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Question: Is Pell guilty?
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Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:44pm
 
Due next Wednesday.

So, now is the time for all you sooth sayers to have a go....before, not after the event.

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My view is:

Appeal upheld.  Conviction quashed.  No re-trial.  No Appeal to the High Court.
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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:26pm
 
So you are a soothsayer?
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:28pm
 
Yep Aussie may be right !

The correct hand shake would have been given to the appeal judges!  Wink

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If a man says he will fix it.   

He will !

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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:30pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:28pm:
Yep Aussie may be right !

The correct hand shake would have been given to the appeal judges!  Wink




Pell will receive divine intervention via the Pope.

Pell will walk free and spend his last years in luxury at the Vatican.
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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 3:48pm
 

I predict that if Aussie is right, many forum members here will not accept the decision.

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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm
 
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.
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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:08pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.


Are you off your game? You need a Haji Gordon University of Love refresher course.
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.


Fine, just don't later be Monday's expert......or in this case Thursday's expert.
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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:00pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:44pm:
Due next Wednesday.

So, now is the time for all you sooth sayers to have a go....before, not after the event.

Link.

My view is:

Appeal upheld.  Conviction quashed.  No re-trial.  No Appeal to the High Court.


That's a very high bar there Aussie.

Raven disagrees, the best Pell can hope for is a retrial. Raven finds it highly unlikely the Appeal Court will render the jury's verdict unsafe. To do that the Judges would have to be convinced the jury entertained reasonable doubt and convicted him anyway.
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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:08pm
 
Raven wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 2:44pm:
Due next Wednesday.

So, now is the time for all you sooth sayers to have a go....before, not after the event.

Link.

My view is:

Appeal upheld.  Conviction quashed.  No re-trial.  No Appeal to the High Court.


That's a very high bar there Aussie.

Raven disagrees, the best Pell can hope for is a retrial. Raven finds it highly unlikely the Appeal Court will render the jury's verdict unsafe. To do that the Judges would have to be convinced the jury entertained reasonable doubt and convicted him anyway.



No.  It is not argued that the decision was perverse.  It is argued that, given the evidence, the Jury could not reasonably have come to a verdict of guilty.

I do agree it is a high bar, but the state of the evidence is correspondingly at a very low bar.  Also........in support of your caution, I acknowledge that if I am right, it is a kick in the arse for the Trial Judge.  That is because the Appeal Court is saying....'You should never have allowed this to go to a Jury.  It should have been a directed verdict.'
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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs..yuk.

A racist bigot said "implying brown is not as bad as black."  Link
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:38pm
 
I never thought he would be convicted....The jury believed the victims over Pell so go figure....The bloke is finished even if he is released on a technicality???

Huh Huh Huh

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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:44pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.


Fine, just don't later be Monday's expert......or in this case Thursday's expert.


Why do you think I would? I'm happy for the courts to decide on verdicts, I don't have the info they have although I find it hard to believe he didn't know what was going on with the info I do have.
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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 7:08pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.


Fine, just don't later be Monday's expert......or in this case Thursday's expert.


Why do you think I would? I'm happy for the courts to decide on verdicts, I don't have the info they have although I find it hard to believe he didn't know what was going on with the info I do have.


Makes no sense.
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And Indian women aren't exactly LBFMs..yuk.

A racist bigot said "implying brown is not as bad as black."  Link
 
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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 7:34pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 5:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
I predict I'll just let the courts handle it.


Fine, just don't later be Monday's expert......or in this case Thursday's expert.


Why do you think I would? I'm happy for the courts to decide on verdicts, I don't have the info they have although I find it hard to believe he didn't know what was going on with the info I do have.


Makes no sense.


Why?
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2019 at 7:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
Makes no sense.



makes sense to me
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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