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Reply #465 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:56pm
 
It is a simple question.

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Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?  You have done everything except answer that simple question.
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Reply #466 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 2:39pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 12:37pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:03am:
I'm no fan of Abbott nor am I a Catholic etc - but give it a rest...


Why....Pell covered up for paedophiles in the church and moved offenders on to other parishes where they continued to abuse children....IMO that is enough proof to condemn the ass hole and all those who support his corrupt behaviour....The fact he is in jail is a bonus and well deserved for someone who is responsible for ruining the lives of so many innocent children....Why is Abbott above criticism for his actions in supporting a convicted sex offender!!!

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None of which makes him a paedophile - he was not charged with covering up... he was charged and convicted over allegations of sexual abuse - if that were truly the case - why would it be restricted to just two boys, one of whom is now dead?  If he was a paedophile, he would surely prey on more than that.

Simply doesn't add up on the basis of one word against another...


I don't think it adds up either.

The fact is though, he's a convicted child sex offender and Abbott visited him in prison.

Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?



Why not?  Even convicts deserve to be treated as human beings, don't they?  I mean - we treat Mad Mussos pretty good ... and whining Koonies ...


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Re: Pell Court of Appeal Decision
Reply #467 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:28pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 4:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 2:39pm:
I don't think it adds up either.

The fact is though, he's a convicted child sex offender and Abbott visited him in prison.

Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?




ye gods your obsession with all thing AMERIKAN  is a bit tiresome  I have already answered that... Angry Angry

like grap I am for sticking by someone you were mates with.........just because they are charged and convicted doesnt mean you should drop them , like you obviously would... Angry...not everyone is like you...

just because he visited him doesnt mean he thinks he is innocent or guilty... if the man was in hospital he would visit him as a friend.......it seriously has nothing to do with anyone else.......like grap says   it doesnt make Tony a child molester...and neither it should...

maybe you need to open your mind a little bit   you are so hell bent on getting AMERIKANS  who do not think along the same lines as yourself......you have now become confused...




What part of this don't you understand, cods?

"Believe it not, as much as I don't like Abbott, I'm not criticising him for what he did ..."

Do you know what 'objective' means?


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Reply #468 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:40pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:56pm:
It is a simple question.

Cods.....

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Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?  You have done everything except answer that simple question.



its none of my business   what Americans do in Amerika....I am not interested in anything AMERIKAN.......if it whets your appetite  good luck with that......all I know is Tony has been friends with Pell for many years......he looks like he is a loyal friend

I do not see anything wrong with that.......

you would I presume dump on anyone you called a friend the moment they do something wrong or presumed to have done..


you sir of course have never done anything wrong have you??????/....

to be honest with you some of the things you have told us you have done in the course of your career    have astonished me..and no I havent approved of them or you..


does that tell you anything?????
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Reply #469 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:49pm
 
LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE..
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if you are so..

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Do you know what 'objective' means?



why the questioning on clinton... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


thats not my idea of being objective..


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undistorted by emotion or personal bias


not in your case I presume?   Roll Eyes

to actually bring  your fetish with all things  AMERIKAN    into this thread is bizarre. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I guess you cant help yourself anymore than aussie can.
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Reply #470 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 8:28pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:40pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:56pm:
It is a simple question.

Cods.....

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Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?  You have done everything except answer that simple question.



its none of my business   what Americans do in Amerika....I am not interested in anything AMERIKAN.......if it whets your appetite  good luck with that......all I know is Tony has been friends with Pell for many years......he looks like he is a loyal friend

I do not see anything wrong with that.......



Hypothetical:

Let's say that Bill Shorten is good friends with that guy from Hey Dad convicted of child sex offences, and he goes to visit him in prison.

Do you see anything wrong with that?
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Reply #471 - Dec 6th, 2019 at 12:41pm
 
Haven't seen any photos of Abbott fighting the fires.  Used to see that sort of photo in the news quite regularly a few years ago.  Who knows, maybe he has been

A few years ago I read somewhere that Alan Jones shock-jock had long been in contact with Anita Cobby's killers.  True or not, who can say.  But when I read it, I wondered what Jones and the killers could have in common to support a long term communication.  Not a good look, was my opinion at the time

As regards Abbott and Pell, once again, who knows.  Wouldn't sit well with many if Pell succeeds in scuttling out of prison

Some might say from Abbott's perspective, who cares how it looks.  We're keeping him in comfort and will be for decades, so not as if he need care what people might draw from his odd loyalty to Pell.  Not as if Abbott's going to re-enter politics.  Or -- maybe he will, who knows

In Abbott's shoes, I think my concern would lie with the victims … all those now-adult kids who've never told, never come forward for whatever of dozens of reasons.  If I were swinging around with loads of time/money and still some influence, I might, in Abbott's case, devote some of that largesse to survivors and just as importantly, to potential victims

but instead, Abbott chooses to visit Pell who still has a hope or two of release (and SO many who're intent he should be released).  And a letter or two to Pell of support obviously was considered by Abbott to be insufficient to convey whatever it is he feels with regard to Pell.  And just as obviously, Abbott doesn't give a rats how it might look.  Or perhaps he hoped that public knowledge of his visit (plural ?) to Pell might influence some people to follow his lead or at least take note that a former Prime Minister thinks highly enough of Pell that only a personal visit (plural?) could adequately express the esteem in which he holds Pell? 

I've never seen how Abbott's visit/s to Pell became public knowledge.  Did Abbott tip off the media himself or via a reputable source, for example?

Would Abbott have visited Pell if Abbott were still actively in politics?  I doubt it, in fact I doubt it very much.  Or, should add, Abbott -- if still active in politics -- may well have still chosen to visit Pell, but the visit/s would have been shrouded in secrecy, imo.  It would have been very much considered to be 'not a good look' then.  That being my belief, I regard Abbott as a slug for his purported loyalty to Pell at this stage of the game
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Reply #472 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:49pm
 
Does not look good for the Crown so far.  The Pell decisions so far have been wrong.  I reckon the High Court is going to correct the errors and Pell will walk.
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Reply #473 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 4:09pm
 
As in the 1998 election, Perhaps Abbott is seeking to confess to Pell?  Wink
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Reply #474 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 7:18pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Does not look good for the Crown so far.  The Pell decisions so far have been wrong.  I reckon the High Court is going to correct the errors and Pell will walk.



But would you bet $5 on it?
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Reply #475 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 7:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 7:18pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Does not look good for the Crown so far.  The Pell decisions so far have been wrong.  I reckon the High Court is going to correct the errors and Pell will walk.



But would you bet $5 on it?


I don't bet on shcit I have no control over.  Give me sonme odds and I might.
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Reply #476 - Mar 13th, 2020 at 12:31am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 7:18pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Does not look good for the Crown so far.  The Pell decisions so far have been wrong.  I reckon the High Court is going to correct the errors and Pell will walk.



But would you bet $5 on it?


I don't think what we've heard of the evidence stacks up to proof positive of kiddie-fiddling - covering up the actions of others is another matter and should be addressed by both the church and courts.

Aiding and Abetting a Paedophile in the Perpetration of An Offence Against Those in Safe Custody and In a Position of Relative Powerlessness.... Paedofokkers Act 2020, Section 101...
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Reply #477 - Mar 13th, 2020 at 7:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 8:28pm:
cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 6:40pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 5:56pm:
It is a simple question.

Cods.....

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Would you, and cods, be okay with Bill Clinton visiting Epstein or Cosby in prison?  You have done everything except answer that simple question.



its none of my business   what Americans do in Amerika....I am not interested in anything AMERIKAN.......if it whets your appetite  good luck with that......all I know is Tony has been friends with Pell for many years......he looks like he is a loyal friend

I do not see anything wrong with that.......



Hypothetical:

Let's say that Bill Shorten is good friends with that guy from Hey Dad convicted of child sex offences, and he goes to visit him in prison.

Do you see anything wrong with that?




not if he was his friend for 20 years or more.....

you see I am not a fair weather friend either......

dont tell me people like Rolf Harris never had a visitor in jail.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


why persecute someone for being a friend to someone when they need one. Sad Sad Sad

being a friend doesnt mean you condone anything...


so bloody UN Australian imo


the trial imo was flawed....even I could have shot holes in it..I trust the High Court will deal with this in a fair and just manner....
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Reply #478 - Mar 13th, 2020 at 7:49am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Does not look good for the Crown so far.  The Pell decisions so far have been wrong.  I reckon the High Court is going to correct the errors and Pell will walk.


Why do you say that?

Just wondering!


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