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Reply #45 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm

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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #46 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:58pm

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Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

If only islam would leave the 7th century, there would not be the travel restrictions we have in place today 2019

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What Female Travelers Should Wear in Muslim Countries
BY KATHLEEN CRISLIP

Updated 03/04/19
This the word from travel experts around the world, who offer wise advice pointing out things that are frowned upon, if not downright forbidden.

Many female travelers recommend covering your hair in Islamic countries to avoid getting unwanted attention from men.

Islamic codes of behavior and dress are strictly enforced. In a public place, women must cover their heads with a headscarf, wear a long skirt or loose trousers, and a long-sleeved tunic or coat that reaches to the knee.

If you only pack one extra item, make sure it's a scarf for covering your head or shoulders as the need arises.

The black garbage bag and letter box is very common in public places.

Imagine the avalanche of rapes and honour killings if muzzie women were to think for themselves on the whole.

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #47 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

You been to all those places Brian?

I have been to Indonesia, Malaysia, India and one of the Central Asian Republics - Kyrgyzstan. I have read extensively about the others. You ever left your Mum's Basement? Roll Eyes

Once more for the slow learner, I don’t rely on unprovable self serving anecdotes. You are convinced they prove something, they prove nothing, strip anecdote for your “argument” you have nothing.

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #48 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #49 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:35pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

You been to all those places Brian?

I have been to Indonesia, Malaysia, India and one of the Central Asian Republics - Kyrgyzstan. I have read extensively about the others. You ever left your Mum's Basement? Roll Eyes

Once more for the slow learner, I don’t rely on unprovable self serving anecdotes. You are convinced they prove something, they prove nothing, strip anecdote for your “argument” you have nothing.

Yeah, yeah, sure, Secret, sure. You believe what ever Islamophobic fantasy you want, OK? Just don't post it here. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #50 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #51 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:45pm

moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:58pm:

Mr Hammer wrote: Quote:

Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

If only islam would leave the 7th century, there would not be the travel restrictions we have in place today 2019

tripsavvy tell us

What Female Travelers Should Wear in Muslim Countries
BY KATHLEEN CRISLIP

Updated 03/04/19
This the word from travel experts around the world, who offer wise advice pointing out things that are frowned upon, if not downright forbidden.

Many female travelers recommend covering your hair in Islamic countries to avoid getting unwanted attention from men.

Islamic codes of behavior and dress are strictly enforced. In a public place, women must cover their heads with a headscarf, wear a long skirt or loose trousers, and a long-sleeved tunic or coat that reaches to the knee.

If you only pack one extra item, make sure it's a scarf for covering your head or shoulders as the need arises.

The black garbage bag and letter box is very common in public places.

Imagine the avalanche of rapes and honour killings if muzzie women were to think for themselves on the whole.

Poor, poor, Moses. What a shame that article refers to primarily Arabic Muslim countries. In SE Asia, they are much more relaxed about such matters. It is also a shame you don't quote the entire article. All they talk about is modest dress - loose clothing that covers their arms, legs and hair (as well as their bodies). The hair, primarily in Mosques. Funny how such details tend to undermine your entire idea that all Muslim women wear the Niqab. Tsk, tsk. Islamophobia running wild yet again, hey, Moses? Roll Eyes

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #52 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:51pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

Never ever met a modern, progressive, Muslim woman, have you, Hammer? You ever met any women other than your Mum? How about this Muslim woman?

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #53 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

Never ever met a modern, progressive, Muslim woman, have you, Hammer? You ever met any women other than your Mum? How about this Muslim woman?

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Reply #54 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 5:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

Never ever met a modern, progressive, Muslim woman, have you, Hammer? You ever met any women other than your Mum? How about this Muslim woman?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/803/79gHgv.jpg

I take it then that you know her identity, Hammer? What is her opinion on traditional religious Muslim dress for women, Mmmm?

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Reply #55 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 6:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

Never ever met a modern, progressive, Muslim woman, have you, Hammer? You ever met any women other than your Mum? How about this Muslim woman?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/803/79gHgv.jpg

I take it then that you know her identity, Hammer? What is her opinion on traditional religious Muslim dress for women, Mmmm?

She is the tiny minority, Bwian. They would probably stone her in most Muslim countries. Eros - sounds like a Greek name, what?

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation yesterday named a Muslim woman as its newest candidate for the upcoming New South Wales election.

Emma Eros, a mother-of-two and businesswoman was recruited by state leader Mark Latham to run as candidate for the seat of Hornsby. Mr Latham last week announced his state platform of “banning the burqa” in airports, banks and other government buildings.

Ms Eros, who runs a plumbing and construction business in Sydney and was raised in western Sydney by Lebanese parents, holds strong views about the burqa and niqab. She has said she backs Mr Latham’s views that the religious garments need restrictions.

“I am a believer that one needs to show their face,” Ms Eros said. “Any government building, anything like that, that’s relevant to identification then yeah, bloody hell, remove it.

People are abusing that freedom of religion that we have in this democratic country,”

she told the Daily Mail.

She went on to describe commonly cited religious reasons for wearing the garments as “lame excuses”, “bulls**t”.

“They’ve said to me, ‘I don’t have to do my hair’, Well, you’re completely lazy.

“Some have said, ‘It brings me closer to God.’ Well, I’m sorry, God is everywhere.
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Ms Eros has been outspoken about her beliefs about traditional Islamic dress in the past, and says her views have resulted in her receiving death threats and people telling her to “hang herself”.
“I just don’t think it’s necessary to abuse the freedom of religion when it’s not a religious obligation to cover your face,” she said. Ms Eros also said Islamic women who make the pilgrimage to attend Hajj in Mecca were required to show their face. “If the birthplace of Islam is not demanding a full face covering by wearing the burqa then why should it be expected or demanded to be worn here?”

Ms Eros clarified she doesn’t mind if Islamic women wear burqas or similar items in private, but backs the ban in public buildings. “I don’t care if they wear it in their home. I don’t care if they’re wearing it going to their family’s house, driving somewhere,” Ms Eros said.

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #56 - Jul 29^th, 2019 at 6:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 5:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Four of those photos are indoors. Muslim women don't have to wear head coverings indoors.

Traditional Muslim women perhaps. Modern progressive Muslim women don't follow the old rules, Hammer. Ever been to Indonesia, Malaya, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the central Asian Republics? No, I wouldn't expect so, you've never left your Mum's basement, have you? Roll Eyes

An overwhelming majority of Muslim women in the world wear one form or another head covering when it public Brian. Many countries 99.9% do. Don't make stuff up your jet fuel sniffing old fart.

So, you've never been to any of those countries then, Hammer? How unsurprising. Go out in Jakarta or KL or any of the other big cities and you'd be quite surprised at how little the women wear. However, you'll never leave your Mum's basement, will you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Believe what you want Gomer. I never said some Islamic women don't wear head covering. I'm saying an overwhemling majority do. Try to keep up.

Never ever met a modern, progressive, Muslim woman, have you, Hammer? You ever met any women other than your Mum? How about this Muslim woman?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/803/79gHgv.jpg

I take it then that you know her identity, Hammer? What is her opinion on traditional religious Muslim dress for women, Mmmm?

She is the tiny minority, Bwian. They would probably stone her in most Muslim countries. Eros - sounds like a Greek name, what?

Minority or not, she represents what modern Muslim women think, Soren. Time you stopped crossing the street whenever you see a Muslim and actually talk to them for a change. Remember, no insults though! Roll Eyes

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Re: Bendigo mosque construction begins
Reply #57 - Jul 31^st, 2019 at 1:08pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 1:16am:

The locals want the Muslims to go back to western Sydney.

Actually, the locals want religious tolerance. They want their declining population topped up to keep services in place. The Mayor, the council and the host of locals polled, a number of whom spoke frankly on the 7.30 Report.

WE WANT THEM HERE.

It's the outsiders and virtue-signallers from the city doing all the complaining.

You?

Globalisation, innit.

Yes its all about religious tolerance isn't it, funny how its always Islam and their apologists who need to keep SHOUTING for tolerance.

Channel 2 can be very selective, you?

The Bendigo mayor's view was not selective, Matty. His point about religious tolerance comes from the Australian constitution.

His point about cultural diversity was shared by the locals interviewed. His view on race wasn't mentioned, dear.

So if it's not about religious tolerance, and it's not about cultural diversity, and it's not even about locals deciding who lives in their community, what is it about?

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Reply #58 - Jul 31^st, 2019 at 1:27pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 31^st, 2019 at 1:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 28^th, 2019 at 1:16am:

The locals want the Muslims to go back to western Sydney.

Actually, the locals want religious tolerance. They want their declining population topped up to keep services in place. The Mayor, the council and the host of locals polled, a number of whom spoke frankly on the 7.30 Report.

WE WANT THEM HERE.

It's the outsiders and virtue-signallers from the city doing all the complaining.

You?

Globalisation, innit.

Yes its all about religious tolerance isn't it, funny how its always Islam and their apologists who need to keep SHOUTING for tolerance.

Channel 2 can be very selective, you?

The Bendigo mayor's view was not selective, Matty. His point about religious tolerance comes from the Australian constitution.

His point about cultural diversity was shared by the locals interviewed. His view on race wasn't mentioned, dear.

So if it's not about religious tolerance, and it's not about cultural diversity, and it's not even about locals deciding who lives in their community, what is it about?

Why is it always the Muslims and their apologists who are screaming for religious tolerance, everybody else seems ok,
perhaps its their culture which some find a bit on the nose these days.

Did channel 2 ask any of these guys?

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Reply #59 - Aug 1^st, 2019 at 7:38pm

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