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Re: Are 'Sudos' welcome?
Reply #300 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration
."




And after what has been going on are you one bit surprised that that is happening?

It's unprecedented uncontrolled Islamic migration .....

and you expect people/countries citizens to sit back & wear it?

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Re: Are 'Sudos' welcome?
Reply #301 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:43pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration
."




And after what has been going on are you one bit surprised that that is happening?

It's unprecedented uncontrolled Islamic migration .....

and you expect people/countries citizens to sit back & wear it?



"perceived"

And no, I'm not surprised that the right-wing extremists are getting more violent and carrying out more terrorist attacks.

Nobody is.
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Reply #302 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:51pm
 
Awww gawd it's over in this thread now as well.

You can't take away from Gregg, as an apologist he is more than usually committed with not much else to do. His flogging his latest uncovering of a peripheral statistic is well into repeats and now spreading across multiple threads. If you can't persuade them, then drown them eh? Easy work when you have nothing better to do with your time, rinse and repeat innit.

He gave away his previous flogging piece when the conflation of graffiti with deadly attacks was too risible for even him to maintain.

Happily for Gregg his ceaseless quest to defend Islamists has found another statistic he can repeat in his Tourettes like manner. As evidenced by his constant misdirection Gregg would prefer you stand on the mounds of bodies and body parts and “hey, look over there”, ignore what's under your feet.

Unhappily for Greggs strenuous efforts most people, most governments, most security apparatus prefer to deal with deadly threats as evidenced by body counts as a priority.

I have no idea why luvvies have so much of a hard on for Islamists, you would think the basic Islamist philosophy to be deeply  inimical to the values that luvvies profess to hold.  But then I have found that luvvies also tend to be deeply hypocritical, it's never the principle, it's the side.
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Re: Are 'Sudos' welcome?
Reply #303 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration
."




And after what has been going on are you one bit surprised that that is happening?

It's unprecedented uncontrolled Islamic migration .....

and you expect people/countries citizens to sit back & wear it?



"perceived"

And no, I'm not surprised that the right-wing extremists are getting more violent and carrying out more terrorist attacks.

Nobody is.


Nice deflection.
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Re: Are 'Sudos' welcome?
Reply #304 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 12:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration
."




And after what has been going on are you one bit surprised that that is happening?

It's unprecedented uncontrolled Islamic migration .....

and you expect people/countries citizens to sit back & wear it?



"perceived"

And no, I'm not surprised that the right-wing extremists are getting more violent and carrying out more terrorist attacks.

Nobody is.


Got some reliable figures on the extremely violent attacks and deaths caused by your 'right wing' people?  Over the period of time prescribed... Guy Fawkes is out of bounds....
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Reply #305 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 4:54pm
 
rhino wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
white Australians are the smallest minority in prison. Whatever the reason for the higher rates of offending amongst our darker skinned residents, it is a fact that it is the case. A problem which is not acknowledged cannot be solved, people like pecca and mothra are adding to the problem by denying it exists.


Who do you consider as white Australians?
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Reply #306 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:13pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:56am:
The way to solve the Black Sudanese gang problem is basically very simple

Identify the offenders and if they are immigrants, send them back, in this case to Sudan

Migrants who want to assimilate into Australia and become good citizens are welcome

But if you are violent there is no place in this Country for you

Boot those offenders out before it becomes a generational thing


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Dawn Fraser said: "Nick Kyrgios and Bernard Tomic  go back to where their fathers or parents came from. We don't need them in this country if they act like that."
Is she your wife?

By the way:
Why don't you assimilate into Australia and become Aboriginal instead closet Pom (British colonial nationalist)?
And why don't you go back to your Britain?
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Reply #307 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:20am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:03am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:50am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration."





yes yes yes   I see that  but you claim MORE  ATTACKS which means   MORE DEATHS>...

as jihadists always manage to kill ...mostly in numbers....

I think thats important... its their intent...you blow a train up or a plane or a bus   you do intend killing more than  one person dont you?

 


I never said more attacks means more deaths.

I said that the majority (84%) of terrorist attacks in Europe, in 2017, were not Jihadist.



jihasist means DEATH greg terrorist means DEATH   they are out to get you...they want you dead...

so you havent got anything on these others you call terrorists... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

every one of the wannabee terrorist in our jails.....was preparing to BLOW UP SOMETHING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IT...

now thats what I call terrorism...the INTENT  is there and its all about DEATH...


in this day and age  Guy Fawkes  would be called a terrorist  not just a traitor...he had the makings of a bombs....


It's not about what you, or I, call terrorism.

It's what the authorities in Europe call terrorism - in this case violent acts involving shootings, bombings, and knife attacks.

And, in Europe in 2017, 84% of terrorist attacks were not Jihadist.

In 2016, the figure was even higher - around 91% (if my maths is right).

There were 142 attacks in 2016, and 13 of those were Jihadist.

Jihadist attacks = 9%

Non-Jihadist attacks = 91%






all I ask pet..

is for details...

you gave me the IRA   how long ago were they in the news???

come on stop evading....

terrorism in todays language means DEATH   usually more than one.....

I can google all that stuff.... tell us about the deaths by these other groups who are not jihadists... Angry Angry

tell us about the trains and buses...and footpath encounters........by these groups....

just sop we know what we are dealing with  84% or 92% means bugger all if we dont know what we are dealing with...

for instance
jihadist attacks   = 9%.. how many died..?

no jihadist attacks = 91%    how many died...?

no more stats thanks

just on those will do...

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Reply #308 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:30pm
 
But if we can readily identify one group who have a propensity for violent attacks against innocent people.

Purely because of their belief in a barbaric, primitive and brutal cult.

We could easily rid ourselves of at least some ofvthem problem by getting rid of the Islam is cult.

Not all cockroaches get into your food
Many simply live on your property and under the house.

But you always go for total eradication, because the ones under the house might move in and cause problems.

Perhaps we could simply get rid of the human cockroaches....Islamist
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Reply #309 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:36pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
But if we can readily identify one group who have a propensity for violent attacks against innocent people.

Purely because of their belief in a barbaric, primitive and brutal cult.

We could easily rid ourselves of at least some ofvthem problem by getting rid of the Islam is cult.

Not all cockroaches get into your food
Many simply live on your property and under the house.

But you always go for total eradication, because the ones under the house might move in and cause problems.

Perhaps we could simply get rid of the human cockroaches....Islamist


Yes, but then we'd still have their tinted eggs.

No, you need to go for total eradication, Matty. Muslims, Jigaboos, Chocolate Cha-chas, the lot.
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Reply #310 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:38pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:20am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:03am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:50am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:10am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:38am:
My argument is that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are not connected to Jihadism.

And, official Europol reports prove that I'm right.

Jihadists are responsible for 16% of all attacks.

The other 84% are not connected to Jihadism.

These are the facts.





can you give examples of non jihadist attacks in Europe greg.....and which group takes credit for them...

84% sounds like a huge number 

I find it hard to keep up   

and we need to point the finger at those responsible   not those we think are responsible.

tell us who these other mad groups are   and why do they also HATE US?....

blowing people up..... is pure HATE.


They're ethno-nationalists and separatists, cods.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Organisations such as the new IRA; Óglaigh na
hÉireann (ONH); the Continuity IRA
(CIRA); and Arm Na Poblachta (ANP), Euskadi ta
Askatasuna (ETA), for example.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."




The report also says:

"The violent right-wing extremist spectrum is
expanding, partly fuelled by fears of a perceived
Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration."





yes yes yes   I see that  but you claim MORE  ATTACKS which means   MORE DEATHS>...

as jihadists always manage to kill ...mostly in numbers....

I think thats important... its their intent...you blow a train up or a plane or a bus   you do intend killing more than  one person dont you?

 


I never said more attacks means more deaths.

I said that the majority (84%) of terrorist attacks in Europe, in 2017, were not Jihadist.



jihasist means DEATH greg terrorist means DEATH   they are out to get you...they want you dead...

so you havent got anything on these others you call terrorists... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

every one of the wannabee terrorist in our jails.....was preparing to BLOW UP SOMETHING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IT...

now thats what I call terrorism...the INTENT  is there and its all about DEATH...


in this day and age  Guy Fawkes  would be called a terrorist  not just a traitor...he had the makings of a bombs....


It's not about what you, or I, call terrorism.

It's what the authorities in Europe call terrorism - in this case violent acts involving shootings, bombings, and knife attacks.

And, in Europe in 2017, 84% of terrorist attacks were not Jihadist.

In 2016, the figure was even higher - around 91% (if my maths is right).

There were 142 attacks in 2016, and 13 of those were Jihadist.

Jihadist attacks = 9%

Non-Jihadist attacks = 91%






all I ask pet..

is for details...

you gave me the IRA   how long ago were they in the news???

come on stop evading....

terrorism in todays language means DEATH   usually more than one.....

I can google all that stuff.... tell us about the deaths by these other groups who are not jihadists... Angry Angry

tell us about the trains and buses...and footpath encounters........by these groups....

just sop we know what we are dealing with  84% or 92% means bugger all if we dont know what we are dealing with...

for instance
jihadist attacks   = 9%.. how many died..?

no jihadist attacks = 91%    how many died...?

no more stats thanks

just on those will do...



It doesn't have to make the news for it to be a terrorist attack.

Northern Ireland had 88 terrorist attacks in 2017, which had nothing to do with Jihadism.

58 were shooting incidents and 30 were bombings.

And, terrorism doesn't mean "death".

It means "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

All the details you're after can be found in the reports.

Once again, here's the link: https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...


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Reply #311 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:38pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 4:54pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
white Australians are the smallest minority in prison. Whatever the reason for the higher rates of offending amongst our darker skinned residents, it is a fact that it is the case. A problem which is not acknowledged cannot be solved, people like pecca and mothra are adding to the problem by denying it exists.


Who do you consider as white Australians?


Oh, that's easy. He's the guy with the shovel and the rope.
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Reply #312 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 6:41pm
 
rhino wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
white Australians are the smallest minority in prison. Whatever the reason for the higher rates of offending amongst our darker skinned residents, it is a fact that it is the case. A problem which is not acknowledged cannot be solved, people like pecca and mothra are adding to the problem by denying it exists.


They get the good lawyers, yeah?

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Reply #313 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 6:51pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:38pm:
capitosinora wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 4:54pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
white Australians are the smallest minority in prison. Whatever the reason for the higher rates of offending amongst our darker skinned residents, it is a fact that it is the case. A problem which is not acknowledged cannot be solved, people like pecca and mothra are adding to the problem by denying it exists.


Who do you consider as white Australians?


Oh, that's easy. He's the guy with the shovel and the rope.



The vote closes in under 2 hours and it's 15 to 7 for the NO case.


When you hang a man you better look at him.
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Reply #314 - Jan 10th, 2019 at 6:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 6:51pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:38pm:
capitosinora wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 4:54pm:
rhino wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
white Australians are the smallest minority in prison. Whatever the reason for the higher rates of offending amongst our darker skinned residents, it is a fact that it is the case. A problem which is not acknowledged cannot be solved, people like pecca and mothra are adding to the problem by denying it exists.


Who do you consider as white Australians?


Oh, that's easy. He's the guy with the shovel and the rope.



The vote closes in under 2 hours and it's 15 to 7 for the NO case.


When you hang a man you better look at him.


You like to see a man well hung, Bobby?

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