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Reply #15 - May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2
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Reply #16 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink
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Reply #17 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:20am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:31am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:17am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:17am:
Construction Deaths in Australia
11 in 2018
7 so far in 2019

You people have no idea how few deaths there are in Australia now...… Literally ive been on jobs with millions of work hours and no injuries little on Deaths...…


Last year as you can see there was less than 1 death australia wide per month...... These safety rules work and work very well, it's usually small companies that don't follow the safety rules that are the problem. Wink



why is it automatically the companies fault??..

have you seen the latest ads on TV about safety?

thats right it begins with YOU..or ME as the case may be...I think there should be more emphasis on looking out for yourself.....

maybe I am the only one who notices   when I was a kid we stood at the kerb and looked bothways before stepping on the road.....

now they just step out head down reading their phone  not a look not a heads up......they all expect someone else to be watching over them....

how often are you blinded bu the sun... and some clown steps out without so much as a glance?... Angry Angry Angry

it needs to be stopped all round....

I am so sorry for this youngs mans death....but we are stooopid as hell if we think a bunch of rules will prevent someones death on a working site.. Sad Sad Sad


That's where you are wrong ,lots of rules are the only thing that can stop deaths.... I did a expansion of a power station a few years ago the original station built in the early 80's had 10 deaths and they where happy because the insured for 12 deaths, a win win situation in the 80's.
The new station was 2/3 the size of the original and with all the rules and laws like if a worker dies the boss can go to jail etc, there where no deaths and one broken leg.
That is just one job ad not really that big,.
Yes keeping safe and doing all the rules is annoying, but in the last 10 years I've never been forced to do something where i thought i could get hurt.
In my early days when it was no do, no job I feel very blessed i never got really hurt or killed. Wink




a young man died on a construction site a few weeks back he was new just 18,,.. he died when a scaffolding fell   

I ask what was a 18yr old with no experience  doing on a scaffolding 3 stories high?..... he wasnt alone...

do you speed in your car ddh?.... I bet you do.......yet there laws saying DO NOT SPEED....it  can KILL..


we break rules every day.....most of us get away with doing that... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes... but not all!
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Reply #18 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:21am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink



so you want a camera or a copper on every corner?????????...

not sure that will win votes...
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Reply #19 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:50am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:20am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:31am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:17am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:17am:
Construction Deaths in Australia
11 in 2018
7 so far in 2019

You people have no idea how few deaths there are in Australia now...… Literally ive been on jobs with millions of work hours and no injuries little on Deaths...…


Last year as you can see there was less than 1 death australia wide per month...... These safety rules work and work very well, it's usually small companies that don't follow the safety rules that are the problem. Wink



why is it automatically the companies fault??..

have you seen the latest ads on TV about safety?

thats right it begins with YOU..or ME as the case may be...I think there should be more emphasis on looking out for yourself.....

maybe I am the only one who notices   when I was a kid we stood at the kerb and looked bothways before stepping on the road.....

now they just step out head down reading their phone  not a look not a heads up......they all expect someone else to be watching over them....

how often are you blinded bu the sun... and some clown steps out without so much as a glance?... Angry Angry Angry

it needs to be stopped all round....

I am so sorry for this youngs mans death....but we are stooopid as hell if we think a bunch of rules will prevent someones death on a working site.. Sad Sad Sad


That's where you are wrong ,lots of rules are the only thing that can stop deaths.... I did a expansion of a power station a few years ago the original station built in the early 80's had 10 deaths and they where happy because the insured for 12 deaths, a win win situation in the 80's.
The new station was 2/3 the size of the original and with all the rules and laws like if a worker dies the boss can go to jail etc, there where no deaths and one broken leg.
That is just one job ad not really that big,.
Yes keeping safe and doing all the rules is annoying, but in the last 10 years I've never been forced to do something where i thought i could get hurt.
In my early days when it was no do, no job I feel very blessed i never got really hurt or killed. Wink




a young man died on a construction site a few weeks back he was new just 18,,.. he died when a scaffolding fell   

I ask what was a 18yr old with no experience  doing on a scaffolding 3 stories high?..... he wasnt alone...

do you speed in your car ddh?.... I bet you do.......yet there laws saying DO NOT SPEED....it  can KILL..


we break rules every day.....most of us get away with doing that... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes... but not all!

Yes and that will be a question to his supervisor and the site supervisors and their employers, and now ,unlike the 80's the supervisors and the Employers can goto jail if they did wrong.
I don't think the mans age has much to do with it, a 18 year old can fall off failing scaffolding as well as a 40 year old.
Also after that accident the site would be closed down until WHS decided it was safe again, more than likely every job from the company that the man was working for would also be closed down not just that site.
In the 80's it would of been back to work the next day like nothing has happened.


well actually I'm very careful of my speed Cods and usually drive about 10km's under the limit, I'm in no hurry. I find the cruise control is a godsend for keeping to the limit, by your words I take it you don't keep to the limits ?

As you say people do unsafe things every day and none of them are thinking that doing so might cause injury or death to them or others.... It doesn't stop deaths and injuries occurring though. Wink
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Reply #20 - May 1st, 2019 at 8:54am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:21am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink



so you want a camera or a copper on every corner?????????...

not sure that will win votes...

they don't need that Cods, if they started Jailing people or took their licences away from them if they cause a accident just because they are impatient and drive to close , instead of just a monetary fine I think that could help stop this problem. Wink
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Reply #21 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:19am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:54am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:21am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink



so you want a camera or a copper on every corner?????????...

not sure that will win votes...

they don't need that Cods, if they started Jailing people or took their licences away from them if they cause a accident just because they are impatient and drive to close , instead of just a monetary fine I think that could help stop this problem. Wink




how can you jail people for having an accident??????...DELIBERATE YES   I agree we need to up our sentencing   but an accident... NO WAY>
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Reply #22 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:24am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:19am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:54am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:21am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink



so you want a camera or a copper on every corner?????????...

not sure that will win votes...

they don't need that Cods, if they started Jailing people or took their licences away from them if they cause a accident just because they are impatient and drive to close , instead of just a monetary fine I think that could help stop this problem. Wink




how can you jail people for having an accident??????...DELIBERATE YES   I agree we need to up our sentencing   but an accident... NO WAY>


Happens all the time.


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Reply #23 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:28am
 
a young women died yesterday in a horrific accident  she was in fact being filmed as she drove all over the place...

will anyone be jailed for that???>...

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Reply #24 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:33am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:28am:
a young women died yesterday in a horrific accident  she was in fact being filmed as she drove all over the place...

will anyone be jailed for that???>...


no but she did pay with here life for doing that. If others like her where jailed or have their licence suspending then will there be less deaths Cods ? Wink
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Reply #25 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:33am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:28am:
a young women died yesterday in a horrific accident  she was in fact being filmed as she drove all over the place...

will anyone be jailed for that???>...



Hard to say at this stage.

If she was at fault, no (you can't send dead people to jail).

If the other driver was at fault, and/or drunk, then there's a real possibility, yes.

As I said - it happens all the time.
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Reply #26 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:36am
 
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:19am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:54am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:21am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:58am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:47am:
https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/statistics-and-research/statistics/fataliti...

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/collection/work-related-traumatic-injury-fa...
Two previous studies on work-related traumatic fatalities in Australia have been undertaken. The first covered the three-year period 1982–19841 and the second covered a four-year period from 1989–19922. Both were based on coronial records. The first study recorded deaths of 581, 491 and 470 for the calendar years 1982 to 1984 respectively. The second study recorded deaths of 673, 590, 528 and 507 for the calendar years 1989 to 1992 respectively

332 persons who died in Australia during 2003–04

In 2018, the preliminary data show there were 157 Australian workers killed at work, compared with 190 workers in 2017.

as you can see since 1982 (581) to 2018 (157)  the deaths from working have dropped dramatically,
considering there was 15 million people in Australia in 1982 and 25 million now that makes the drop even more impressive, sorry to say Cods but that was only possible through legislation and making employers responsible for their work force. Wink



man, you are probably safer at work then at home . how many guys do i know who have rolled their ride on mower on a sunday morning and died.
i can personally name 2

yup and 1200 vehicle deaths last year. Forget fines, I think if someone does something unsafe there should be jail time or loss of licence, just tailgating and driving to close is responsible for a third of all accidents in Australia.... that is crazy. Wink



so you want a camera or a copper on every corner?????????...

not sure that will win votes...

they don't need that Cods, if they started Jailing people or took their licences away from them if they cause a accident just because they are impatient and drive to close , instead of just a monetary fine I think that could help stop this problem. Wink




how can you jail people for having an accident??????...DELIBERATE YES   I agree we need to up our sentencing   but an accident... NO WAY>

ell I didn't say that , I said if they cause a accident because they are impatient or drive to close.
SO if someone causes a accident because they are driving against the law in a unsafe manned they shouldn't be penalized ?
if someone is Tailgating is that Deliberate ?Wink
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Reply #27 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:39am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:33am:
cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:28am:
a young women died yesterday in a horrific accident  she was in fact being filmed as she drove all over the place...

will anyone be jailed for that???>...



Hard to say at this stage.

If she was at fault, no (you can't send dead people to jail).

If the other driver was at fault, and/or drunk, then there's a real possibility, yes.

As I said - it happens all the time.

yup and 1200 deaths a year because of it..... that's over 3 deaths a day and most of them are from Breaking the laws.
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Reply #28 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:41am
 
PZ547 wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
Not to take away from the OP, but it would be of interest to most, imo, to learn about the conditions faced by workers during the construction of the Sydney Harbour Bridge

primitive technology by today's standards

hundreds employed

range of extremely hazardous conditions

yet only a handful died

Men in their 60s atop the structure, in heavy woollen clothing, belts of rope and with pipes clenched firmly between their teeth

no safety harnesses

atrocious weather conditions quite often

under time and other pressures

fascinating to see the photos and read about the tasks they had to complete.  Hundreds of thousands of rivets forged up on the bridge in the open air.  Passed hand to hand using basic tools, then hammered into position using brute strength while balancing hundreds of feet in the air

then the climb down and the trudge home to a piece of mutton and a few boiled potatoes






So the relevance of your post re: the atrocious  safety standards in the 20's & 30's and beyond is?

That 16 men died in it's 9 year construction is still bad enough even though articles say ...."it was only 16".

Is your statement to say that it's acceptable people are killed at work when it's preventable?

That people should get over it? what?
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Reply #29 - May 1st, 2019 at 9:42am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:09pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Yes. For all the WH&S and other Legislations. There seem to be more 'Deaths' in the workplace (Construction is the highest) these days than back in the day when jobs were far more dangerous.

Something is wrong here and not adding up.
What have we missed?




We just need to make sure that immigration growth rate is higher than the workplace death rate.


Naff off you idiot.
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