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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55130 Gender:	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #120 - Feb 17^th, 2019 at 10:37pm barryfromthebush wrote on Feb 17^th, 2019 at 8:03pm: Lets give it to Brian, at least he can come up with thoughtful arguments (even if I dont always agree) to push his point rather than some of the drivel pushed by others who shall not be named. So you are a Sock
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Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran
Reply #121 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 3:52pm

Reality is:

People who commit deeds of iniquity are disobeying the teachings of Christ.

Conversely:

muslims who are committing unspeakable acts of depravity against their fellow man are obeying the teachings of muhammad.

These islamic purveyors of evil are most certainly not ignoring the 64% of the qur'an which advises depraved behaviour against the kufir

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Reply #122 - Feb 18^th, 2019 at 4:03pm

Reality is:

People who commit deeds of iniquity are not disobeying the teachings of Christianity.

They are obeying the teachings contained in their holy book The Bible.

Conversely:

Muslims who are committing unspeakable acts of depravity against their fellow man are not obeying the teachings of Muhammad.

These Islamic purveyors of divinity are most certainly not ignoring the the qur'an which advises correct behaviour against the kufir.

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Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran
Reply #123 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:49am

[tr][/tr]freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2019 at 10:09pm:

Who were you arguing should be able to ignore, bypass or rationalise the Quran into something compatible with civilised society?

Thank you for providing the full quote. As you can see in that (entire) sentence, I prefaced my statement with a hypothetical that I clearly reject - ie the idea that there are Quranic passages that "make slaughtering innocents a compulsory act of faith".

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52178 At my desk.	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #124 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 12:12pm Who were you arguing should be able to ignore, bypass or rationalise the Quran into something compatible with civilised society?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #125 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 12:56pm anyone who insists the quran makes slaughtering innocents a compulsory act of faith - a notion that I find absurd and reject.
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Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran
Reply #126 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 3:38pm

Reality is:

Australian National Security

The current National Terrorism Threat Level is PROBABLE and the public should continue to exercise caution.

Listed terrorist organisations

Currently, 26 organisations are listed as terrorist organisations under the Criminal Code. They are:

•Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

•Al-Murabitun

•Al-Qa'ida (AQ)

•Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

•Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)

•Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)

•Al-Shabaab

•Boko Haram

•Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades

•Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)

•Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan

•Islamic State

•Islamic State East Asia

•Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)

•Islamic State Khorasan Province

•Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)

•Jabhat al-Nusra

•Jaish-e-Mohammad

•Jama’at Mujahideen Bangladesh

•Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)

•Jemaah Anshorut DaulahListed 9 June 2018

•Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)

•Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

•Lashkar-e Jhangvi

•Lashkar-e-Tayyiba

•Palestinian Islamic Jihad

NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400

Just thought I'd include the hotline number in case any leftard apologists for islamic terror have some info about all them dastardly terrorists that aren't muslims.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52178 At my desk.	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #127 - Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:44pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 12:56pm: anyone who insists the quran makes slaughtering innocents a compulsory act of faith - a notion that I find absurd and reject. So people you disagree with, Muslim or non-Muslim, should have no reason why they cannot simply ignore parts of the Quran?
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Reply #128 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 4:43pm

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 9:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

anyone who insists the quran makes slaughtering innocents a compulsory act of faith - a notion that I find absurd and reject.

So people you disagree with, Muslim or non-Muslim, should have no reason why they cannot simply ignore parts of the Quran?

Yes FD, people who hold a position that I find absurd and reject - are by definition people I disagree with

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52178 At my desk.	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #129 - Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:24pm Why would you expect Muslims you disagree with to be able to ignore bits of the Quran so easily, but not Muslims you agree with?
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Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran
Reply #130 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 7:00am

freediver wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

Why would you expect Muslims you disagree with to be able to ignore bits of the Quran so easily, but not Muslims you agree with?

Because I don't know how else they could rationalise and agree with something I find so absurd and rejectionable. Whereas people I agree with on matters of Islamic faith already adopt the same approach to the Quran as I do (ie don't ignore bits) - otherwise I wouldn't agree with them.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #131 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:37pm

Poor, poor, Moses. You know why he relies on the Australia list of proscribed organisations, rather than the world-wide list? Because the Australian Government doesn't like to list European/Central-Southern American and Asian Terrorist organisations, unless they are Muslim based.

According to Wikipedia, there are 204 Terrorist organisations presently active and proscribed by one government or another 'round the world. Of those 204, 57 are European/Central-Southern American or Asian based Terrorist organisations, which Moses of cause never mentions, funny that, hey?

All Tripura Tiger Force
Balochistan Liberation Army
Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist)
Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army
Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist
Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei
Continuity Irish Republican Army
Cumann na mBan
Donetsk People's Republic
Fianna Éireann
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Grey Wolves
International Sikh Youth Federation
Irish National Liberation Army
Irish People's Liberation Organisation
Irish Republican Army
Kach and Kahane Chai
Kangleipak Communist Party
Komala
Korean People's Army
Kurdistan Communities Union
Kurdistan Democratic Party/North
Kurdistan Freedom Hawks
Kurdistan Workers' Party
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam
Lugansk People's Republic
Manipur People’s Liberation Front
Maoist Communist Centre of India
Marxist–Leninist Communist Party
National Action
National Democratic Front of Bodoland
National Liberation Army
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Orange Volunteers
Party of Free Life of Kurdistan
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People's Liberation Army of Manipur
People's Mujahedin of Iran
People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak
Provisional Irish Republican Army
Real Irish Republican Army
Red Hand Commando
Red Hand Defenders
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Revolutionary Party of Kurdistan
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party–Front
Revolutionary Struggle
Saor Éire
Shining Path[127]
Ulster Defence Association
Ulster Volunteer Force
United Liberation Front of Assam
United National Liberation Front
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia
Workers' Party of Korea
World Tamil Movement

Wikipedia goes on and lists another 20 Terrorist organisations that have either faded away or transformed themselves into political parties and/or governments.

African National Congress
Aum Shinrikyo
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council
Japanese Red Army
Kach and Kahane Chai
Khmer Rouge
Ku Klux Klan
Manuel Rodríguez Patriotic Front
Red Brigades
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Revolutionary Nuclei
Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement
Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia

Again, groups that Moses doesn't mention. Again, an amazing coincidence. Funny that, hey?

However, rather typical of the forum's arch-Islamophobe. Roll Eyes

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Muslims who advise ignoring the Quran Reply #132 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:56pm Are you saying that our NATIONAL SECURITY ORGANIZATION has got it all wrong regarding who constitutes the actual threat to Australias' security? Please phone NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400 and inform them of their mistake.
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Reply #133 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 3:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

Why would you expect Muslims you disagree with to be able to ignore bits of the Quran so easily, but not Muslims you agree with?

Because I don't know how else they could rationalise and agree with something I find so absurd and rejectionable. Whereas people I agree with on matters of Islamic faith already adopt the same approach to the Quran as I do (ie don't ignore bits) - otherwise I wouldn't agree with them.

So yours is the only possible conclusion someone could reach if they actually read the Quran?

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Reply #134 - Feb 21^st, 2019 at 3:46pm

freediver wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 3:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Feb 20^th, 2019 at 9:24pm:

Why would you expect Muslims you disagree with to be able to ignore bits of the Quran so easily, but not Muslims you agree with?

Because I don't know how else they could rationalise and agree with something I find so absurd and rejectionable. Whereas people I agree with on matters of Islamic faith already adopt the same approach to the Quran as I do (ie don't ignore bits) - otherwise I wouldn't agree with them.

So yours is the only possible conclusion someone could reach if they actually read the Quran?

Of course not FD, thats not what I said.

Clearly you came to the conclusion that slaughtering infidels is an essential act of Islamic faith. I can't exactly say you didn't come to that conclusion now can I?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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