for instance
that you cannot exceed the speed limit.
In the same way certain volcanic areas
can be visited and others are off limits.


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Reply #92 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:03am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 10:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 7:11am:
No Cods,
tourists should be kept away forever.
It's a place for scientists only.
Even then it's too dangerous.


cods baled out (as usual).

So I'll ask you.

Why don't you want tourists (and locals) kept away from New Zealand roads?

The roads are far, far more dangerous than the volcano.

300 people a year die on NZ roads - how many die in the volcano?




Dear Greggy,
There is a fallacy in your argument.
Road rules apply which state for instance
that you cannot exceed the speed limit.
In the same way certain volcanic areas
can be visited and others are off limits.




The fallacy is all yours.

You say you want the government to stop people visiting the volcano because it's dangerous.

We all know for a fact that NZ roads are thousands of times more dangerous than the volcano, yet you aren't demanding that the government stop people from using them.

Why do you only care about deaths in a volcano?

Don't the 334 deaths on NZ roads this year matter to you?

Is it only people you see on popular news stories that you care about?

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Reply #93 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:09am
 
Rubbish Greggy -

dangerous activities need rules applied.
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Reply #94 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:15am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:09am:
Rubbish Greggy -

dangerous activities need rules applied.


You said: "tourists should be kept away forever".

Approximately 300 people are killed on NZ roads every year.

We know this for a fact.

334 already this year, and past records tell us that next year there'll be another 300 deaths.

Why aren't you saying "people should be kept away from NZ roads forever".

I'm curious.



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Reply #95 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:09am:
Rubbish Greggy -

dangerous activities need rules applied.


You said: "tourists should be kept away forever".

Approximately 300 people are killed on NZ roads every year.

We know this for a fact.

334 already this year, and past records tell us that next year there'll be another 300 deaths.

Why aren't you saying "people should be kept away from NZ roads forever".

I'm curious.






Greggy,
if you want people to stand on an active volcano
then you need to visit your doctor for a revised prescription  of your medication.

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Reply #96 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:47am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:09am:
Rubbish Greggy -

dangerous activities need rules applied.


You said: "tourists should be kept away forever".

Approximately 300 people are killed on NZ roads every year.

We know this for a fact.

334 already this year, and past records tell us that next year there'll be another 300 deaths.

Why aren't you saying "people should be kept away from NZ roads forever".

I'm curious.






Greggy,
if you want people to stand on an active volcano
then you need to visit your doctor for a revised prescription  of your medication.

forgiven
namaste



You want them to be on roads that kill 300 people a year.

NZ roads are thousands of times more dangerous than the volcano.

Why do you ignore this fact?

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Reply #97 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:54am
 
As usual pessary presents a 'Strawman' argument..........nothing new....
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Reply #98 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:58am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:47am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 11:09am:
Rubbish Greggy -

dangerous activities need rules applied.


You said: "tourists should be kept away forever".

Approximately 300 people are killed on NZ roads every year.

We know this for a fact.

334 already this year, and past records tell us that next year there'll be another 300 deaths.

Why aren't you saying "people should be kept away from NZ roads forever".

I'm curious.






Greggy,
if you want people to stand on an active volcano
then you need to visit your doctor for a revised prescription  of your medication.

forgiven
namaste



You want them to be on roads that kill 300 people a year.

NZ roads are thousands of times more dangerous than the volcano.

Why do you ignore this fact?



Deaths on road in NZ from 2015 to 2019 = 1,657

Deaths on volcanoes in NZ from 2015 to 2019 = 16

"tourists should be kept away forever".

From roads too, Bobby?

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Reply #99 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:07pm
 
Hi Greggy,
print out this page and show your doctor.

good luck
Bobby
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Reply #100 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:07pm:
Hi Greggy,
print out this page and show your doctor.

good luck
Bobby


Why do you only care about people who die in big news stories, Bobby?

Why are you perfectly happy to let hundreds of people die on the road?

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Reply #101 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:16pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:07pm:
Hi Greggy,
print out this page and show your doctor.

good luck
Bobby



yeah he is even doing the google stats  to make his argument relative.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

his comparisons are always odious ..

here he is mocking 47 people either dead missing or in fearful pain    from a possible once in a lifetime tragedy..

.....with an unbelievable comparison...


only an odious person would stoop to that level bobby...

leave him to it!
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Reply #102 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:38pm
 
Two Australian families with loved ones killed in the New Zealand volcano tragedy have issued statements as authorities release the names of more Aussies confirmed dead in the disaster.

NZ Police, shortly before midday on Monday, confirmed Australians Jessica Richards, 20, Jason Griffiths, 33, Martin Hollander, 48 and Kristine Langford, 45, have been identified and confirmed dead.

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has said the WorkSafe investigation into the “harm and loss of life” caused by the eruption may take up to a year.

“Tour operators, cruiseship happenings, emergency responders and land owners fall under this. WorkSafe can prosecute for breaches of the act and penalties in criminal sanctions range from $50,000 to $3 million and up to five years in prison,” Ms Ardern said.

“The coronial processes are also likely to continue for some time. As a cabinet, we know that it is possible there will be broader issues that won’t be covered by these inquiries.”

The PM added that the cabinet approved a $5 million fund for the impact of recent events, both in Whakatane and Westland.

“This fund will focus on small businesses who may have been adversely affected,” Ms Ardern said. “Obviously, we have criteria that has been established for past events that may have had similar effects on small businesses.”

Jason Griffiths was holidaying with a group of friends when he and couple Karla Mathews and Rick Elzer broke off from the group to visit White Island on December 9.

The PM added that the cabinet approved a $5 million fund for the impact of recent events, both in Whakatane and Westland.

“This fund will focus on small businesses who may have been adversely affected,” Ms Ardern said. “Obviously, we have criteria that has been established for past events that may have had similar effects on small businesses.”

Jason Griffiths was holidaying with a group of friends when he and couple Karla Mathews and Rick Elzer broke off from the group to visit White Island on December 9.

The eruption left Ms Mathews and Mr Elzer missing, presumed dead, while Mr Griffiths, who suffered extensive burns and head trauma, died after being evacuated to hospital.

Ms Mathews was confirmed dead on Sunday evening.

Her brother and sister, on Monday, said their sister had been one of the six bodies recovered from the island on Friday by NZ authorities.

“Our family is absolutely heartbroken and our big sister will be incredibly missed,” Kirk Mathews Boden and Nicola Mathews said in a statement.

“We have an enormous sense of relief that she has finally been found and we patiently wait with the Elzer family for news of Karla’s partner Rick so we are able to bring them home together.”

The family thanked Australian and New Zealand governments for their work following the tragedy.

“We would like to especially thank the New Zealand Police for their unwavering efforts towards reuniting all families with their lost loved ones,” they wrote.

The confirmation came alongside an image of the Coffs Harbour couple, sharply dressed and smiling for the camera.

Relatives of Ms Langford and her husband Anthony, who was confirmed dead on Sunday, issued a statement at the same time.

“Anthony and Kristine, loving parents to Jesse and Winona, were a wonderful couple and devoted to both their immediate and extended families,” the statement reads.

“They will be greatly missed by all who knew them.”

Their 17-year-old daughter, Winona, remains unaccounted for while the couples’ son, Jesse, is receiving “excellent care” and is recovering in hospital, the statement said.

The cruise liner that many of the Australian victims were travelling on at the time of the disaster, the Ovation of the Seas, pulled into Sydney’s Circular Quay just hours earlier.

Thousands of passengers alighted from the ship with many speaking of “eerie” and “sombre” scenes on board when news broke some of their fellow passengers had died ashore.

The ship’s return comes one day after NSW Health confirmed the death of another victim, a man who was repatriated to Australia for treatment but died in Sydney’s Concord Hospital on Saturday.

Meanwhile, the son of two Australians injured in the eruption says the timeline for his parents’ recovery is uncertain and they could face months in hospital.

Sydney couple Nick and Marion London, who are both in a critical condition, were flown back to Australia for treatment last week at Concord Hospital.

They have burns to 50 per cent of their bodies and internal chemical burns from breathing in toxic gases.

Family friend Colin Cool, who met Mr London while working at a radio station in 1978, described the pair as “brothers” and “treated like family”.

“I last saw Nick and Marion when we dined together in the city just over a month ago. They were looking forward to their next cruise on the Ovation of the Seas,” Mr Cool said.

“As regular cruisers, they were no stranger to this vessel. Sadly, this journey was to end tragically for them.”
Mr London and his wife – who met through university while studying physics – are at Concord Hospital where they are being treated for significant burns.

A GoFundMe page set up by family friend Tom Nieuwlandand has nearly reached more than $13,000, which will go towards the medical bills and financial support.

“Thank you everyone for your kindness and generosity so far. We have smashed the initial goal of $5000 which should alleviate some of the short term strain for the London’s but there is
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Reply #103 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 5:07pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:07pm:
Hi Greggy,
print out this page and show your doctor.

good luck
Bobby



yeah he is even doing the google stats  to make his argument relative.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

his comparisons are always odious ..

here he is mocking 47 people either dead missing or in fearful pain    from a possible once in a lifetime tragedy..

.....with an unbelievable comparison...


only an odious person would stoop to that level bobby...

leave him to it!


The only people being mocked are you and Bobby.

Why don't you care about the 300 people killed on NZ roads every year?

If they were all killed on one day, and the news footage was played for weeks afterwards, would that make you more compassionate?

I'm curious.
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Reply #104 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 5:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
cods wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2019 at 12:07pm:
Hi Greggy,
print out this page and show your doctor.

good luck
Bobby



yeah he is even doing the google stats  to make his argument relative.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

his comparisons are always odious ..

here he is mocking 47 people either dead missing or in fearful pain    from a possible once in a lifetime tragedy..

.....with an unbelievable comparison...


only an odious person would stoop to that level bobby...

leave him to it!


The only people being mocked are you and Bobby.

Why don't you care about the 300 people killed on NZ roads every year?

If they were all killed on one day, and the news footage was played for weeks afterwards, would that make you more compassionate?

I'm curious.




take your crap to films.. its much better suited there..

I think this topic should stay on topic..

its to hard for idiots like you to comprehend...



I used top think you had something relevant to say..

not any more your another bri bri all you do is REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT yourself....

sink lower if you can.....as per usual another thread buggered by the worst troll on the forum
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